Sydney_Iron 12:57 Sat Dec 16
Official Transfer rumours and gossip thread
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The window is open for all clubs in Europe's top five leagues on Monday, January 1st 2024 and closes on Thursday 1 February 2024. In England, the window will close at 11pm (UK time)André Trindade (MF) - Fluminense Jonathan Tah (CB) - Bayer Leverkusen Dan Axel-Zagadou (CB) - Stuttgart Serhou Guirassy (Str) - Stuttgart Akor Adams (Str) - Montpellier Hugo Ekitike (Str) - Paris Saint-Germain Ronnie Edwards (CB) - Peterborough Ian Maatsen (LB/LMF) - Chelsea Kyle Walker-Peters (RB) - Southampton Kalvin Phillips - Man City (Loan) Benrahma Kehrer - Monaco Ings - Southampton Cornet Nayef Aguerd Fornals Kehrer - Monaco (Loan) Krisztián Hegyi - FC Den Bosch(Loan) Gideon Kodua - Wycombe Wanderers (Loan) Conor Coventry - Charlton spacer
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Lee Trundle
6:58 Thu Feb 8
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So we'll only pay £2m on top, based on his performances so far.
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Stubbo
6:38 Thu Feb 8
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According to Ex, the Phillips fee breaks down as:
- 135k per week wages (Until end of June)
- Anywhere between 2m and 4m due on top, subject to performance related bonuses.
So a total cost of between 5 and 7 million.
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Willtell
11:30 Thu Feb 8
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I have no clue as to which one is most accurate but here they are and thank you Mr Moyes for spending that much money on another defensive midfielder...
The Sun
https://www.thesun.co.uk › sport › west-ham-sign-kalvi...
Jan 25, 2024 — Phillips' entire £140,000-a-week wages will be covered by West Ham, who have also paid Manchester City a loan fee to secure the midfielder.
Salary Sport
https://salarysport.com › player › kalvin-phillips
Kalvin Phillips earns £165,000 per week, £8,580,000 per year playing for Manchester City as a DM. Kalvin Phillips's net worth is £23,036,000. Kalvin Phillips is...
Capology.com
https://www.capology.com › club › west-ham › salaries
The Highest Paid Player at West Ham is Kalvin Phillips (Defensive Midfield) with a Gross Annual Salary of £7800000, or £150000 per week. Kalvin Phillips ..
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Russ of the BML
10:47 Thu Feb 8
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The power struggle continues and the team and supporters suffer. Sullivan is to blame for letting this farce happen on his watch.
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El Scorchio
12:14 Thu Feb 8
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Jesus Christ. Well that’s almost half an Osman there then. For a four month rental.
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Willtell
11:58 Wed Feb 7
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I think it was reported at somewhere between £130k and £170k per week Scorch…
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El Scorchio
9:11 Wed Feb 7
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Well, apparently off to Brighton so we'll see. At some point though, Sullivan has to put his belief in the people he's hired to do exactly this stuff rather than cut their nuts of on the say so of one of his dinosaur mates.
And is it much more of a risk or a less sensible use of cash than several other buys we've made in the last few years? I'd argue both Kudus and Alvarez were risks for their price. Ings has cost a fucking fortune for virtually nothing. I dread to think of what the actual outlay on Phillips is going to end up being when May rolls around. 5 million fee along with 100k a week in wages was it? If so or similar that's probably 7 million with literally no ROI unless we win a trophy or make it into the Champions League.
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Sir Alf
9:09 Wed Feb 7
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On the subject of loanees, Downes is having an outstanding season at Southampton. Russell Martin saying he is key to the team who havent lost since Sept? Martin says a lot of his work is unnoticed. Ability to press and intercept. Got to be one of our most successful loans ever for the loanee team?
Shame Moyes didn’t give him more minutes and wanted him sold saying he didnt do enough in his 10 min cameos or when played out of position. Got Phillips now. Late 20s and out of shape. Touche Moyesie ;-)
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Willtell
8:20 Wed Feb 7
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I’m not sure on this one. A 19 year old for €20m when he plays in a small league is an enormous risk.
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El Scorchio
7:15 Wed Feb 7
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Taking that at face value, if Moyes, Noble and Stiedten all wanted Osman and Sullivan disregarded them all in deference to Silkman/someone/himself, then we are lost.
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Willtell
7:10 Wed Feb 7
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I agree with your conclusion on Sullivan Sir Alf but it is interesting as to who has what authority at WHU.
We know that Moyes current contract gives him the final say on players coming in. Steidten is Technical Director and Noble Sporting Director.
I had hoped that this new set up signalled Sullivan's retirement from involvement in football matters. Unfortunately we have to recognise that all Chairmen of companies invariably have the last word on multi-million pound capital expenditures.
On Hammers Chat yesterday they said that they had heard that all of Noble, Steidten and Moyes wanted the lad Osman. Sullivan, prompted by his old mate Silkman stopped it happening. Amateurish at best but embarrassing Sullivan is virtually impossible I'd assume given his record of imprisonment and a doubtful personal life history.
Another Burnley type protest needs to happen imo...
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Nagel
7:06 Wed Feb 7
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Silkman is not Jota's agent. Jota is with Gestifute, the main Portuguese agency, whose clients include all that country's major players: Ronaldo, Silva, Dias, Nunez, etc.
Thing is though, Silkman is one of those wheeler dealers who gets involved with other people's players, acting as intermediary for English clubs getting players in from overseas, so he would have benefitted from any deal he was involved in.
Regarding Osman, the story at the time was that another intermediary agent got involved in the deal and wanted loads of money and the players agent complained to the Danish FA about it, which was why the deal got kiboshed.
So whether it was down to Silkman or this other intermediary, all we know for sure is that an agent was to blame.
I really wish FIFA did something about agents. Players should be able to have their own agent for sponsorship deals, personal appearances, etc. but for anything related to club transfers and contracts it should go through an FA representative who gets no additional fee. He would know the salary of every player in the country and could advise them accordingly of the upper reaches of what they should expect. Other than that it would be down to the player to negotiate himself.
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Sir Alf
6:51 Wed Feb 7
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Its an interesting separate discussion Trundle
Director of Football, also known as a Sporting Director or Technical Director, is a senior executive position within a football club responsible for overseeing the club's football operations, both on and off the field. Thats tge wiki definition
But you are probably put you’re finger on arguably the biggest issue we currently have.
Sullivan has employed an advisor and not empowered him to be more effective? If Sullivan still listens to his crony agents and Moyes on who should be purchased or worse still is still making choices himself its likely to undermine improvements in recruitment and ultimately the success of the football side of his business.
Sounds like Steidten will want more automony and maybe that is why he might jump ship? The press talked about conflict between Steidten and Moyes early on which suggested Steidten was more autonomous and could over rule Moyes. Reality is its a mess. classic Sullivan. Neither one thing or another?
The little man and his fragile ego continues to hold the club back as it always has
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El Scorchio
6:38 Wed Feb 7
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If Silkman tried to leverage Sullivan away from Osman to Jota in order to help his client and his own self interests, Sullivan did it, and then we STILL ended up empty handed, then you'd hope that's an end to their business relationship.
One can dream
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Lee Trundle
6:03 Wed Feb 7
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"Is Steidten a Director of Football or not?"
That an easy one. The answer is NOT. He's employed as a Technical Director .
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Sir Alf
5:59 Wed Feb 7
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Marty, its another mind boggling frustration for me. Is Steidten a Director of Football or not? Because the rumour was Sullivan getting cold feet on the fee after takking to one of his trusted agents Silkman who happened to be Jota’s agent.
Sullivan is 76 but is continuing to be the rotten corpse that holds the door shut on progress ?
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marty feldman
5:40 Wed Feb 7
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Our owners are richer than villas . According to the league table of owners wealth. Which obviously means the square root of fuck all when the one making the decisions is Sullivan.
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El Scorchio
5:25 Wed Feb 7
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In other news, not sure if it's been mentioned but Osman is/will be off to Brighton for 19.5 mill allegedly.
I swear to god if the kid turns out to be a proper player and Sullivan was quibbling over a million or two, while throwing a load of money down the toilet on Phillips at the same time, then that's full insanity. Love to know Stiedten's private point of view on that.
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El Scorchio
5:21 Wed Feb 7
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Sir Alf 1:23
Those numbers in black and white just make it all the more damning on a number of levels as to how stupid our transfer window just was.
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maverick180
3:13 Wed Feb 7
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A profit on transfers is what I’m talking about
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maverick180
3:12 Wed Feb 7
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Hard to know which site is correct
But even if that one is, it’s still considerably behind Villa
Which is not what we was promised
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