Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
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BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide
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orwells tragedy
5:53 Tue Nov 20
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So in your view Kinnock wasn't a Marxist so nor were any of the rest and the roots of the labour party weren't hard left, that proves your point does it?
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Gavros
5:51 Tue Nov 20
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and "my way" was totally undefined.
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Swiss.
5:49 Tue Nov 20
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After 8
"52% of the country went my way "
no they didn't . 52% of those who voted did.
Stop the lying and the spin.
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Hammer and Pickle
5:48 Tue Nov 20
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After8
Your assertion is entirely devoid of content while I have plenty that you are an idiot devoid of an argument.
Now piss off.
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Gavros
5:46 Tue Nov 20
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And to think this all could have been avoided if some weird middle class bloke had learned how to eat a bacon sandwich properly and didnt let on that he had a second kitchen.
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After8
5:45 Tue Nov 20
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Oh dear it's on the vodka again. Told me off for being rude then calls me a nutjob. This is why you can't engage with it.
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Mike Oxsaw
5:45 Tue Nov 20
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Russ of the BML 5:26 Tue Nov 20
The current narrative indicates that "Leaving" is the label being applied to what the government want/have been told to implement.
That flavour of "Leaving" clearly lies at odds with what a significant number of people (most of whom voted to leave) appear to believe it should taste like.
They then have the remain camp telling them not only what it should taste like, but it should also be delivered in puréed/liquefied form so it is "easier" to swallow (for the remainers, that is). And that they'll have to jolly well wait for it, too.
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Hammer and Pickle
5:43 Tue Nov 20
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Brexiter nutjobs of the Commons unite - you have nothing to lose but your credibility (so that shouldn't be a problem now should it).
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After8
5:42 Tue Nov 20
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Yes. That is what I'm saying. Kinnock certainly wasn't a Marxist.
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After8
5:40 Tue Nov 20
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Well capitol if you're saying there's overlap about wanting to leave the EU then I'd say considering 52% of the country went my way and the Conservatives didn't get 52% of the vote at the election, then there's overlap between conservative and labour and conservative and ukip.
Considering too that Labour stood on a manifesto of no freedom of movement and no customs union too then there's massive overlap on the EU as Labour and the Conservatives have an unprecedented mandate in parliament for us to leave and take back control.
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Hammer and Pickle
5:40 Tue Nov 20
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After8
No point in getting all rude and cocky today as you'll be all respectful and polite in front of the security select committee when the time comes.
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orwells tragedy
5:40 Tue Nov 20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWnpbEMMsNw
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orwells tragedy
5:36 Tue Nov 20
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After8 5:28 Tue Nov 20
You're telling me that those leaders (not Benn of course) weren't Marxists or communists?
You give one example of a difference of opinion, Tony Benn was rabidly anti EU as well.
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Capitol Man
5:32 Tue Nov 20
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After8 5:26 Tue Nov 20
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Sure, if you are talking about the extremes of UKIP. But there is a hell of a lot of overlap there particularly on the central issue of the E.U.
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After8
5:32 Tue Nov 20
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Define go
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Gavros
5:29 Tue Nov 20
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Have you had a go at Darren Grimes yet, A8 son?
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After8
5:28 Tue Nov 20
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Orwells I did hence why this isn't that Labour party. For a start, Corbyn hates the EU and thinks it is a free market plot to ruin society.
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Russ of the BML
5:26 Tue Nov 20
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Mike Oxsaw 5:22 Tue Nov 20
Eh?? We're leaving aren't we? That's one big fucking solution right there!!
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After8
5:26 Tue Nov 20
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Capitol no I don't. We had nothing to do with the racist leave.eu campaign and wouldn't deal with them much to their annoyance. Honestly the people running that campaign really were the closet racists fruitcakes and loons Cameron warned people about.
I had the misfortune of two of them coming upto me in a pub. One of them told me how the EU was all a secret communist conspiracy and there was a plan to abolish all national parliaments and the other said if we stay we'd be forced to hand over Trident to them.
Now I'm no fan of the EU but the idea that it's a secret plan for communism in Europe armed with nuclear weapons is very imaginative.
Another time one of them hit on me. I politely said no and they muttered that they would ruin me.
Cranks. The lot of them.
You should have seen their activists on their stands too. Particularly everytime vote leave campaigned, we'd get interrupted by someone from leave.eu wanting to talk to us rather than you know, convince the voters, the people who matter about our arguments.
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orwells tragedy
5:24 Tue Nov 20
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Clearly none of you grew up listening to Wilson, Callaghan, Foot, Benn, or even (on the quiet) Kinnock, no surprise he (and his whole poncing family) is on the EU gravy train.
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Mike Oxsaw
5:22 Tue Nov 20
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For some people, there absolutely HAS to be an "outside influence" when things don't go the way they wanted/expected. The result of the referendum being a point in case.
Occam's Razor would suggest that a lot of people were pissed of about the EU for various reasons. Summing those reasons together is all that was needed to generate a winning majority for the leave party.
Not one single cause, but they all saw the chance of a single solution to address their individual gripe (because absolutely no one else gave a shit).
What's more, all those individual gripes still haven't been addressed - and not enough of them, if any at all, are likely to be addressed by what May is proposing - so, after all this huffing and puffing, UK politics has danced, once again, around the root cause(s) of the issue and failed spectacularly to come up with even a hint of a solution.
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