Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
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BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide
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Nutsin
2:20 Sat Dec 14
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Finally, glad to see the normal people get out to vote for a change.
Any cunt that voted for Corbyn should be sent to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Now get on with getting out of the grasp of the European Union.
I expect the UK will flourish in a few years of having fair and free trade globally. The French and Germans can now squabble with the Italians and leave us the fuck alone.
Well played Boris!
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Nutsin
2:19 Sat Dec 14
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Finally, glad to see the normal people get out to vote for a change.
Any cunt that voted for Corbyn should be sent to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan.
Now get on with getting out of the grasp of the European Union.
I expect the UK will flourish in a few years of having fair and free trade globally. The French and Germans can now squabble with the Italians and leave us the fuck alone.
Well played Boris!
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Mike Oxsaw
10:39 Fri Dec 13
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Guy Gibsons Dog 5:43 Fri Dec 13
Simply by reducing the demand for support & service workers.
An added bonus is that it would free up housing at the 2nd & 3rd time buyer layer in the capital by increasing supply/lowering prices encouraging more to move up and out of what is basically social housing stock - or what remains of it.
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Guy Gibsons Dog
5:43 Fri Dec 13
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Mike Oxsaw 4:58
If companies moved out of London, say to places like Ashford, Basingstoke etc, how would that solve the problems for social workers such as NHS staff, Firemen Police etc.
I was on the tube the other day and there was a Met add on there and there was something like a 3 k travel allowance to come into London. Living in Kent I know that most of the above are constantly advertising down here so where is the benefit of commuting in.
The first "companies" i would look at are charities, most have prime London offices and i really do not see the need for them to be there at all.
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orwells tragedy
5:32 Fri Dec 13
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Get a room....
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Block
5:16 Fri Dec 13
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Don't make me hurt you.
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stewie griffin
5:15 Fri Dec 13
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You elaborated by saying you don't know what they are
Thanks. Really
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Block
5:03 Fri Dec 13
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I elaborated on your throw away comments, as you have no idea about the loopholes you mentioned.
Spaz.
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stewie griffin
5:01 Fri Dec 13
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See my comment about loopholes
Imbecile
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Block
4:59 Fri Dec 13
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Griffin, The developers have found a way around of having a minimal 25% "social housing" within their new builds - particularly flats by having shops beneath them, for some odd reason having shops below the flats means they do not have to have the 25%.
Also, I believe there needs to be over 50 units for this to be incorporated.(I think, can't remember been out the game a while now!)
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Queens Fish Bar
4:59 Fri Dec 13
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Willtell 4:27 Fri Dec 13
Just heard him say it again live in his No10 doorstep speech.
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Mike Oxsaw
4:58 Fri Dec 13
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A lot could be done to relieve the demand on social housing in London by moving workplaces out of the capital.
It won't work for everyone, but it should be possible to assess if each activity a company does really needs to be in or near the City.
Regional offices, coupled with home working can go some way to reduce demand.
If such a strategy is adopted, what must absolutely not happen is new start-ups come in to back-fill the vacated office space created by relocations - even on a temporary basis. In fact, once an office (block) is vacated it's designation should be changed to residential and refurbished as such.
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Side of Ham
4:53 Fri Dec 13
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Yep, call them council starter homes instead of social housing to set the stall out on what the intent is. It may even get some people to have more determination to move on and make private renting or purchasing the proper thing to do.
Something needs to be done about rent charges as well in the private rental market. A percentage of the rent should be a savings scheme to the tenants.
Just more of an effort to make people feel like they are progressing in some way.
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Queens Fish Bar
4:46 Fri Dec 13
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Willtell 4:27 Fri Dec 13
It says it in the Tory manifesto.
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Willtell
4:43 Fri Dec 13
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I agree with Block and Comma on this. In the past the Tories have stopped councils borrowing to build social housing on idealistic grounds which I think is being opened up soon.
However, I believe social housing should be high standard but once people reach a certain income level they have to move on or pay the current market rent, rather than spend their life in a home sponsored by other rate payers...
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stewie griffin
4:40 Fri Dec 13
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Putting - the location with the biggest issue on affordable housing is London. And that is squarely down to the failure of Sadiq Cunt to do what he said he was going to do. He's a soundbyte cunt, and hands down the worst performing politician of any hue.
That aside, I generally agree - there's too many loopholes to get around not building affordable housing, but generally soeaking where i am, there's a % in every new development. So it depends on the moral compass of the developer.
All of that said, the UK housing market is preposterous anyway; the genie is so far out of the bottle that no one will ever be able to put it back, and that's a cross party issue - although one senses it will be used as a political football against whomever happens to be in power at the time. It'll become tedious, like the NHS debate
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riosleftsock
4:38 Fri Dec 13
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Block
There's no reason why small building firms couldn't build houses again, or even for councils to use some directly employed labour to carry out the second fix and just use a large firm to do the first fix or build the foundations.
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Block
4:35 Fri Dec 13
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Comma, who are the council going to appoint as the builders to build these properties? They're not just going to hire a bunch of builders and given them plans to work off and build a 100 homes ffs.
They will appoint large building firms, who will want to make profits on anything they are appointed on.
* face palms *
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Block
4:33 Fri Dec 13
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Will, which is why building social housing now days is so difficult, I did mention this also.
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4:32 Fri Dec 13
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The possible solution to the housing shortage is to encourage/allow councils to build again.
When the local borough builds it does so for a completely different reason than does a developer. The council too will build to a better standard and to full modern specification.
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riosleftsock
4:31 Fri Dec 13
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We have (as Willtell says) imported millions of people into our country without consulting the electorate.
However worthy or needy these people are, they compete with the poorest people in society for essential services such as housing, education, healthcare and welfare.
You can have non-contributory social benefits or you can have open-door immigration. You can not have both.
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