Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
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BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide
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Mike Oxsaw
8:25 Sat Apr 20
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Simply re-brand the terrorist group as a violently oppressed minority and convince enough snowflakes to identify with them.
That will then make all the tortures, extortion and murders justifiably acceptable, actually. OK? Yah!
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Hammer and Pickle
7:20 Sat Apr 20
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"Surely if a terrorist group are opposed to a "hard border" then that's just about the best argument in favour of one?"
Absolute nonsense that completely fails to address the real issues and calls for totally wrong policy moves. Couldn't ask for a better example of vulnerability to reflexive control.
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mashed in maryland
6:57 Sat Apr 20
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Surely if a terrorist group are opposed to a "hard border" then that's just about the best argument in favour of one?
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Mike Oxsaw
6:52 Sat Apr 20
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I suspect some of the players in this scenario don't actually want a solution and the avoidable deaths of a few people they don't know and are never likely to meet is a price they're quite prepared to pay to get their way.
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mashed in maryland
6:42 Sat Apr 20
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How did we go from having the biggest empire in human history to being scared of building a fence on our own land in case it irks a load of inbreds in another country who smear shit over their walls and starve themselves to death to get attention?
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Darby_
4:33 Sat Apr 20
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I’m only talking about a hard border in Ireland, Mashed. Not Brexit.
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Darby_
4:28 Sat Apr 20
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Surfy, I supported Brexit as I’ve said a million times before on this thread. I’d just like people, both bitter Remoaners and petulant Brexiteer hardliners to start acting like adults.
Not much chance of that, though, I admit.
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arsegrapes
2:12 Sat Apr 20
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https://www.pscp.tv/w/1nAJEzvonPyxL
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,
12:53 Sat Apr 20
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Which service man has been sacrificed?
I was unaware a trial had taken place and a guilty verdict returned.
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mashed in maryland
12:44 Sat Apr 20
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Cancel Brexit cos the IRA are against it.
Mind you, with our government currently enjoying sacrificing former servicemen to them that's probably not that unrealistic.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:36 Sat Apr 20
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Darby
I see, so the responsibility for IRA murders is that of people who want to leave the EU, not the IRA killers.
What a miserable cowardly attitude to take. Perhaps if they kick off we should just invite the IRA over to run our whole government?
And just to be clear, it was Remainers like you who I accused of being opportunistic.
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Darby_
12:17 Sat Apr 20
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Being responsible means that you take responsibility for risking sending British kids back to a brutal war zone. Not skirting responsibility by shifting it off to an ‘opportunistic’ IRA.
Even if it’s true that they’re opportunistic, you’re the one creating the opportunity for them to exploit in the first place.
And for what exactly?
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Mike Oxsaw
9:58 Sat Apr 20
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What's wrong with simply having the option to keep duties synchronised, rather than a mandatory obligation?
Who can't be trusted to not do so?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
9:58 Sat Apr 20
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Darby_ 5:27 Sat Apr 20
'No responsible conservative is going to risk a return to the Troubles over what is, despite the hype and melodrama, a fairly minor issue like Brexit.'
Yes, we should definitely delegate responsibility for deciding our foreign and economic policy to the IRA and there is nothing opportunistic whatsoever in Remainers making this case.
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Gavros
9:54 Sat Apr 20
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If you have a customs union, which is near enough what hhe backstop is, then you dont have any tariffs
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Mike Oxsaw
9:07 Sat Apr 20
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So, this backstop then. A (customs) border in all but name.
Is there a definitive list around about what duties need to be levied on goods and services travelling in either direction? More specifically what the differences in duties are?
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normannomates
5:38 Sat Apr 20
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Do me a favour.
All Catholic bods should fuck off over the border and live in utopia..or shut the fuck up and invade and rid NI of all prods.
I FUCKIN HATE THE IRISH
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Darby_
5:27 Sat Apr 20
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Sad to see a 29 year old journalist, Lyra McKee, shot dead in Northern Ireland. It goes to show that stuff like this is still bubbling under the surface. No responsible conservative is going to risk a return to the Troubles over what is, despite the hype and melodrama, a fairly minor issue like Brexit.
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Mike Oxsaw
5:50 Fri Apr 19
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There is no single over-riding issue that led to the referendum leave result, but remainers seem to focus on the one(s) that only require the mildest of (mis)interpretation to take on a racist leaning.
WHY should the UK "take one for the EU team" simply to give (the EU) the impression that life in Europe is peaceful, homogeneous and satisfactory?
The EU is a dinosaur, born of the fifties, with a mindset of the fifties and belongs in the fifties.
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Hammer and Pickle
5:26 Fri Apr 19
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You mean the likes of NF, BJ and JRM wouldn’t have found traction with their knucklehead electorate by reflecting back the crap they believe about the EU?
I doubt it.
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Gavros
5:21 Fri Apr 19
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Most ejropean countries apply the rules of EU directive 2004 (38) which require you have to be working or have sufficient resources to look after yourself after 90 days in another EU country and access any benefits (the latter only ig you work - those that dont have ro cover themselves privately). If it wee applied in the UK i doubt the EU issue would ever have been one in the first place.
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