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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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threesixty 7:11 Tue Mar 19
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Willtell

Mate stop frothing at the mouth and shit.,,
People have been arguing over this for nearly 3 yrs and you think it’s simple?

As for the semantics. The government have a responsibility to all 66 million people in the uk. Not just the 17.4m who voted.

They may have been given a (broad) direction in what to do but they don’t know how to do it responsibly. And the mandate is to serve ALL the citizens in the UK. Including the minority groups, whether they be the Irish,the Scottish or the English.

Do you think they have been trying to thrash out a deal for the fun of it? Obviously we can just walk away but that creates several problems for which we have no answer on how to deal with.

So the whole scenario, leaving and making sure the aftermath of leaving is ok for all 66m people is not “simple” at all.

That’s why what you have said is meaningless in reality. But you know that and your just on a wind up obviously..

Willtell 6:54 Tue Mar 19
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cheeses cruyf 6:21
Yes I did as well too. Remain or the status quo is the easy choice. Except that's clearly not on offer and Schengen, the Euro, Taxes and EU army are all coming soon...

New Jersey 6:48 Tue Mar 19
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No Ray, I tend to be more objective and don't piss myself when we lose to Cardiff etc.

Didn't think the post was knicker wetting material, if Corbyn wins a GE he will certainly be more pro Sinn Fein than he will the DUP, given his record that is undisputable. The DUP have extracted a lot from May's government which would be put at risk under a labour administration, who actually wouldn't be too adverse for a united Ireland!

ray winstone 6:40 Tue Mar 19
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NJ, do you write knicker wetting posts like that when we lose too?

New Jersey 6:37 Tue Mar 19
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The DUP need to be careful with what they wish for, if Comrade Corbyn wins a GE after this shambles ( the Tories will come out of it far worse than labour), he will jump into bed with the IRA quicker than you can say Enniskillen, Warrington or whatever and Arlene and her mates will be fucked good and proper by Corbyn.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 6:36 Tue Mar 19
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I also find Paddy Power alienating a majority of their customers very funny.

Pub Bigot 6:36 Tue Mar 19
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Sounds hilarious, Hairy. Must be of the same school of comedy as you.

HairyHammer 6:33 Tue Mar 19
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I just saw the paddy power advert with Eric Cantona in it best advert I have ever seen it takes the piss out of Brexit brilliantly .


The best joke in the advert was 'Brexit is a bit like Boris Johnsons hair, he is the only one who thinks it is not a complete disaster'..

cheeses cruyf 6:21 Tue Mar 19
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Willtell l posted that yesterday and got no response

Willtell 6:08 Tue Mar 19
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Anyone wanting to remain in the EU needs to look at this clip of Guy Verhofstadt talking about the USofE...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1107718377336909826

Mike Oxsaw 5:58 Tue Mar 19
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Willtell 5:47 Tue Mar 19

Roundman and his ilk are still (albeit secretly) still holding out for a Brexit cancellation, the EU army. EU tax collection, EU laws and the UK ceasing to exist other than an historical label within the Federation of Europe.

Oh, and enforces Schengen and the Euro. Treaties never lie.

Sir Alf 5:57 Tue Mar 19
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Democracy being undermined. Civil unrest being risked potentially?
The old line about the establishment and politicians, corporations and their rich owners being part of a big club , we ain't part of... Never been so true.

Whatever your view on Brexit, what is happening now is far more serious and the biggest constitutional crisis in decades if not centuries. Partly the result of a narcissistic , entitled culture that has been nurtured by neo liberal brand of capitalism ( aka the Americanisation of our culture ) but also the mass media / internet age.

History will not look kind onall this is my thinking. The only upside might be civil unrest and a soft revolution to cleanse ourselves of the current crop of career politicians. A change to FPTP voting system too if someone harnesses the backlash that will ensue. Farage looks like the most likely to gain votes for his Brexit party too.

Shame on them all.

Sir Alf 5:57 Tue Mar 19
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Democracy being undermined. Civil unrest being risked potentially?
The old line about the establishment and politicians, corporations and their rich owners being part of a big club , we ain't part of... Never been so true.

Whatever your view on Brexit, what is happening now is far more serious and the biggest constitutional crisis in decades if not centuries. Partly the result of a narcissistic , entitled culture that has been nurtured by neo liberal brand of capitalism ( aka the Americanisation of our culture ) but also the mass media / internet age.

History will not look kind onall this is my thinking. The only upside might be civil unrest and a soft revolution to cleanse ourselves of the current crop of career politicians. A change to FPTP voting system too if someone harnesses the backlash that will ensue. Farage looks like the most likely to gain votes for his Brexit party too.

Shame on them all.

Willtell 5:47 Tue Mar 19
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threesixty 2:02

I think you'e either as thick as shit or in a wind-up. No-one can be that stupidly wrong about everything!

Leaving the EU is simple. It's reaching a deal that is complicated. That is not SEMANTICS. That's factual!

17.4million British people voted to leave the EU BEFORE anyone had ever heard the term SOFT BREXIT.

Mrs May is a fucking screw-up of a PM that should not be in power. She is NOT representative of the 17.4m that voted to leave the only way they knew - the hard way.

You can argue until you're blue in the face but saying that Mrs May did something that means leavers are somehow the ones in the wrong is laughable. Mrs May is a remainer trying to deliver something that wasn't asked for by leavers. End of story!

Mike Oxsaw 5:46 Tue Mar 19
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Fo the Communist 5:39 Tue Mar 19

No arguments there - but that's just politicspeak for "Go fucking swivel for your money". Especially as it comes linked with the guilt-laden association to "development aid".

Fo the Communist 5:39 Tue Mar 19
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Mike.
The Daily Mail - as will any newspaper - write a story to delectate its readership.

But even its own narrative states the following;

"Merkel said today that 'we will continue our effort' in terms of raising defence spending,,,"

Mike Oxsaw 5:29 Tue Mar 19
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Fo,

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6826601/Germany-says-abandon-NATO-spending-commitments.html

Ah, OK. Daily Mail. I take it all back.

Fo the Communist 5:24 Tue Mar 19
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Mike
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but they are actually increasing their defence spend albeit it still not meeting the NATO target.

https://www.publicfinanceinternational.org/news/2019/03/germany-increases-spending-will-not-hit-nato-defence-target

Mike Oxsaw 5:13 Tue Mar 19
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I see the Krauts are now looking to reduce their spending on NATO - clearly preparing to start funding the EU army.

How'd's it go again, remainers? Fingers in the ears and "La-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-LA!" Is that it?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 4:46 Tue Mar 19
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And of course, law is all about process, not outcome.

Mike Oxsaw 4:42 Tue Mar 19
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Law is only good if, and only if, it agrees with MY opinion.

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