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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Westham67 2:13 Thu Dec 13
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Its futile her persisting with a deal that is certain to get voted down

BRANDED 12:12 Thu Dec 13
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Ok. That all helped.

Hammer and Pickle 12:08 Thu Dec 13
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I'm afraid you're not exactly getting the point about ministerial responsibility, Riddle.

Or responsibility as a voter in the Brexit referendum either.

J.Riddle 12:02 Thu Dec 13
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I'm not going to lie, I probably would have voted differently if I was on the ministerial payroll, pension plan, private medical/dental insurance cover, ministerial car\\driver, Parlimentary canteen, lunches, brunches, dinners, expenses, allowances and voluminous other perks, pending peerages and knighthoods....

The Kronic 11:59 Wed Dec 12
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Remainers gathering around a complete fucking nutter like May.

Brilliant.

, 11:54 Wed Dec 12
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Back bench MPs especially long term back benchers are so for a purpose and it is more to do with not being up for the job than being than being victimised etc.

So lets look out for JRM changing the no confidence system such that no MP on a PM's payroll is allowed to vote.

Boy those grapes must be sour for Lord Snooty.

Hammer and Pickle 11:53 Wed Dec 12
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I wonder what the Brexit referendum vote would have looked like if voters had ministerial responsibility.

The Kronic 11:50 Wed Dec 12
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Yep.
Check out the MEASLY number of Tory MPs who voted for her and aren't on the payroll.

J.Riddle 11:50 Wed Dec 12
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The vote of no confidence in May wasn't cross party or conclusive, and I don't think many MP's knew what they were voting for, the rest of Parliament were excluded unfairly.

The only way to decide this once and for all is to have a "Lawmakers Vote" to include the Labour Party and all others. Once this takes place I think everyone will accept the outcome once they've had time to think.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:48 Wed Dec 12
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JRM's point is that about 140 Tory MPs are May's payroll vote. That is to say, that they are in the cabinet, are junior ministers or PPSs. Two thirds of the back-benches have no confidence in her.

twoleftfeet 11:43 Wed Dec 12
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I’m amazed how much Sky are focusing on the 117 who voted against her, what about the 200 who voted for her?

It’s as though Sky want her out.

Hammer and Pickle 11:35 Wed Dec 12
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33% against is enough to get rid of a PM but 48% against is not enough to stop the UK's external and internal relations being turned into a jelly.

Doesn't wash really.

, 11:31 Wed Dec 12
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The point about what JRM has said is that whilst you can ignore 48% of the electorate you have to take account of 33% of Tory MPs when they vote no confidence in their PM.

Very mealy mouthed comment by this devout Catholic flaunting his demob suit chic apparel.

Hammer and Pickle 11:27 Wed Dec 12
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Spandex is bang-on

The response to the Brexit referendum has been to set the legitemacy-level so low that this is a triumph for May and a bitch-slap for Mogg.

Nurse Ratched 11:26 Wed Dec 12
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He said the vote should be overturned?

zebthecat 11:26 Wed Dec 12
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She said she wouldn't stand 2002 After8.
If the ERG force a general election that wipes out the Conservatives it is all down to them.

The Kronic 11:25 Wed Dec 12
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He's not wrong. She's a PM of a minority government (of her making) who has just been informed that 117 of her own MPs don't want her to carry on leading them

, 11:24 Wed Dec 12
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I absolutely see the point spandex is making.

Crassus 11:24 Wed Dec 12
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Spandex

You are not grasping the point
The referendum was a binary vote, by the people

The representatives of those very same tonight voted not upon the basis of their being there, to express the views of those who put them there, but to sustian their being there

Big difference

zebthecat 11:23 Wed Dec 12
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Jacob Rees-Mogg did Nurse. He said that May should go and visit the Queen and resign.

After8 11:23 Wed Dec 12
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Very disappointed. I don't trust her promises. The issue will be when she loses the house vote which she will now. Any general election that happens shes said she wont stand. I bet she'll find a way to weasel out though and then led us to a crashing defeat.

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