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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Mike Oxsaw 10:05 Sat Nov 17
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Does this 558 page tome on the UK departing from the EU end with the words "...and they all left happily ever after"?

That IS the aim, is it not? That IS what the government agreed to deliver.

Gavros 3:05 Sat Nov 17
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Yeah they're looking for changes to the non binding political declaration on the future deal ie the actual deal which helps to shape the future relationship. The EU will be fine with that as it's just aspiring. Gove himself is actually now advocating EEA s9 it might actually he more 'remainer' than what's written in.

The withdrawal agreement, which is the 585 page document, is now cast.

arsegrapes 2:31 Sat Nov 17
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Express quoting BBC saying May given an ultimatum by five Cabinet Ministers, who are threatening to resign within two weeks unless Theresa May makes three changes to EU deal. Michael Gove, Andrea Leadsom, Chris Grayling, Penny Mordaunt and Liam Fox.

Hammer and Pickle 1:11 Sat Nov 17
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High turnouts never favour cranks and demagogues.

master 1:08 Sat Nov 17
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Speaking of costs and benefits, i guess there will be quite a few at the next elections in the UK. At the very best we should hope that the turn out being very low is the only consequence. The other potential consequences would be very worrying.

Hammer and Pickle 12:55 Sat Nov 17
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article 7 is about getting the Polish government to abide by its own constitution despite its desire to fuck up the legal system so the party supporting it can rule in all perpetuity.

If you understand that, post "Yes" and fuck off to bed, Johnson.

Hammer and Pickle 12:53 Sat Nov 17
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Stop it CM - being clear about the costs and benefits of no-deal Brexit is Project Fear.

Johnson 12:51 Sat Nov 17
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What’s article 7 all about then?

Capitol Man 12:50 Sat Nov 17
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master 12:41 Sat Nov 17
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The U.K. can and would have been able to leave whenever we wanted. It just comes at a price. They needed to be clear about the costs and benefits- not pushed the idea that there was this buffet option of picking and choosing the elements that applied.

Hammer and Pickle 12:48 Sat Nov 17
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What are Poland out of interest though?

Hammer and Pickle 12:47 Sat Nov 17
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Very well indeed.

Johnson 12:46 Sat Nov 17
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How are Poland getting on in this regard, Thickle?

Hammer and Pickle 12:45 Sat Nov 17
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The relationship between the members that make up the EU and the EU itself is clearly not one of servility to the EU.

I really do not see the problem.

master 12:41 Sat Nov 17
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So entwined that we can never leave, basically trapped. That's a GOOD thing. Definitely.

Hammer and Pickle 12:41 Sat Nov 17
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The downtrodden tend to have a problem with cake and identity, having been the cake consumed for so long and confusing freedom with eating cake.

Side of Ham 12:40 Sat Nov 17
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It was a decent enough reason to give an UNPREDICTED result, they should have considered the request, looked into the angst that was forming and EVEN given advice on how to appease this issue. Instead, fuck all, that's not a union that's a dictatorship saying tough shit the UK shouldn't have signed up if you wanted to compromise on a major issue affecting your country's citizens.

Everyone who's patronisingly preaching about what will happen by leaving has not even considered why it happened in the first place.

This is probably the very first time the majority of voters have actually said enough is enough in our entire dealings with the EU i'd say we've been pretty well complient, so even by that token the EU should have at least taken a look at the problem occuring here even if they still said no. A union needs to consider their members internal problems when a member is willing to go to a referendum to leave, show some concern, look like they are trying to keep us in the Union.

Capitol Man 12:37 Sat Nov 17
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There was never a chance of having the cake and eating it. That was the reality all along. It’s not because things were negotiated badly. It’s because it was never a possibility.

Hammer and Pickle 12:25 Sat Nov 17
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What I find interesting is how the most downtrodden elements of the British Empire who have found their way to the British Isles and have become full British citizens, tend to be the most blinkered Brexiters.

It's absolutely fascinating.

Capitol Man 12:19 Sat Nov 17
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Side of Ham 12:05 Sat Nov 17
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And that’s a decent-enough reason for wanting a change. But was it ever likely to happen and what were the consequences if the EU didn’t create a carve out for the U.K.?

And I don;t blame them for not giving the U.K. what it wanted on that. The whole shit show comes apart if everyone gets their own set of rules.

Their just seems to have been this continued belief, that’s still there, that they will have to bend to our will if we stomp our feet hard enough.

Hammer and Pickle 12:18 Sat Nov 17
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"daft old bastard" used to be a term of endearment...

Gavros 12:15 Sat Nov 17
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Busy tonight, Hamed you daft old bastard.

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