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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Capitol Man 3:36 Tue Jul 23
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Come on mike. Enough with the bullshit. Three years and still no plan. It’s the charge of the light brigade isn’t it.

You need to stop blaming everyone who pointed out that there was no fucking plan and actually say what is it.

Are you really pretending all that’s needed to turn around a century of relative manufacturing decline is some trade deals.

What industries are we suddenly going to become competitive in.

Financial services is basically all we are world class at at any scale. And we are giving up our place as the traditional financial services center of the worlds biggest market.

So the future is....... the worlds oligarchs socking away their ill-gotten gains in a lightly regulated UK? Tax haven?

Mike Oxsaw 3:31 Tue Jul 23
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Capitol Man 3:19 Tue Jul 23

I suspect you'll find that it's the presence of NATO, and not the EU administration that has kept the Russian bear at bay.

An "EU army" would stand NO chance of doing so.

Mike Oxsaw 3:28 Tue Jul 23
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OK, given that we can't legally make a trade deal until we leave, the UK administration has had 36 months to come up with this "plan".

35 months, 3 weeks 6 days and 15 hours of those 36 months have been taken up explaining common sense things to remainers.

Had they got behind the majority and brought their "superior intelligence" forward to address the problem, no doubt a solution would already have been found.

Instead, they have used all of this "superior intelligence" to thwart and frustrate the process, simply because THEY didn't get what they wanted - and FUCK everybody else.

Oh, wait! remainers are in the minority. That means they must be an oppressed mass completely worthy of the respect, air time and column inches they wish to deny the majority.

Capitol Man 3:21 Tue Jul 23
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Jaan Kenbrovin 3:08 Tue Jul 23
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Run along and go see if you can find something to c&p in response.

Capitol Man 3:19 Tue Jul 23
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Jaan Kenbrovin 3:08 Tue Jul 23
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Well, that wasn't my point, that was Gavros’, but still.

For me the world is dissolving into spheres of influence. It;s the line push by Putin in his campaign for trump, and being pushed by trump with the dissolution of the infrastructure that has put the west at the top of the pile.

The reason Russia worked so hard to get Trump elected and for Brexit is that it is weak in comparison to a unified EU. Against any single European nation Putin can use military force and bully his way to control. Against a unified Europe he is essentially powerless.

Against a united eu he is a small player between Europe and China, his Eurasian union has nothing to compete.

Then you can bring European history into play. A breakup of the EU and a rise in nationalism could easily see a return to the conflicts that litter European history.

You’d have to be a fucking moron not to see the risks.

Oh.

Capitol Man 3:13 Tue Jul 23
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Mike Oxsaw 3:05 Tue Jul 23
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No, I want there to be a coherent plan.

People like wee willie bullshit and his it’ll Turn out nice again crap don’t seem to be able come up with one.

Though Norman Wisdom is his generation if he ran his “business empire” making decisions with no plan in place for the future he wouldn’t have his “massive French estate” to see out his twilight years.

Jaan Kenbrovin 3:08 Tue Jul 23
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Capitol Man 2:55 Tue Jul 23

Ok, I'll tell you what I think will happen once you explain in full why you think the dissolution of the EU will cause a second dark age.

Go on...

Mike Oxsaw 3:05 Tue Jul 23
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Capitol Man 2:53 Tue Jul 23

You post as if you believe that leaving with no deal on the day of exit means that there will never be a deal after that exit. Is that correct?

Willtell 3:01 Tue Jul 23
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It’ll look like normality Mong...

Capitol Man 2:55 Tue Jul 23
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Jaan Kenbrovin 2:47 Tue Jul 23
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So tell it how it will look then Nostradamus. What will Brexit look like?

Capitol Man 2:53 Tue Jul 23
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Nutsin 2:43 Tue Jul 23
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Still fat lazy and stupid then Nonuts, you’re probably hoping for a garage dictatorship so you can grasp you ankles on both sides of the Atlantic.

If scum like you agreed with me then there’d be something seriously wrong.

Is there any fucking plan for Brexit yet?

That’s the problem. You ask people how it will look at you get some pie in the sky bullshit about it being the promised land of free trade with the globe.

Where is the actual fucking plan? Farage and Johnson have had three years to tell us how it will look and all they seem to have come up with is lies about cash for the NHS and waving a pack of kippers above his head.

Jaan Kenbrovin 2:47 Tue Jul 23
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The dissolution of the EU could cause a second dark age.

- Gavrostradamus (expert economist)

Nutsin 2:43 Tue Jul 23
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Sorry Mong, my insight is nowhere near as dramatic as yours or Gav’s.
So I’ll think I’ll let you drama queens continue with your idiotic scaremongering. So far we’ve had

The economy and the stock market will crash if Trump becomes President.
Trump is in bed with Putin and will be impeached.
The UK economy will collapse if the Brexit vote wins.
Now we will go back to the Dark ages if we get a hard Brexit....

Ffs! You really are a special kind of cunt Cap Mong!

Capitol Man 2:34 Tue Jul 23
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We’d rather hear your deep insight NoNuts.

What does the oracle that is the orange sphincter tell you to think?

Nutsin 2:32 Tue Jul 23
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Gav,
Hard Brexit = Dark Ages?

Fuck me that sounds pretty bad, I might have to reconsider my position.

Nutsin 2:27 Tue Jul 23
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Yeah Gav, please tell us how bad it’s gonna get would you?
Your insight in such matters really is impressive.

Gavros 2:27 Tue Jul 23
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The fall of the Roman empire, for one.

You know, the thing that brought in the Dark Ages, and the eventual attack by Islam on the Iberian peninsular, that lasted 800 years, and the fall of the Byzantine empire?

Johnson 2:20 Tue Jul 23
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Really Gavvy, give us a timeline that saw the implosion of a united, almost federal Europe and the events that directly contributed to whatever you think this bad thing is.

The price of tofu or something going up presumably

Bernie 2:20 Tue Jul 23
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White Pony 12:59 Tue Jul 23

The best thing that's been written on this abortion of a thread

Gavros 2:05 Tue Jul 23
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the last time that Europe imploded or exploded, bad things happened, believe or or not.

Wishing for it is fucking stupid.

Jaan Kenbrovin 2:02 Tue Jul 23
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LOL

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