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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Mike Oxsaw 10:36 Tue Nov 12
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The more mature and responsible of the two sides will be the first to back down for the sake of the country.

The other side will then crow from the rooftops about "how they won" and "common sense prevailed" - they didn't and it most certainly didn't.

J.Riddle 10:10 Tue Nov 12
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Can’t wait for all this Brexit shit to be over tbf, and all these Politicians that we had never heard of before that have become celebrities that has gone to their heads compared with being unknown before will sink back into obscurity.

Same with all the masses of media political experts many who have also become celebrities of sort. What will they do with their time when this massive shit storm passes? Then there are all the lawyers who have made a killing out of it.

Ok I know it will carry on until end of 2020 due to the transition period but it will be massively scaled down to what it has been for FOUR years.

Side of Ham 9:55 Tue Nov 12
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The UK government(s) have quite clearly used the EU as a damage limitation exercise on numerous occasions like this where really any UK government in the last 25 years should sort this kind of shit out like flooding due to either houses being built on flood plains or lack of defences due to things like dredging etc.

By leaving the EU we have removed a massive layer of 'EU directive' protection from actually sorting UK issues, the UK public can now go direct to it's organ grinder.

It's not always to do with the EU being wrong or indeed against us but more to do with our own leaderships being weak and hiding behind layers of bureaucracy issued with good intent by the EU but used over here as an excuse not to do what is right.

Hammer and Pickle 9:53 Tue Nov 12
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Fascinating material, but have you got any kind of evidence there is any ban on dredging in the EU?

Mike the Hammer 9:49 Tue Nov 12
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H&P,
A huge amount of floods throughout Europe since 2000, a massive increase in comparison to the times before the EU Directive.
Just a coincidence?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_floods_in_Europe

Hammer and Pickle 9:40 Tue Nov 12
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Yeah, and?

Mike Oxsaw 9:38 Tue Nov 12
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Equally, YOU have been unable to present any case (except in your own mind) that membership of the EU benefits resident UK taxpayers.

Mike the Hammer 9:37 Tue Nov 12
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H&P,

http://floodlist.com/europe

Hammer and Pickle 9:29 Tue Nov 12
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So you can't present any case, whether formal or material, that the EU has prevented the UK to dredge rivers to prevent flooding.

Glad we've sorted that one out.

Mike the Hammer 9:26 Tue Nov 12
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H&P,
You're convinced of nothing except your own beliefs. I offered a different opinion. Therefore you will never agree with it regardless.

Hammer and Pickle 9:03 Tue Nov 12
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So is the EU lying or not?

You're free to demonstrate it is.

I'm here to be convinced on the merit of the case you present.

Mike the Hammer 8:32 Tue Nov 12
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H&P,

The EU commenting on EU laws. No conflict of interest there then.

Mike Oxsaw 8:20 Tue Nov 12
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The EU will always be a bucket of cunt, whoever spins it and however it's spun.

Hammer and Pickle 8:15 Tue Nov 12
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However the EU has said this:

Dredging

The EU’s Water Framework Directive has been the piece of EU legislation most criticised by certain media, on the basis that it “bans dredging”.

But that is incorrect – the Directive does not ban dredging.

Whether to dredge is a decision for Member States based on the local situation. The UK Environment Agency was widely reported as saying – in one case in the very same Daily Mail article alleging that the practice was “banned by Brussels” – that it had spent £21m on dredging over the last two years.

There have also been suggestions that the Waste Framework Directive forbids dredged sediment being spread elsewhere. Again, this is not true, unless the sediment is hazardous, for example if it contains heavy metals or other toxic substances. If so, it obviously needs to treated as what it is – hazardous waste. Otherwise, land and rivers would be poisoned, wildlife would die and human health could be endangered.

The expert consensus is that dredging is sometimes an effective measure. But sometimes it can make flooding and/or the damage it does worse. This depends on a whole series of circumstances, both natural and linked to the built environment.

https://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/suggesting-that-the-eu-is-to-blame-for-floods-is-completely-without-foundation/

Cabbage Savage 8:14 Tue Nov 12
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Hammer and Pickle 8:10 Tue Nov 12

but you remeber when in summer we go to tickle carp in river near village and you get neck caut in shopping trolly and you start screaming?

mashed in maryland 8:11 Tue Nov 12
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threesixty 1:51 Tue Nov 12

Food banks are a sign of a wealthy and generous nation.

It's regular people having enough food to be able to give away and then choosing to do so.

A sign of real hardship and greed would be no food banks.

Hammer and Pickle 8:10 Tue Nov 12
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"The directive from the EU we took on as law in 2000 which pretty much means no dredging can take place in rivers."

Please point us to the relevant articles in the directive because for some reason it doesn't seem to have prevented any other EU member from keeping their rivers properly maintained.

New Jersey 7:21 Tue Nov 12
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Fuck me, it's the EU that have caused the flooding, not Boris, take it back Swinson!!

Mike the Hammer 7:15 Tue Nov 12
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H & P,

The directive from the EU we took on as law in 2000 which pretty much means no dredging can take place in rivers. Hence detriment in rivers that used to be removed, would mean in times of heavy rain and subsequent high river levels flooding would occur much less frequently. No dredging means higher water levels, so increased rainfall leads to flooding.

Ridikzappa 7:12 Tue Nov 12
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Labour go canvassing 😂

https://youtu.be/fh8xgaVTKss

Side of Ham 6:58 Tue Nov 12
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I posted this Kunt......

Side of Ham 5:17 Fri Nov 8

Yep it just shows what a sorry state Labour must be in under Corbyn to go to the opposition. As the easy route is to go anywhere else surely?

You’re not trying to say this bloke has always been a Tory are you Chill? as that would be stupid. A long term opposition sleeper cell in a party political party? Hahahaha!


.....you responded with this.....

ChillTheKeel 5:20 Fri Nov 8

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. His voting record alone reeks of it.
But it's all a bit confusing to you isn't it, hence why all you can muster on this thread is the same coma-inducing rant, word for word, every fucking day.

You KUNT think there's a Tory sleeper cell........

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! etc! etc!

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