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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Crassus 12:09 Fri Apr 19
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Macron would clearly not like Brits, fucking Brexit Brits, in 'his' France, rather a few more of Merkel's types

In my experience, the French, would rather Brits, but Will would know better

Eitherway, heyho, the cunt has now lost my personal contribution to his failing economy at Easter and now summer, so about E12k behind on that, and of course, a now ban on French wine and foodstuffs domestically, every time I pick New World I smile and see the granny shaggers face

You should all do the same, the fucking flapping mails I am getting from French residential sites is grist to the mill, I am clearly not alone

Willtell 10:24 Thu Apr 18
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Yes it's terrible here in France. Much better weather, empty roads, cheaper property, cheaper living costs and unfortunately full of French but hey ho. Spain next....

master 9:20 Thu Apr 18
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"For four years we fought to get a European Border & Coast Guard. EU countries were blocking, but we managed to get it done: 10000 extra border officers. We should not wait for 2027, but do it now! We need to better protect our external borders to keep our internal EU borders open"

RM10 9:04 Thu Apr 18
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I hope the people who moved to France stay out there as those I have met all seem to be Pratt’s, just my view

lab 8:54 Thu Apr 18
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Bollocks , I swore I'd never post on this thread . But moving to France ffs.

lab 8:52 Thu Apr 18
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You moved to France ? no sympathy here.

Willtell 8:50 Thu Apr 18
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Yes that tale has circulated the expats here in France. Makes me laugh because people expect to be accepted in France and on their social schemes without income. It's the same in U.K. and all EU. except there's too many liberals that kick up a fuss so government is not prepared to look too close. The frogs aren't so squeamish

Dwight Van Mann 8:38 Thu Apr 18
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J.Riddle 8:31 Thu Apr 18


"Between us we need to prove that we have €1175.00 per month to live on."

can't see what the problem is

J.Riddle 8:31 Thu Apr 18
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French getting tough with British expats

Thanks to Brexit, I've got 30 days to leave my home in France
When we applied for the right to remain in France after Britain leaves the EU, we discovered that we don't meet a basic income criteria that we had never before been told existed

Emma Lawrence in France

The Independent
I have 30 days to leave my home thanks to Brexit.

Last week everything we’d been working for since we moved to France turned upside down. Two letters arrived from the French government: one for me, one for my partner. The letters were not unexpected as we were waiting for news on our visa application. What was unexpected was what the letters said.

In anticipation of life after Brexit, it has been strongly recommended that British people living in France apply for their “Carte de Sejour" residency permit. The French government has emphasised how important it is, as too has the British government, the newspapers, and all the many organisations that exist to offer advice and support to the two hundred thousand or so people that call this country their home. What hasn’t been quite so strongly explained, however, is the need to meet the income threshold set by the French government.

As current EU citizens, Brits are allowed to spend more than three months in France providing they meet the conditions for legal residence. These conditions dictate that you must either work, be self-employed, able to live self-sufficiently on your own resources or be in education. So far so good, until you factor in that France is one of the few European countries that stipulates a fixed amount which it regards as “sufficient resources”.

However, those “sufficient resources” vary according to your situation. And, depending on where in France you live, you can be held hostage to the decision makers at your local “prefecture” (the equivalent of a county council). Indeed part of the challenge that many Brits are facing is that French governance is devolved to the local areas and many of these prefectures have a reputation for acting independently and differently to each other.

The rules state that if you are single you must earn at least €550.93 a month, a figure that increases to €943.28 if you have a child. Likewise for couples, you must earn €826.40 as a household or €991.68 if you have a child. Pensioners must have an income of €868.20 if they are single or €1,347.88 if they are in a couple. Rumour has it these figures will increase year-on-year.

Up until recently, France has rarely followed income checks on EU citizens and so many self-supporting British people have been happily living here, albeit surviving on less than what the France deems acceptable. People just like us.

We have lived in France since September 2016. We moved here with our two children with dreams of buying our own home with some land, so we could grow our own food, learn the language, and – hopefully, in future – gain citizenship. We don’t earn a lot right now but have more than sufficient savings to live off while we build up our businesses. We pay our taxes, our children go to school here, we’re contributing to the system.

The Leave.EU scandal proves the Brexit vote was rotten
But that wasn’t enough for our local prefecture, which last week wrote to us to tell us that we had 30 days to leave the country. The reasons they gave is that there was no proof that James is self-supporting (we were not made aware of any missing information from our application – if we had we’d have provided it) and that my business does not make enough. Between us we need to prove that we have €1175.00 per month to live on.

The feeling of panic I got from the moment I opened those letters is still with me now. It sits in the pit of my stomach as a constant reminder of the nightmare we are now living.

We are determined to fight this every step of the way. The British Embassy has picked up our case and is talking to the French government on our behalf. We are confident that we do meet the rules and that actually this has been a mistake – a perfect storm of an incomplete dossier and a prefecture under pressure to process all the applications (as many as 30 a day in our area.)

The response to our case has been overwhelming. We’ve received countless messages of support and offers of help. There are the naysayers, of course, and people who have been quick to judge, but on the whole people are stunned by what has happened. Many, who have been burying their heads in the sand are now waking up to the reality of Brexit for Brits living abroad.

Our story has also encouraged others to share theirs and we know that we are not the only ones experiencing this situation. According to the Remain in France Together group, in 2017 some 3367 orders to leave France were issued to EU citizens because of failure to meet the legal residence conditions. It is unclear how many of those were British citizens but you can be sure that those numbers will rise as more Brits apply for their Carte de Sejours in anticipation of Brexit. This is in contrast to the UK government which has decided not to include means testing as a condition of applying for settled status.

We now have a very clear understanding of what is required and what is at stake. The lesson for us is that we can never take for granted our obligations to our host countries. Lucky for us we can challenge the decision, but others will not be so fortunate.

Life is about to get tougher for many UK citizens in the EU and vice versa. As the saying goes, “you don’t know what you’ve got 'til it’s gone”

Crassus 6:28 Thu Apr 18
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SUHYT

You can't reconcile your nationality let alone the complexity of a wager

HairyHammer 6:11 Thu Apr 18
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The Brexit party !, very clever name that sadly for me I had put a ten pound bet on Smug British Masters of the Universe party, that would have suited Farage beautifully.

Willtell 5:40 Thu Apr 18
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BRANDED 11:26 Thu Apr 18
"Half of England is owned by less than 1% of the population."


Let me guess. You've looked at the Guardian headline?

In the meantime of course how about all these pretend socialist MPs possessions?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4bf5f8WwAE3cGl.jpg

Crassus 4:44 Thu Apr 18
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Top work Lee, beat me to it hehe

Hammer and Pickle 4:42 Thu Apr 18
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What I don’t get is how apparently you haven’t worked out Farage is a Kremlin asset.

Are you a real imbecile or are you so utterly miserable that you genuinely like the fact he is clearly working for the enemy?

Pub Bigot 4:34 Thu Apr 18
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I hope you're not planning something, Pickle. I mean, you're the only one to refer to posters as Jesuits or Russian collaborators.

Lee Trundle 4:33 Thu Apr 18
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PUTIN

Hammer and Pickle 4:30 Thu Apr 18
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Nothing at all new here either

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/04/17/how-farages-campaign-colluded-with-putin-to-weaponise-hate-and-islamophobia/

Expect someone to blow up/get stabby before 23rd May.

Mike Oxsaw 4:26 Thu Apr 18
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Crassus 1:36 Thu Apr 18

Of course they will.

Any straw to slam on the leaving camel's back will be fair game to them.

ChillTheKeel 3:21 Thu Apr 18
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No one seems to be posting the Westminster polls on here anymore. Funny that.

only1billybonds 2:41 Thu Apr 18
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Crassus. 1.36.

I was thinking that same thing. Someone will conjour up a way to stop us voting on May 23rd as they know the BP will run riot.

Should this transpire my use of the word coward in the same sentance as remainer will be fully justified.

Darby_ 2:32 Thu Apr 18
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Here we go, rios. Someone's on the ball.

https://www.eureporter.co/frontpage/2019/04/18/uk-economy-grows-as-brexit-stockpiling-lifts-factories/

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