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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Hammer and Pickle 7:34 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Can’t help you if you can’t read.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 7:06 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Hammer and Pickle 2:11 Sat Sep 26

'I said the treasuries receive interest RATES from the central banks, you massive great lolloping logical disaster'



wtf does that even mean? You make no sense. Do you think putting 'receive' and 'rates' in the same sentence, no matter how.unintelligible, will make things better?

Mike Oxsaw 4:42 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
They wouldn't be called cross-border checks but for Brexit.

They'd still be doing exactly the same thing, using exactly the same people & processes, but they wouldn't be CALLED cross-border checks.

only1billybonds 4:38 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
But Herm,surely this means a return to the troubles and bombs going off everywhere?

Isnt this what we've been told by the remoan gestapo?

Hermit Road 2:47 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/health/coronavirus/police-operate-cross-border-checks-today-bid-halt-covid-19-2984397

Dublin has put a hard border in place around Northern Island.

only1billybonds 2:42 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Serf son.

Did you spend much time in the scouts?

I ask as you seem to be an expert in tying knots. :-)


96.

Hammer and Pickle 2:11 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
I said the treasuries receive interest RATES from the central banks, you massive great lolloping logical disaster.

Mike Oxsaw 2:11 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
What seems important here is that the UK is going to actually have to start raising and collecting charges for non-resident UK passport holders to access their services, such as the NHS, travel passes, benefits & pensions

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:11 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
1) It probably does if the surplus is structural
2) I have NEVER suggested that central bank lending was not the usual way to set the price of money.
3) Your second paragraph is blather

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:10 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
1) It probably does if the surplus is structural
2) I have NEVER suggested that central bank lending was not the usual way to set the price of money.
3) Your second paragraph is blather

Nurse Ratched 2:05 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
*chuckles*

You know what? I know feck all about central banks and national treasuries, but damn it, I think I'll argue with Surf about it anyway.


Surf, you know-nothing. Central banks and national treasuries are more or less the same. They both lend money and they both owe money and they also pay and receive interest. You can also get an overdraft via the central bank app. I know because I downloaded it.

Hammer and Pickle 2:05 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Running a budget surplus does not mean the national treasury isn’t the biggest national borrower and it does not mean that central bank lending ceases to set the basic price of money.

What is important here is what recourse the UK Treasury is going to find to service its burgeoning borrowing requirement now that Sunak has had to bin his budget. Seems obvious to me dependence on the cheapest source of money around, which is the ECB, is only going to deepen, hence the market’s sanguine response what would normally cause an earthquake.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:55 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
H&P

Just another small thing that shows you to be a knob - borrowers PAY interest. Lenders RECEIVE it. Not the other way round. An issuer is a borrower. You knew that, right?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:52 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
H&P

That last paragraph is utter bollocks. What about countries that run a budget surplus - are they the biggest borrowers around? Central banks are not FOR lending money to governments either.

Are you some kind of special needs person? I would have thought even the thickest of the thick might have resorted to 'Google 'role central bank' ' by now. I would have picked you up on it immediately, but it would at least have given you an out.

What a knob.

Hammer and Pickle 1:08 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Central banks are also FOR lending money to governments, who, being the biggest borrowers around receive an interest rate on their treasuries that forms the base rate for the whole banking system.

I don’t need to discuss this with a pointy-headed freak like you by the way.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:50 Sat Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Hammer and Pickle 10:30 Fri Sep 25

'Yes, central banks can set rates - that’s what they are for.'

No. Again you show your monumental ignorance whilst attempting to show how clever you are.

That isn't what central banks are FOR at all.

Hammer and Pickle 10:47 Fri Sep 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
My word, I swear you could bore for England.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 10:41 Fri Sep 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Pickled

You do realise that when you use the wrong words in describing a process you don't understand, and are then corrected , a mere echoing back of your correcters words doesn't really show anything.

You lack the technical expertise or wit to even understand why you are making a dick of yourself. There would be no shame in that whatsoever but for the bombastic and didactic tone of your posts on a a subject about which you are clearly not qualified to discuss.

Hammer and Pickle 10:30 Fri Sep 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Yes, central banks can set rates - that’s what they are for.

You’re not altogether all there, are you - in the lights are on but nobody’s home sense.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 10:19 Fri Sep 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Do you understand the difference between 'buy at any rate' and 'set rates'?

Do you further understand that central banks pretty much CAN set any interest rate they want?

Hammer and Pickle 10:14 Fri Sep 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Very well indeed - central banks don’t just set any rates they want.

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