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Gavros 8:33 Tue Jan 9
Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
This looks big.....there' an FBI informer within Trump's inner circle...

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Capitol Man 6:03 Sat Feb 16
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Mueller made a court statement today saying they have the communications between Stone and Wikileaks and Guccifer.

Westham67 5:53 Sat Feb 16
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The base is spitting. Coulter calls Trump an idiot

Trump says Ann Coulter is 'off the reservation' over border wall criticism — she responds furiously

https://www.theblaze.com/news/trump-says-ann-coulter-is-off-the-reservation-over-border-wall-criticism-she-responds-furiously

ironsofcanada 2:51 Sat Feb 16
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Westham67 2:31 Sat Feb 16

I guess the hope is as you normalize relations, introduce trade etc. you make the country more accessible and transparent and people are less oppressed. Whether that works or not we will see.

I know that what the presidents, going back however many years, tried hasn't worked. I worked on a project on early modern English food words coming from East Asian languages last year, and met North Korean defector who was a grad student here. Really interesting but harrowing stories.

The US "isn't about" a lot of regimes around the world but has stepped back from world policeman and/or champion of democracy somewhat lately. The difference here is the nuclear thing.

Obviously complex but thanks for the discussion. Need to sleep.

Westham67 2:31 Sat Feb 16
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I read that article cheer. What stood out to me was the removal of troops for SK and a peace agreement would validate Kim. more. Which is everything the US isn't about they were no angels during the cold war backing right wing military juntas in central America. With NK we are talking about the suppression of over 23 million people

ironsofcanada 2:15 Sat Feb 16
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Westham67 2:06 Sat Feb 16

There are a lot of brutal dictators around the world. Does trading or bombing or leaving them alone make them less brutal and help their people , not sure I know the answer to that.

Definitely vanity involved but that plays a part in a bunch of politics, it is whether the goal at the end is worth it.

Unless you are looking for a regime change, I don't think giving credibility is the worst thing you can do.

An interesting take on it:

https://thebulletin.org/2019/02/denuclearization-of-the-korean-peninsula-begins-with-a-peace-declaration/

Westham67 2:06 Sat Feb 16
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I feel Kim is a brutal dictator and he is not going denuclearize according to US Intel.

Trump is giving Kim credibility and pandering to his own vanity

ironsofcanada 2:00 Sat Feb 16
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Westham67 1:59 Sat Feb 16

How do you feel about that?

Westham67 2:00 Sat Feb 16
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*declare

Westham67 1:59 Sat Feb 16
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Trump likely to delare peace with NK at the Mug 2 summit

ironsofcanada 1:56 Sat Feb 16
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Capitol Man 1:19 Sat Feb 16

You give that whole speech and then your next "original" take is

"Entertainly while giving the speech announcing the emergency trump says it’s not an emergency."

Something I read as the big gotcha in the media a few hours ago before I went out.

You defend the traditional media so hard because, where would you be without it? You would have nothing to post that wasn't error, a logical fallacy, a failed analogy or an insult. That is what comes out when you have to rely on your own own guns. The thread shows that and notice you can't argue with that.

Again give up the attack the poster rubbish and talk some policy with me. Because if you compare you and me, I am telling people to think critically and you are making mistakes and bellowing insults without evidence.

Capitol Man 1:27 Sat Feb 16
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Entertainly while giving the speech announcing the emergency trump says it’s not an emergency.

Capitol Man 1:19 Sat Feb 16
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ironsofcanada 8:00 Fri Feb 15
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The Canadian snowflake is falling again.

The point is you seem to have this entire basis for you views that those silly liberals are being misled from the path of truth and justice by the what, fake news media, or however you dress it up - driving things like your obsession with the fringe-at-best young Turks.

Then we have the conservative media getting worked up over the Covington boys, and so do you.

Then we have conservative media and the gop getting all excited about the Green New Deal, and you are there trying to list out what you’ve read about it being stupid.

And this is while you seem to want to question other posters’ sources of information.

Capitol Man 1:13 Sat Feb 16
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Darby_ 11:58 Fri Feb 15
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And that gets to the heart of the problem. A pair of dimwit trolls are trolling a dimwit president.

HairyHammer 12:08 Sat Feb 16
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Ironsofcanada 4.40

The man is a rabid racist he talks to people as if he is the only one that matters, he is an egotist and acts like a big tall spoilt fat baby, he hates the poor and looks upon the working people of America with distain , he obviously hates women he cannot talk in sentences he knows fuck all about anything , he is a stubborn old fool who has a look on his face that is always arrogant he does not read or want to learn he lies all the time about everything including policy's and that is just a start as to why I dislike the man.

Darby_ 11:58 Fri Feb 15
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The loneliness of a long-distance Trump cultist.

“Unfortunately, some of Trump’s most important supporters in the conservative media are not convinced. Fox personality Tomi Lahren tweeted, “I’m not gonna sugar coat it, if @realDonaldTrump takes this sham border deal from the Democrats, he loses in 2020 and we ALL lose for years to come.” Laura Ingraham agreed: “Total SCAM! @realDonaldTrump wasn’t elected for this.” Ann Coulter went with all caps: “IT’S OVER IF HE SIGNS THIS BILL.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/02/15/trumps-reelection-campaign-just-got-lot-tougher/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-k%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans&utm_term=.4478be24d1c3

It’s almost as if a reality TV buffoon isn’t a great negotiator just because he says he is.

ironsofcanada 9:03 Fri Feb 15
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VirginiaHam 8:38 Fri Feb 15

Political policy, mate, like the Green New Deal or using the Emergency measures for the wall.

VirginiaHam 8:38 Fri Feb 15
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I thought one of the attractions of WHO was there was no policy?

Just no racist shit.

ironsofcanada 8:00 Fri Feb 15
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I literally have agreed with the Democrats a couple times in the last few days and you still had to "get at me" every time.

Let this personal stuff go and keep it to policy.

ironsofcanada 7:58 Fri Feb 15
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Capitol Man 7:54 Fri Feb 15

You do it from the left, do you not? You are not posting anything first person or ground breaking.

And you put less critical thought into whether they are valid or not.

Capitol Man 7:54 Fri Feb 15
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ironsofcanada 7:49 Fri Feb 15
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Your obsession with sources is especially comical given the regularity with which you spew out whatever the right wing talking point of the day is.

There is literally zero self-awareness.

ironsofcanada 7:49 Fri Feb 15
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Westham67 7:47 Fri Feb 15

Great source and I agree with the content if not the rhetoric.

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