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Gavros 8:33 Tue Jan 9
Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
This looks big.....there' an FBI informer within Trump's inner circle...

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ironsofcanada 1:13 Sat Aug 24
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I would not do it the way Trump is doing it but what do I know.

That said, something needs to be done about China. People have been banging on about Russia and Putin (this thread being a prime example) and they have ignore another massive, probably much worse, problem.

Willtell 1:04 Sat Aug 24
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Gavros
My apologies. I obviously mis-read the percentage somewhere that I thought said it was 30% but I can't find it now so I guess you're right on the percentage unless you haven't included services? The correct figure doesn't really make any difference to my point though.

Trump has grown the economy of America and this last quarter slipped but the underlying growth is still there. Unemployment keeps falling and that is a good sign as more manufacturing and services are getting started.

The point is that it is difficult to grow an economy when they are already the biggest consumers of goods in the world with only 350m people.

China is edging towards their total consumption with over 1 billion more unless China buys more American goods....

They don't want to and that is what this is all about. China is overtaking America but someone has to stop their bandit trade practices and that is what is dragging Trump's figures down to Obama levels imo...

Gavros 12:29 Sat Aug 24
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As for 'bringing productuon back home' - how the fuck is that going to happen? Even if he could order firms to leave China, which he cant, would hey relocate to the US, or just go to vietnam instead?

Its not the 1950s. Which is, coincidentally, the decade you last had an original thought.

Gavros 12:25 Sat Aug 24
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FACTS, Wullie, facts.

He has not grown the economy msssively. Its grown much the same as it did under Obama and hes also spunked a load of tax revenue on a tax cut that did nothing.

The US has 16% of world trade, not 30%.

Youre talking out of you arse.

Willtell 11:37 Sat Aug 24
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Except Gavros, Trump has grown the economy massively.

Growth recently dropped to an anualised 2.1% but America is employing again and household consumption and government spending increased at faster rates. The slow down in exports lowered the growth figure.

As I said though. When you have 33% of the world's trade already, any export growth is harder and harder to make. as more production is brought home and unemployment rates keep falling, the future looks bright in spite of all the liberals of the world wanting it to collapse to finally get Trump out....

Gavros 11:27 Sat Aug 24
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"America has grown its economy massively under Trump so if it gets a little set back so what?"

Proof that you can brazenly lie about shit and mongs will believe you.

Hardly the sort of oversight here that one would expect from the chair of a board.

Gavros 11:24 Sat Aug 24
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One third of world trade?

Youre pulling numbers out of your flaccid old arse again wullie son?

Willtell 9:53 Sat Aug 24
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Except when USA already has one third of the world's trade, 2.10% growth is fucking huge...

Darby_ 9:48 Sat Aug 24
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The US economy has been growing at the exact same rate of around 2% that it’s been growing at since 2010.

Then again, I suspect facts like that aren’t included in his CAPS LOCK, GREATEST ECONOMY EVER FOLKS, YOU’LL LOVE IT twitter account.

Willtell 9:31 Sat Aug 24
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...unfair Trading Relationship. China should not have put new Tariffs on 75 BILLION DOLLARS of United States product (politically motivated!). Starting on October 1st, the 250 BILLION DOLLARS of goods and products from China, currently being taxed at 25%, will be taxed at 30%...

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...Additionally, the remaining 300 BILLION DOLLARS of goods and products from China, that was being taxed from September 1st at 10%, will now be taxed at 15%. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Willtell 9:06 Sat Aug 24
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The trouble is not what Trump has done to China and China in return. America has grown its economy massively under Trump so if it gets a little set back so what?

Sometimes people have to stand up and be counted. You can tell which ones would have been the collaborators in war times can't you?

Darby_ 8:26 Sat Aug 24
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The issues with China weren’t massive in the great scheme of things. They certainly weren’t worth plunging the US into a recession as Trump is at risk of doing.

But that’s what you get for electing a comedy reality TV twonk. Elect clueless people and things probably won’t go well for you.

Gazza_AZ 7:56 Sat Aug 24
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Gentlemen
Excellent discourse - clearly not falling into the all too common trap of talking past one another. Excellent there is hope for real political discussions on this site...
Carry On carrying on...

Capitol Man 6:09 Sat Aug 24
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
In all fucking seriousness -,what the fuck did you think the tpp was designed to do?

Capitol Man 5:00 Sat Aug 24
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Nutsin 4:47 Sat Aug 24
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And I still mock him, and you. You seem confused as usual fls. The question has never been are there issues with China. The issue is that starting a trade war with tweets with no overall strategy, no idea of what the goals are, and no way out was fucking idiotic.

You can’t seem to grasp the fucking basics.

The tpp was designed to counter Chinese power and act as a tool to counterbalance China. You were told that at the time, but you were too fucking stupid to see that and too dishonest to admit you were wrong.

Nutsin 4:47 Sat Aug 24
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Mong

You’ve changed your tune, when Trump first started talking about China you mocked him.

Now you say he is right to step in and do something, glad you finally caught on. Took you long enough!

If you think this stand against China is gonna come at no cost then you are an even bigger idiot that what I give u credit for.
Everyone understands the game except you, doesn’t that worry you? I mean you are always so slow at catching on, surely you must realize that you are a thick cunt!

Capitol Man 4:33 Sat Aug 24
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So you confident of a trump win here NoNuts? You agree with his trade war? Are they easy to win? Is he the chosen one?

Capitol Man 4:31 Sat Aug 24
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Nutsin 3:45 Sat Aug 24
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Yes you fucking retarded cunt.

How much of a loser do you need to be to claim that as some sort of win? Still fat, lazy, stupid.

Nutsin 3:45 Sat Aug 24
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Oh so you all agree that Trump is right to try to do something about China. You just disagree with his tactics.

That's a big step forward for Mong and absolute wanker.

They seem to have progressed.

Capitol Man 3:01 Sat Aug 24
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What should have happened was to sign the tpp, and get the other Asians nations on board, aligned with the allies in the E.U., and gone to China to negotiate changes, gradually increasing pressure, but allowing for both sides to claim a win.

Instead we have an orange sphincter dismantling global trade by tweet.

HairyHammer 2:58 Sat Aug 24
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If it was not so serious Trump would be hilarious 24/7. I honestly believe that even the brilliant mind of Jim Henson using the cookie Monster as President could not have created such a ridiculous character as Trump.

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