WHO Poll
Q: 2018/19 Wolves (H)
a. At last we have a win now let's make it two, Win
48%
  
b. A win against 10 men and two leagues below us is fine, but this will be much harder I'll take a point, Draw
13%
  
c. Who are we kidding, a win against Wimbledon and all is rosy, forget it we're getting our arses kicked in this one, Lose
30%
  
d. It's at times like these when you really do miss Love Island
2%
  
e. I was all over this game until I found out it's not on the box, the broadcasting companies really don't care about us hard core fans do they, I might pop off to Thorpe Park for the day instead, obviously in my WHU shirt
8%
  



FruityBoots. 10:33 Tue Jul 10
Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
I little too matter of fact in their comments when keepers make what they refer to as errors. Danny Murphy questioning Lloris punching instead of catching “should have caught that, yeah should have caught that dunno what he’s doing there” just now. Gary Neville telling us the first Russian goal vs Croatia “Schmiechel would have saved that, and Cortious”. Ok why didn’t you play in goal then!? When these players were playing the footballs were very different, the Mitre Delta Ultimax then the early Nike balls travelled pretty much straight and didn’t barely deviate where as the balls in the last 5 - 10 years have evolved so much particularly with the unpredictability in flight with late changes in direction & pace and the coatings used on the balls especially this Telstar 18 used in the World Cup. Maybe these so called fuck ups by Degear and Muslera in the World Cup as well as Karius in the Champions league final could be explained with a little degree of sympathy.

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Blunders 6:12 Fri Jul 13
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
As a keeper myself, this is a particular gripe with me.

Outfield ex-pros analysis of keepers is usually bullshit and they have no idea what they're talking about.

The classic one is, "he'll be disappointed getting beat at his near post."

If you ask most goalkeepers, they'd be equally fucked off getting beat anywhere else in the goal. This near post thing is rubbish.

Dr Moose 1:20 Fri Jul 13
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
European keepers are not taught to catch the ball; we teach our kids from an early age to catch the ball rather than punch it all the time.

Its down to the goalkeeping coaches at the clubs to coach this into the European keepers as we did with Ludo.

Russ of the BML 11:17 Wed Jul 11
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
Murphy played at the highest level and so if he thinks a keeper should catch a ball instead of punching I'll go with that. Plus, I wasn't a keeper nor did I play at the highest level but even I could see he should've caught it anyway.

Crassus 9:00 Wed Jul 11
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
TS had Bosnic on the other day talking about penalties

He was apparently renowned for saving them and did so ten times one season. His insight was very interesting. Far better than regular ex pro's.

He said two things that stuck in my mind - it's not a choice of dive left or right, there is a third option, down the middle so stay upright and read the kicker. Second, the worse run up for the keeper was the straight run with the taker not looking at the ball, most look at it and then plant the standing foot at an angle they are going to shoot at

Watched the subsequent shoot outs with that in mind, uncannily accurate

solidbond 5:56 Wed Jul 11
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
Maybe just maybe they might know what there talking about after experiencing being on the football pitch with world class goalkeepers through out there careers .neville was spot on .

lowlife 12:41 Wed Jul 11
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
I played in goal for about 10 years, a few of them at a decent level. Agree with the OP that most commentators don’t have a clue and come up with the banal ‘should have saved that’ or ‘should have caught it’ comments too often - very lazy commentating. It’s a massively pressurised role, I’d say the most pressure of any of the positions - one mistake and it knocks your confidence for that game and upcoming games.

I loved playing there though, despite the multiple broken fingers.

bell 11:07 Tue Jul 10
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
Craig Forrest is on the Saturday prem games for a Canadian channel.

mallard 11:03 Tue Jul 10
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
I'm struggling to think of any ex-keepers on TV since Bob Wilson !

Interesting point about the newer style balls though, seem to be alot of top keepers spilling long range efforts recently.

Worth noting, the pre-nineties keepers had to deal with the worm-burners skimming off the uneven pitches back in the day.

Sven Roeder 10:53 Tue Jul 10
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
Gary Neville’s keeping comments always involve Schmeichel saving this or Van der Sar saving that or wanking off De Gea.
Obviously a coincidence

FruityBoots. 10:45 Tue Jul 10
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
Yeah I agree keepers aren’t above criticism but it’s such a different specialist position for ex outfield players to be commentating on so matter of factly.

claretandbluedagger 10:38 Tue Jul 10
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
I don't think keepers should be above criticism, but the way the likes of Gary Neville have been going on is ridiculous. Act like they know exactly what should be done for every shot when in reality they'd struggle to figure out how to put the gloves on.

zebthecat 10:38 Tue Jul 10
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
Gary Neville is a fucking moron.
Bit unfair to judge the rest of them on his idiocy.

Far Cough 10:35 Tue Jul 10
Re: Outfield players (pundits) commenting on Goalkeepers.
The Dunlop 10 lb balls back in the day or 20 Ibs when wet





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