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Bullet 11:08 Mon Aug 20
Snodgrass says our defending is criminal
Pelle says we will be a very good team if we play for 90 mins like the first 45, but we could have easily been 1-4 down at half time due to bad defending.

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Robert Snodgrass today described West Ham’s defending against Bournemouth as “criminal” and warned that, unless there is a swift improvement, Manuel Pellegrini’s side will continue to struggle.

West Ham conceded 68 goals last season, the worst defensive record in the Premier League along with relegated Stoke and the 2-1 home defeat by Bournemouth, following the 4-0 mauling by Liverpool, suggests that they are yet to solve that problem.

“When we’ve let the dust settle and assessed the game, I think we’ll be very disappointed with the goals we’ve conceded,” admitted Snodgrass, who started Saturday’s match after impressing in pre-season following his return to the club from a loan spell at Aston Villa last season.

West Ham had led through a first half Marko Arnautovic penalty but two goals in six second half minutes, the first from Callum Wilson who evaded several anaemic challenges before scoring – and the second a Steve Cook header from a free-kick, were decisive.

“With the first one, their player has run 40 yards and we had five defenders against one attacker. At any level that’s criminal,” said Snodgrass.

“The manager has tried to stop that sort of defending and it’s very difficult to take because you’re never going to get better with mistakes like that.

“We’ve probably worked on five hundred set pieces leading up to the season because he’s been wanting to stop that kind of goals and then we concede a goal - from a set piece.

“You just can’t defend like that and the boys know that as well.
“I can’t comment on last season because I wasn’t here and I don’t know what happened. I’ve come back with a new manager, his standards and pedigree. I can only take notice of his words and they are that we cannot defend like we did last season.

“I take it that it was quite bad and when you look at the number of goals we conceded, you can see where he’s coming from. Anybody watching the game will see that you can’t defend the way we did and expect to win the game.

“You need to be ready, to adapt quickly and learn fast. I said something similar the week before when people said: ‘Oh but it’s Liverpool and they will do that to other teams.’

“We need to get away from that, we need to be resilient and solid. Your defence, first and foremost, is your base.

“The only way to get better is to work on the training and try to stop mistakes like Saturday’s.

“It’s totally up to the manager to what he does about rotation and stopping goals like that. He will look at the game and assess it. We need to learn fast though because that was criminal.”

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Rusta 1:26 Tue Aug 21
Re: Snodgrass says our defending is criminal
That 1st goal was outrageous I literally couldn’t believe what I was watching. It even winds me up more that they talk about working on it at the training ground.
Seriously if you have to spend time with players going through what they should be doing in scenarios like that then the whole lot of them want fucking off.

HairyHammer 12:33 Tue Aug 21
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Not last year last season.

HairyHammer 12:31 Tue Aug 21
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Well he ain't lying is he?, when I watched it on M0TD2 last night never mind that first goal looking criminal I thought it looked comical, I would expect better defending at an under 8's five a side game .
Sadly it reminded me of the Burnley game last year where our team forgot they were on a football pitch and thought they were lying down on a Psychiatrists couch waiting timidly to explain their woe's away.

Alex V 11:41 Mon Aug 20
Re: Snodgrass says our defending is criminal
First rule of football - Spanish speakers and intricate one-twos in the centre-circle.

KingandPaynter 11:21 Mon Aug 20
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first rule of football - solid defence and powerful midfield

we have 0 of 2 after £100 mil + spent

twats

Mex Martillo 8:50 Mon Aug 20
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Cambsiron and then it just gets worse and worse as Wilson skips past the defenders one at a time
Snodgrass was quite generous with his description

cambsiron 8:13 Mon Aug 20
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Truly awful watching Noble slowly jogging behind the player that scored without any inclination to give him a problem.

geoffpikey 7:30 Mon Aug 20
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He played last season with the man, the legend, the defender that is JTsey.

So Snodders knows "criminal" when he sees it.

Sir Alf 6:06 Mon Aug 20
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You defend as a team. You press as a team. Saw a few flashes of that but not enough.

However, too many of our players are not working hard enough ( fitness, attitude, instructions, tactics?) and too many of them are not mobile enough or strong enough especially in the midfield.

Snoddy was right to say 1 player going past 5 is criminal but so long as he realises he like every other outfield player should be drilled to close down etc.. when they have it. Did not see enough of that.

But there is another basic problem. Aside from Arfur, Fredericks and perhaps Anderson/Arnie, most of our squad / team are as one paced.

Recruitment did not address this so we will have to alter the team shape, set up and selections to compensate as even Moyes worked out. We can pass accurately and have great possession stats but you need great movement and endless running to open up gaps in teams that work as hard, are super fit and have better pace. The alternative is individuals who can open teams up like Payet did for 6 months. He also had superb accurate delivery of a football.

Sir Alf 6:06 Mon Aug 20
Re: Snodgrass says our defending is criminal
You defend as a team. You press as a team. Saw a few flashes of that but not enough.

However, too many of our players are not working hard enough ( fitness, attitude, instructions, tactics?) and too many of them are not mobile enough or strong enough especially in the midfield.

Snoddy was right to say 1 player going past 5 is criminal but so long as he realises he like every other outfield player should be drilled to close down etc.. when they have it. Did not see enough of that.

But there is another basic problem. Aside from Arfur, Fredericks and perhaps Anderson/Arnie, most of our squad / team are as one paced.

Recruitment did not address this so we will have to alter the team shape, set up and selections to compensate as even Moyes worked out. We can pass accurately and have great possession stats but you need great movement and endless running to open up gaps in teams that work as hard, are super fit and have better pace. The alternative is individuals who can open teams up like Payet did for 6 months. He also had superb accurate delivery of a football.

Mex Martillo 5:24 Mon Aug 20
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If you are blaming people for losing the ball I think you can put some blame on Arnautovic as well. Arnautovic was not paying attention, Snodgrass’s pass was actually quite good and Arnautovic could have easily received it but was not paying attention to the game, jogging along aimlessly. He even looks pissed of that Snodgrass tried to move the ball forward fast when he was not ready. Sums up the whole team, they are not full on, not concentrating, not looking for the ball.

Anyway, why do people think Snodgrass is not also referring to himself as part of the team with defensive duties, I am sure he is.

Lastly, perhaps strangely I am more worried about the attack and tracking back than the defense. We are not attacking well, we have not scored from open play or have even created many chances. Add to that the poor tracking back to help the defense and you have to ask what the fuck are our midfield and attack doing, fuck all!!

Russ of the BML 4:41 Mon Aug 20
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You can pick the bones out of it as much as you like but what he has said can't be argued with.

SUM A DING WONG 3:47 Mon Aug 20
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El Scorchio 3:07 Mon Aug 20

SUM A DING WONG 3:41 Mon Aug 20
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I was pissed off when RS didnt make the pass.

But any decent, well set up side should be able to deal with losing possession mid way inside the opposition's half.

1 player should not be beating 5 players, end of.

Side of Ham 3:37 Mon Aug 20
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Oops sorry bolty thought you was questioning me. :-)

Side of Ham 3:36 Mon Aug 20
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boltkunt 3:06 Mon Aug 20

He had to try to play the forward pass as we was on the front foot for once (that's why i think he had little other option) and rather than going sideways or backwards as had been happening for most the second half he wanted to get a chance for one of our already frustrated forward line.I didn't mention about him being under pressure so i don't know why you've tried badly to pull me up on that as that probably contributed to him wanting to play the ball in (lack of pressure), but they made sure whoever had the ball was surrounded and the pass would be difficult at best.

They slowly wore us down physically and mentally knowing they had the impetus and they could carve through our lethargic team effort due to us rarely offering a decent attacking option but instead going backwards or sideways.

We was yet again 'gappy' as a unit just like the stadium.

Jaan Kenbrovin 3:24 Mon Aug 20
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I was at the game, kunt. It was a ridiculous decision to try and pick a pass through about 5 Bournemouth players, whilst players were trying to push up to give options.

Westham67 3:07 Mon Aug 20
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boltkunt 3:06 Mon Aug 20

El Scorchio 3:07 Mon Aug 20
Re: Snodgrass says our defending is criminal
Jaan Kenbrovin 2:43

I'd imagine any player would see how many men Bournemouth had behind the ball, and safe in the knowledge that one of the several West Ham players behind him would and should be well capable of stopping any solo counter attack that might come if the ambitious pass didn't work.

If a player can't have confidence in an entire defensive unit which is behind him, then we're never going to play anything other than shitty short side to side passes like we usually do for fear of losing the ball and the other team easily running right through us to score.

boltkunt 3:06 Mon Aug 20
Re: Snodgrass says our defending is criminal
He lost the ball under no pressure when we were trying to push up


Hahahaha, clearly didn't watch the game!

13 Brentford Rd 3:05 Mon Aug 20
Re: Snodgrass says our defending is criminal
So where was the midfield for the 1st goal?

Almost an entirely new back 5, new manager but the same shit keeps happening.
Going by last season too it seems that the defence are getting no protection from the midfield.
I just hope Sanchez is the answer as we really do need someone to sit Infront of the defence and just mop up oppo attacks and start ours off. Seeing as we are also playing with wingbacks in a four I would say it's a given.
Surely first thing any manager should do is to start at the back.

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