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Q: 2018/19 Wolves (H)
a. At last we have a win now let's make it two, Win
48%
  
b. A win against 10 men and two leagues below us is fine, but this will be much harder I'll take a point, Draw
13%
  
c. Who are we kidding, a win against Wimbledon and all is rosy, forget it we're getting our arses kicked in this one, Lose
30%
  
d. It's at times like these when you really do miss Love Island
2%
  
e. I was all over this game until I found out it's not on the box, the broadcasting companies really don't care about us hard core fans do they, I might pop off to Thorpe Park for the day instead, obviously in my WHU shirt
8%
  



charleyfarley 11:33 Mon Sep 10
Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
The Chilean needs to quickly start turning his disparate collection of individuals into a team to avoid more unrest

Paul Wilson

Sun 9 Sep 2018 10.00 BST Last modified on Sun 9 Sep 2018 18.03 BST


It would be premature, though only a little, to suggest that when the Premier League returns on Saturday it will find West Ham in crisis mode, yet there can be no doubting that Manuel Pellegrini needs a result at Everton. If the fifth fixture of the season seems rather early for a must-win game, Pellegrini has to at least convince fans, board and players that he knows what he is doing and is capable of turning West Ham into a viable team instead of a collection of individuals who look as if they need a word with their agent.

Alan Shearer on Match of the Day quite rightly tore into them for the listlessness of their display against Wolves and being beaten at home by a promoted side can only be a confidence-drainer for a team still looking for their first league point. Hence the importance of next Sunday’s game at Everton, who looked listless in tamely allowing Huddersfield to escape Goodison Park with a point last week.


West Ham’s Manuel Pellegrini says promise of full responsibility was key

The good news for West Ham is that Richarlison is still unavailable through suspension and on the evidence of the Huddersfield game Everton do not possess too many other players who can spring surprises or inject attacking pace. The bad news is that after Everton come Chelsea and Manchester United, meaning that if West Ham fail to pick up any points at Goodison they could still be bottom of the table in October. By that point Pellegrini and his employers will not just be worried about the start that has been made but concerned about how the rest of the season is going to pan out.

Anyone surprised that this fate should befall a club that spent nearly £100m on nine new players in the summer and recruited a manager who won the English title as recently as 2014 has probably not been paying enough attention to how demanding the Premier League has become.

Introducing a clutch of new players is rarely a guarantee of instant success, as Everton found last season, when Ronald Koeman had to make way after failing to find how to integrate his new recruits into an effective team pattern. Far better in many cases to stick with what you know and find a coach capable of improving the performance and on-pitch understanding of a given set of players, as demonstrated by Eddie Howe, Sean Dyche and Chris Hughton in recent seasons.


Pellegrini is clearly not that manager. The league title he won was with Manchester City, who own an above-average set of players and had won the league under Roberto Mancini a couple of years earlier. Pellegrini’s achievement in holding off a tremendous challenge from Liverpool that year should not be underestimated, though it could be argued that with the players at their disposal City should never have allowed the title contest to go to the wire. It could certainly be pointed out that with the same set of players plus Kevin De Bruyne, Pellegrini’s fourth place in his final season at City was somewhat limp.

That need not necessarily have deterred West Ham. After all, only 10 people have won the Premier League in 26 seasons and two of them have now retired. Yet bringing in a 64-year‑old from China seemed tantamount to interrupting a retirement. Pellegrini turns 65 on Sundayand it must have been a surprise to get the call to return to England, though considering West Ham’s reported wages of £10m per season put him among the Premier League’s top-three earners, it would have been a pleasant one.

Manuel Pellegrini’s in-tray: what the new West Ham manager must tackle

One of the Chilean’s attractions was apparently that no compensation would be due to Hebei China Fortune, whereas Newcastle were demanding £6m for the release of Rafa Benítez. Given the lavish three-year contract awarded to Pellegrini that may turn out to be false economy, though Benítez seemed reluctant to swap one difficult situation for another in any case.

Pellegrini’s main concern was that the money had to be right – he was not going to sell himself cheaply for his last big move – and he seems to have been allowed to name his own price. West Ham’s desire for stability and continuity at some level is understandable, with many fans still unhappy about the loss of identity surrounding the move to a new stadium. But unless results improve quickly the club face more spectator unrest and the possibility of a three-year plan having to be hastily redrawn after three months.

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normannomates 5:28 Tue Sep 11
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
bullshitters with no morals

thats all they are.

that is all money bods are.

we are all nothing..as individuals..nothing.

you see ..the rich cant cart their shit with em

normannomates 4:59 Tue Sep 11
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
he doesnt give a monkeys about WHU

all the bollocks about watching the side last season?

fredericks and wilshire were the dwarfs signings..

fredericks isnt a proper full back...converted winger ..but he is expected to play in a back four?

doesnt add up does it.

wilshire looks simply disinerested..like pulling on the claret and blue shirt is beneath an Arsenal reject..not for the first time.

Perez i thought might be a decent signing..but again...who signed him...pelligrini or sullivan?

sullivan and his cunt agents still have major say over there...smoke and mirrors.

as for the training ground..fuckin pathetic

its taken the cunts nearly a decade to spend some dosh..and only under scrutiny.

bare minimum twhen fronted to face is what they do.

myself and every other WHU supporter is guilty as charged.

we have allowed em to royally fuck us without a whimper.

normannomates 4:30 Tue Sep 11
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
the wankers have invested to heavily in this cunt.
.pride ..money dictates

he will be here all season..regardless...they have no choice

they deserve all thats coming their way.

Westham67 3:59 Tue Sep 11
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
Hes at the coasting age happens in all professions there are anomalies who are more driven than others

Darlo Debs 3:07 Tue Sep 11
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
AOI i am.convinced they are biding their time and watching the goings on at Newcastle.

Trevor B 2:23 Tue Sep 11
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
gph 7:47 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham hes not yesterdays man - Guardian article
I notice a couple of our players wear stuff under their shirts.

It's not like it's been the depths of winter. How can you put a full shift in without overheating in you've got two layers on the top half of your body?


That will be made of special material that draws sweat away from the body and keeps you cool.

Any Old Iron 12:46 Tue Sep 11
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
The geezer's a busted flush. A very wealthy old guy who doesn't have the drive or ambition that he would have had 20 years ago.
He's now saddled the club with a load of over paid foreigners who mostly don't appear to give a fuck about the club.
Our cunt owners just don't have a clue.
If they did have any sense they'd show him the door and beg the unemplyed Moyes to come back - now.

Crassus 11:10 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
As said before a ball had been kicked in the league campaign - the bloke and his signings are abjectly shite, ill conceived and poorly deployed

442 with our's and his players will not work, never would

Home before Santa, but with an even bigger sack. Stuffed with our money, the 'Old Cunt'

wd40 8:18 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
I must have watched a good 80% of Brooking's home games and he just strolled around before the kick off and the rest is pure beautiful stunning true football .

eusebiovic 8:03 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
When you observe the quality of midfielders Pelle had at Villareal and Malaga then you really do have to start to worry...particularly the top class defensive midfielders he had at both clubs...

gph 7:47 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
I notice a couple of our players wear stuff under their shirts.

It's not like it's been the depths of winter. How can you put a full shift in without overheating in you've got two layers on the top half of your body?

New Jersey 7:40 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
And Moyes got Arnie playing out of his skin, at present they look like the team in the dying embers of Slav's reign or when Roeder/Grant was in charge!

camel-with-3-humps 7:32 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
Watch Cottee warm in the old days. A true pro.

33 years later and no progress.

Sir Alf 7:23 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
Must admit, I was not paying attention to warm ups and am trying to resist the temptation to add 2+2 and get 5.... but... this really seems to match up with what appeared to be a lackadaisical performance against Wolves and Bournemouth.

The thought of Moyes at the helm longer term was hardly inspiring but he is beginning to look better and better the longer MP is in charge.

Moyes did visibly improve our fitness and found a system that worked to some extent with the players he had at his disposal. MP seems to have the better outlook for the purists and what most fans were demanding at the end of last season but as always with West Ham we have swung the proverbial pendulum too far in reality. We are putting out a team of Chumley Warner "dandies" now smoking pipes and assuming they can stroll around and play their way to victories. Style over substance. The work ethic that Moyes improved seems to have evapourated?

Or is it as some claim, that the new style, tactics and coaching is taking a time to stick? I suspect the former but desperately hope its the later.

Sven Roeder 6:55 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
Warm ups are interesting to look at the intensity of players and how sharp (or not) they are.
Used to sit quite close to where we warmed up at the Boleyn and it was interesting to see some players preparing properly and others doing little flicks and tricks .... and then missing 5 yd passes when the game starts.
Was always noticeable when you saw someone like Payet in those little small sided games they do. Light years ahead of others.
Can remember Sky showing Barcelona doing the same game at Wembley when they were training before the Champions League Final v Man U they played there.
Bad comparison I know but the speed and intensity was ridiculous

Rusta 6:43 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
Talking of warm ups and I know that when your losing everything the manager does is bad and when your winning everything is a master stroke
but
I’ve got no coaching badges but cos my kids like to watch the warm ups I was watching Bournemouth’s versus ours and thought the same thing they looked proper on it while we lacked structure and was just strolling round

camel-with-3-humps 6:17 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
Sir Alf

Noble is interesting. He’s got a good eye for a a psss but gets bogged down trying to be Kante.

I’d have two defensive midfielders sitting behind him and then Nobes linking up to Anderson centrally.

He would dig in as well.

boltkunt 6:14 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
I remember we butted heads over young Freddie back in the day, ha.

camel-with-3-humps 6:12 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
Bolt, Ahhh -Freddie.

Have a soft spot for the lad and glad he found some success.

camel-with-3-humps 6:11 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
Syphilis

boltkunt 6:11 Mon Sep 10
Re: Manuel Pellegrini must convince West Ham he’s not yesterday’s man - Guardian article
Camel, he's no Freddie Sears ;-)

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