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Wils 3:49 Thu Dec 6
Jacob shit stirring again
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/06/west-ham-fan-supporters-board-democratic-football-lads-alliance

A representative on West Ham United’s newly formed Official Supporters’ Board has placed the club in an awkward position after expressing support for the Democratic Football Lads Alliance, a group condemned by anti-racism campaigners.

Greg Smith, who was present when the board held its first meeting with Karren Brady, West Ham’s vice-chairman, and other club officials last week, was asked by the Guardian whether his attendance at October’s DFLA march in London was compatible with his position as a fan representative.


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Smith, a season ticket holder at the London Stadium, replied: “I did attend the march in October – I’m opposed to acts of terrorism as a political means of effecting change and marched on that basis.”

Smith has previously expressed support for Mark Phillips, West Ham’s Under-18s coach who also attended the march. The club suspended Phillips and held an investigation to see whether his social media activity had broken club rules. He returned to his role in the academy last month after the club found there were not sufficient grounds to sack him. They had taken external legal advice from employment specialists.

“We were protesting about better treatment for homeless old soldiers as much as Islamic extremism,” Smith told the Sun in October. “I don’t know Mark Phillips but it makes him look like a condemned man before he has a fair trial. The suspension has been a big topic among a lot of West Ham fans who think it’s too much, too soon.”

Smith’s comments raise troubling questions for West Ham. The DFLA, a group formed of mainly middle-aged, white male football fans had planned a mass march from Park Lane to Whitehall. Organisers said on Facebook they were protesting against “returning jihadists”, “thousands of Awol migrants”, “rape gangs and groomers” and “veterans treated like traitors”. The demonstration descended into violence when anti-racist protesters attempted to block the DFLA’s route. There is no suggestion that Smith was involved in any disturbances.

The DFLA has been accused of spreading Islamophobia and of having links with far-right organisations. It was set up after the London Bridge terror attack in 2017, has called itself an anti-extremist group and has received support from Tommy Robinson, the former leader of the English Defence League. The Premier League warned clubs about the DFLA’s growing presence inside stadiums this year.

Smith, who was elected to the board to represent 1966 season ticket holders, also has links with the Real West Ham Fans Group, which was set up last season by Andy Swallow and Micky Morgan, founder members of the infamous unofficial Inter City Firm. West Ham were accused of failing to respond appropriately after the RWHFG orchestrated an online campaign against the former head of West Ham United Independent Supporters’ Association, a rival fan group.

Applications were anonymised and scored by an independent panel and representatives selected by them
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The RWHFG and WHUISA were part of a coalition of 15 fan groups that held meetings with Brady to discuss supporter discontent earlier this year. Smith is one of 18 members on the Official Supporters’ Board, which was set up to improve dialogue with the club following unrest over West Ham’s decision to leave Upton Park for the London Stadium. WHUISA has declined to take part.

The Guardian asked West Ham whether it was appropriate for Smith to remain on the board given his support for the DFLA and to explain the process which led to representatives being elected by an independent panel of four that included Sir Trevor Brooking. The club did not answer questions regarding whether it conducted background checks or reserved the right to veto elected members.

A West Ham spokesperson said: “Members of the Official Supporters’ Board are not appointed by the club, but by an independent panel. The process was open and available to all supporters to apply and applications were anonymised and scored by an independent panel and representatives selected by them. The supporters receiving the highest score in each area were selected as a supporter representative. We do not comment on individual members.”

West Ham received a complaint from a supporter about Smith’s place on the SAB last week. A member of supporter services responded: “Panel members were chosen based on their backgrounds within football, supporter experience or because they possessed great knowledge and passion for West Ham.”

Smith has stated his aim is to be “a conduit between supporters and the club so there’s a measured and manageable dialogue at all times”.

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Buster 6:26 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Classic Vexed.

Oh, and Steinberg is an utter fucking fist.

Wils 5:38 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Vexed if you're struggling with words there are plenty of places for you to seek help. Dyslexia is nothing to be embarrassed about. People go on to live full lives.

Vexed 5:35 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Yeah I read it. No I don't need a dictionary. Yes you're still a fucking peasant. I hope this answers your questions adequately Wils. Let me know if you'd like me to break it down a bit further for you.

Wils 5:24 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Vexed wrote...

Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Wils 5:03 Thu Dec 6

"My apologies, I should have said supports or defends rather than "are involved".

Happy now you fucking caveman?"

Supports? Defends? Do you need a dictionary to understand what those words mean? Or is it you still didn't (couldn't even? read what I said

british is best 5:13 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Who gives a fuck what the guardian think. fucking lib dem tossers.

Vexed 5:08 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Wils 5:03 Thu Dec 6

My apologies, I should have said supports or defends rather than "are involved".

Happy now you fucking caveman?

Wils 5:03 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Vexed wrote...

"And that in a nutshell is exactly what kind of embarrassing fuckwits are involved in this shit."

Involved in what shit Vexed? Did you read my posts carefully or are you just blurting out what ever comes into your head?

Vexed 5:00 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Ha ha, if you're not a racist you must be a popcorn munching middle class hooray Henry right Wils?

And that in a nutshell is exactly what kind of embarrassing fuckwits are involved in this shit.

balders 4:54 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Know him for years but he’s pushing he’s boubardies with normal fans the left wing cunt

Wils 4:43 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Vexed wrote...

Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Wils 4:24 Thu Dec 6

Maybe he just doesn't like fucking peasants and racists like you?

I think you are right. I think he thinks anyone who isn't buying into the middle-class popcorn-munching Pro-EU rainbow-laced conversion of its supporter base needs pushing out the club. And too many people, like you, are willing to bend over backwards to let them do it.

Good luck with your soulless plastic lifeless club when it's complete.

Lily Hammer 4:41 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Yet another article that mentions the anti-islamic extremist part of the DFLA agenda, but fails to mention their primary point was demanding an investigation into the missing files on paedos in Westminster/Whitehall, and fails to mention their defending of the rights of the Windrush families.

Smear campaign.

Vexed 4:26 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Wils 4:24 Thu Dec 6

Maybe he just doesn't like fucking peasants and racists like you?

Vexed 4:24 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Good on him. Would be good to rid the club of these fucking scumbags.

Wils 4:24 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Freedom of political association. You won't catch me at a DFLA rally. But you also wont catch me dictating what political party you can and cannot support.

If we are going to kick people out of positions how Labour supporters? Iraq war? Current anti-semitism problem.

The reason people like Jacob are picking on the DLFA supporters is because of anti working class snobbery that is currently rife in the Labour party of which I am almost certain his a supporter of.

factory seconds 4:21 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
being a top bod at the attempted club killers RWHFAG is the bigger crime to my mind. also the reason he likely got on the board.

purge the lot of them.

Lertie Button 4:15 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Personally I'd fuck anyone associated with DFLA out of the club, fucking racist cunts one and all

Dudley Moore 4:14 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Assume this is the same Greg Smith who set up the fundraising page for that so-called supporters action group. Was it ever established what happened to all of that money?

, 4:11 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Cannot see anything wrong in pointing out Greg Smith's associations with FLA or RWHFG other than it turned out the Fans group leaders were hand in glove with Sullivan.

Let's hope Smith does a good job for us fans, along with others, on the Supporters Board.

Alfs 4:09 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
As a massive West Ham fan Jacob has a better right to air his opinions about the club than most other journos. He used to write good match reports on here, too.

Fo the Communist 3:59 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Personally I think Smith's association with the RWHFG raises more questions over his suitability as a fans representative than his involvement (as far as it might go) with the DFLA.
As far as I know the DFLA has not threatened violence against West Ham supporters. Unlike the RWHFG.

Fo the Communist 3:59 Thu Dec 6
Re: Jacob shit stirring again
Personally I think Smith's association with the RWHFG raises more questions over his suitability as a fans representative than his involvement (as far as it might go) with the DFLA.
As far as I know the DFLA has not threatened violence against West Ham supporters. Unlike the RWHFG.

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