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Q: 2022/23 You are the Chairman what do you do with Moyes?
a. Stick with him obviously, he's delivered two good seasons back to back and will see us out of this dip in form
b. If we're still lingering around the bottom three by the start of the WC then that's the time to get rid
c. What are we waiting for 2 wins in the last 20 PL games is reason enough to sack him, go now
d. I've just got my new Orange & White 3rd Kit with Moyesinho on the back, I can't wait to wear it down to the supermarket, they call me Mr West Ham around here

Nurse Ratched 3:25 Sat Dec 15

This is a good read.

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Golden Oldie 2:27 Fri Dec 21
Re: Lockerbie
Crassus 7:27
"Interesting headline in today's Mirror"
Mirror Headline
"Lockerbie Confession: Terrorist admitted to family his Iran-backed group planted bomb on jet... not the Libyans"
Yup sounds about as likely as any seeded news story in the media before they announce another development in their endless war of 'terror'.

So it's definitely not the Libyans now the cabal have already murdered Gaddafi [anally raped on pre-watershed TV news reports if anyone cares to remember] and installed their much needed central bank there.

I suppose we'll have to take these new revelations from unnamed foreign intelligence agents as fact now that Trump has announced he's pulling out of Syria, considering he's best buddies with Netanyahu, there is no reason he'd pull out of Syria and remove their existing protection of FSA/ISIS unless he was told there's another planned invasion coming up.

southbankbornnbred 11:51 Fri Dec 21
Re: Lockerbie
I should point out, for absolute clarity and balance, that Thurman denies that (now common) interpretation of him being discredited as an 'expert'. He says he was not sacked after the pipe bomb case, and instead retired from the FBI. He also points to decades of service within the FBI's forensic labs. But doubts about him have remained ever since.

Westham67 11:45 Fri Dec 21
Re: Lockerbie
The new US "Whipping boy" is Iran funnily enough WMDs anyone ?

southbankbornnbred 11:36 Fri Dec 21
Re: Lockerbie
I stress again...

Megrahi was a known Libyan agent - of that there is little doubt.

But his conviction was based significantly on three pieces of 'forensic' related evidence.

a) The timing device used in the bomb. At first, the UK and US told the world the device was sold by a Swiss company exclusively in Libya. Years later, it was revealed the timers were freely available for purchase in Germany at the time.

b) The circuit board used in the bomb. The US claimed to have found fragments of the circuit board at the scene - possible, but why didn't the bigger and more regular British search crews find it? Regardless, years later the US finally went public with the fragments. There was just one problem: years afterwards, an independent expert said the circuit board fragment produced to convict Megrahi was most likely a piece from a circuit board that was not patented until 1991 - three years after the bombing.

c) The man it all comes back to: Thomas Thurman. The supposed 'expert' FBI forensic analyst. Thurman boasted that he was the forensic genius who managed to match/fit the circuit board fragment to the timing device found in the wreckage. There was just one problem. In 1995, Thurman was discovered to have effectively slanted evidence in a separate terrorist case involving a pipe bomb. He gave influential opinion in cases when he had no expertise on the issues at hand, and also referred key parts of forensic investigations to people not adequately qualified to carry them out.

FWIW, my personal view is that the German's arrested members of the Palestinian terror cell behind the bombing two months before Lockerbie. They had them. Two months later, members of the same cell executed a long-planned attack which murdered 270 people. They had been operating under the noses of European authorities, the FBI/CIA and others at the behest of Iran.

For whatever reason - and we can only speculate - this did not fit with US foreign police aims, and blame shifted towards an easier whipping boy: Libya.

southbankbornnbred 11:20 Fri Dec 21
Re: Lockerbie
Khreesat is thought by many informed sources to have been involved in the plot. His daughter - the source of the story in today's Mirror - is clearly not going to implicate her father.

But the general point the daughter is making is understood, by many genuinely in the know, to be the most likely truth: that Iran ordered the bombing and paid a Palestinian anti-PLO faction to carry out the murders.

What the Mirror have got today is an interview with the daughter of one of the men suspected as having been involved, attempting to clear her dad of blame, while acknowledging the involvement of Iran/Palestinian terror groups.

Khreesat was a member of the cell arrested in Germany two months before the bombing, one of whom had a bomb in his car which was almost identical to the bomb used to blow up the plane - right down to the same Toshiba cassette recorder into which the Lockerbie bomb was fitted.

Today's Mirror interview is a classic. 'Yes, it was my dad's terror group who did it - but my lovely dad, a member of said terror group, was in no involved.'

Nurse Ratched 9:21 Fri Dec 21
Re: Lockerbie
Yep. A bad business.

Crassus 7:27 Fri Dec 21
Re: Lockerbie
Interesting headline in today's Mirror

gph 11:57 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie
Geese all over Ratchedville are traumatised by her boos.

Nurse Ratched 11:54 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie
100% slavish devotion or shut yer cake hole.

Ronald_antly 11:52 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie
As much as an admirer I am of yours, Matron, I found it rather derivative to be honest.

Nurse Ratched 11:46 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie
Thank you, Crassus.

zebthecat 10:18 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie
One of my Dad's colleagues was on this flight.
I remember hearing about it on the radio on the way to playing a gig. Put a bit of dampener on the night.

Crassus 9:16 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie
You are on fire woman, outstanding!

13 Brentford Rd 9:05 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie
I knew someone on this flight.

southbankbornnbred 2:04 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie
Good work, nurse!

Itchy - I can't recall there being much disagreement about the number of deaths once a certain period of investigation had passed. The passenger logs were quickly updated after a couple of people checked-in luggage but missed the flight (one was with his family in the airport bar and got a bit drunk). Local police also quickly worked out that 11 people died on the ground in the village.

But there might have been some initial confusion, granted. Always the case when these things happen, unfortunately.

Ronald_antly 12:31 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie
I know that was an outrageous typo, Matron, but don't be sad.

Nurse Ratched 12:10 Thu Dec 20
Re: Lockerbie

Mart O 11:45 Wed Dec 19
Re: Lockerbie
*sccops up knickers*

Nurse Ratched 11:17 Wed Dec 19
Re: Lockerbie
*drops curtsey*

gank 11:15 Wed Dec 19
Re: Lockerbie
Cleverly done. I can't complain.

Nurse Ratched 10:16 Wed Dec 19
Re: Lockerbie
They flew so high
They* reached the sky
Then like my dreams...

*yes, I know that's 'the wrong line'

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