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Sven Roeder 11:01 Tue Feb 19
John Motson censured by Talksport for ‘racist gaffe’
Seems during the AFC Wimbledon game he described Millwall striker Tom Elliott as ‘big , Black & brave’.
I understand Elliott is quite tall and dark skinned. I am unaware of his level of personal courage

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, 3:35 Thu Feb 21
Re: John Motson censured by Talksport for ‘racist gaffe’
Snareston, as the name of the youngster was given first his colour information was rendered unnecessary.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:21 Thu Feb 21
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SnarestoneIron 1:12 Thu Feb 21

I'm reliably informed by a poster below that it's easy enough just to say, 'we are on the lookout for a medium-sized chap wearing a bright yellow waistcoat who will hand himself in if you shout, 'Oi! Dave''.

SnarestoneIron 1:12 Thu Feb 21
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So, Motty is racist but the if the police are looking for a suspect, it's ok to describe somebody as black? A recent appeal from Derbyshire police:-

We’re concerned for the welfare of 13-year-old Thapelo Swain from Littleover, who was reported missing earlier today (February 20).

He was last seen leaving his home on Cloudwood Close at 4pm on Tuesday, February 19.

Thapelo is described as being BLACK, 5ft 4ins, of slim build and with short black hair.

Crassus 9:00 Thu Feb 21
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Long Lost
I hear you. Funny enough I had this very discussion with a bloke at work, get on well with him and he is black
So I asked genuinely if referring as you describe would ause offence if it were said as a means of mere identification, he said not
We did agree that identifying others as the fat bald bloke or the bird with the big tits might not make it over the modern linguistic fence
Have to say though, I would refrain however reassured by him

Far Cough 12:08 Thu Feb 21
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Full clip here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZEg4gYX9mg

Far Cough 12:07 Thu Feb 21
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I( loved it when Peter Sellers as (Chief) Inspector Clouseau, referred to Kato as a "greedy little yellow Pimp" on learning that he turned his house into a brothel

Would that language fly nowadays?

aldgate 12:03 Thu Feb 21
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drunk old sheepskin

gph 11:58 Wed Feb 20
Re: John Motson censured by Talksport for ‘racist gaffe’
These things can happen by accident.

In a kick-about, I shouted "Mark the yellow man", meaning the bloke in the Brazil shirt.

Unfortunately, he was Chinese, and I very quickly became the red man (embarrassment)

Long Lost 11:24 Wed Feb 20
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Your right mate I don’t. I just don’t see how me describing someone I don’t know so that someone else knows who I’m talking about and using the adjective white or black is being racist.

J.Riddle 10:16 Wed Feb 20
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Not quite up there with big Ron, but Black, dark, coloured? Come on even Motson knows it's Afro-Caribbean.

boleyn8420 9:43 Wed Feb 20
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FFS long lost that's the epitome of casual racism you don't know your even doing it. How about tall bloke over there name is stan, or that little bloke just shout Davey.

Not ducking hard is it

Long Lost 8:34 Wed Feb 20
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Boleyn8420

I used to manage a very racially diverse team in London and often used the terms white black Asian to describe people / visitors I was talking about as in he’s a tall white bloke or he’s a bald black bloke. Not sure how that’s different to Motty or how using colour as an adjective is racist

Iron Duke 2:04 Wed Feb 20
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Any Old Iron 11:29 Tue Feb 19
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Obviously, describing a black bloke as black is beyond the pale.

Pale? You racist bastard!

boleyn8420 1:54 Wed Feb 20
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Im 62 and was bought up on a sink council estate, before they were even called sink council estates and the mix on there meant you either had a fight or became mates, didn't mater race, creed or colour and quite often both happened, so I never, unlike most of my generation it seems along with quite a few on here as well having viewed some of the comments, quite got the whole racist thing.

I have never described anyone using black as a way of defining someone's characteristics as Motson did, it IS casual racism, whether he or you like it or not. I have called many black people a cunt or a wanker because they were acting like one but NEVER a black cunt or black wanker because it didn't enter my thought process. They are just people, full stop. They have acted cuntish or wankerish but all people can behave like that.

So i'm not a snowflake in any way shape or form and you cannot try and justify his comment by suggesting that that it is the reason it has been bought up, it hasn't, it IS casual racism no matter how you want to apologize for it though.

Northern Sold 12:16 Wed Feb 20
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Russ of the BML 12:10 Wed Feb 20

Ha Ha.... Superb !!

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:15 Wed Feb 20
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And no white person should ever describe John Barnes and Paul Ince as black when wondering why they can't get a job in management.

They can describe them as shit or useless, though.

Russ of the BML 12:10 Wed Feb 20
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I wonder if Motson ever referred to Scott Minto as "small, white and cowardly"??

Northern Sold 12:04 Wed Feb 20
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Motson racist??? Oh fucking behave... hardly Alf Garnet is he??

CROCK OF COCK SNOT

Davenport 12:03 Wed Feb 20
Re: John Motson censured by Talksport for ‘racist gaffe’
No need whatsoever to say the word black when describing him. Wouldn't describe a white player using the term big, white and brave would he?

Sven Roeder 11:47 Wed Feb 20
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I think we have moved from not attaching colour or ethnicity to abuse (ie the Mo Salah type thing) to not being able to mention colour at all.
The comment was obviously not meant in any derogatory manner but does mean that is irrelevant.
I’m guessing referring to James Collins as GINGER or any mention of hair colour is also offensive.

nerd 10:58 Wed Feb 20
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Racism is the belief your race is superior to another and discrimination on these beliefs. Words aren't actually racist but can be used to project such beliefs. Motty is not racist one bit, nor is what he said it's ridiculous ,it just shows how thick we gave become in this world. Due to beliefs Judaism is racism at its best, yet no one points it out as you will be anti Semitic and you don't want that. This world really does my head in. Sticks and stones oh fuck off.

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