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Any Old Iron 11:39 Wed Apr 10
Mainstream TV drama losing the plot.
Tonight across BBC 1, 2 and ITV they all have dramas with female leads and storylines from the female pov. All dull as ditchwater and I'm guessing not watched by any blokes, and not too many women.

Can you imagine a scripwriter trying to pitch something like the Sweeney to a commissioning editor these days. They'd be shown the door.

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Hermit Road 6:28 Sat Apr 13
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To be fair, Alan Partridge is probably the platonic form of white, middle-aged men in the eyes of most at the beeb.

Bit of strange one to pull out when defending the beeb though.

As for the complete gibberish that women haven’t been represented on TV over the years, it’s complete gibberish.

Wherever there’s been a dopey/buffoon of a geezer, there’s been a wise, patient woman.

Not that I give a shit really as I don’t watch much modern telly on account of me being averse to taking moral lectures from the Notting Hill set in showbizz. To read what some of you eunuchs write though, you’d think that the Sultan of Brunei had been running programming in British TV for the past 50 years.

Spandex Sidney 5:37 Sat Apr 13
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I can't be bothered by reading through all this but I am hoping the general mood is that it's just bringing everything up to date.

Some drama is great, some mediocre, some rubbish but the opinion I form of them doesn't have much to do with how many women are in it. I do think we should see more females in drama. Women do make up over half the population you know!

If you fancy, there's plenty of 70's telly on the internet for you AOI, go watch that if it bothers you.

Alfs 5:16 Sat Apr 13
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Sydney_Iron 11:50 Fri Apr 12

That's not quite true, is it? Both Alan Partridge and Warren were about white, middle-aged men as are countless other BBC comedies that have been made over the recent years, such as Detectorists, Don't Forget the Driver, Not Going Out etc etc.

They also churn out excellent drama like Line of Duty, The Bodyguard and Les Miserables.

Maybe try and get your facts right before making a point
and adding falsities to back it up.

BRANDED 2:04 Sat Apr 13
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Some of you might like this too

The brilliant Shane Meadows and Jack Thorne are reuniting with This Is England’s every-bit-as-brilliant actor Stephen Graham in this four part drama. In production for Channel 4, The Virtues is the story of Joseph (played by Graham), a troubled man who travels to Ireland to confront demons from a childhood spent in the care system. Meadows describes the drama as taking “the biblical, almost apocalyptic levels of revenge witnessed in Dead Man’s Shoes, along with the bittersweet humour from This is England” and creating something brand new.

BRANDED 2:02 Sat Apr 13
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The BBC has put out
Line of Duty
The Night manager
Luther
Killing Eve
Peaky Blinders

The Looming Towers starts in a couple of weeks. Its mostly blokes

Some of you might like the sound of this coming up:

Filmmaker Gareth Evans came to everybody’s attention with 2011 Indonesian-set action flick The Raid. Now he’s making his TV debut with this Sky Atlantic/HBO co-production. Gangs Of London takes place in a version of modern London torn apart by international criminal organisations. Expect assassinations, intrigue, expertly choreographed fight scenes and full-muscled action.

Fifth Column 1:54 Sat Apr 13
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Dull as ditchwater?

My whole life I thought the phrase was, dull as dishwater... like the dirty water when you do washing up.

You live and learn.

Darlo Debs 11:37 Sat Apr 13
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JAFKD couldn't agree more.

Hermit Road 11:34 Sat Apr 13
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Maybe they could make the female judge and the lady she dented in the case below a subject of a TV drama. Could have an overarching theme of the Gender Jail Gap, a subtext of how patriarchy moves in mysterious ways.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-47914832?ns_campaign=bbcnews&ocid=socialflow_twitter&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social

Sydney_Iron 11:50 Fri Apr 12
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Have noticed that the better and more cutting edge programmes are now more and more being made by the likes of Netflix.

Can you imagine the likes of the BBC making After life these days, a program about a white middle aged man? They are more interested in not offending and being culturally diverse, so comedy is slap stick at best, dramas are often dull and long winded and often about minorities or have a PC type message.

Sniper 10:43 Fri Apr 12
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The little old racist prick is trying to dictate who we apologise to now is he?

Jesus that man is as shameless as he is useless

Alfs 9:10 Thu Apr 11
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I worked as a tv scriptwriter for ten years and I only came across female writers on Holloakes. The other shows I wrote on were all written by men. I'd say it's about a 90/10 split of male and female writers so it's not surprising they want to offer more chances for women.

joe royal 8:55 Thu Apr 11
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I’ve been to The Golden Temple in Amritsar , very impressive.

East Auckland Hammer 8:12 Thu Apr 11
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That would actually be better than Eastenders.

Sven Roeder 5:53 Thu Apr 11
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Alex
Catering for all is in their charter isn’t it?
Which is why we get all sorts of banal nonsense

I’d replace EastEnders with a lecture series on Albanian ballet in the 19th century myself but they need to cater to all the riff raff by law it seems

Capitol Man 5:53 Thu Apr 11
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Any Old Iron 11:39 Wed Apr 10
Mainstream TV drama losing the plot.

Disgusted from Tunbridge Wells.

Any Old Iron 4:24 Thu Apr 11
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There seem to be a lot of virtue signalling, politically correct, screaming queens on this site these days. But then I shouldn't hurt their feelings should I.
If you lot think that the feminisation of the UK is a good thing then you're out of your tiny minds.

Alex Bunbury 2:01 Thu Apr 11
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In this day and age the BBC have to attempt to cater for all needs and you could argue that they find room for something like Peaky Blinders while at the same time having something like Pose.

BRANDED 12:21 Thu Apr 11
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Or turn it off and go down the pub. Or read a good Western.

JustAFatKevinDavies 12:15 Thu Apr 11
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its just redressing the balance really, if it really stresses you out theres literally decades and decades of programmes exclusively from a standpoint you may find more suitable. Also tv makers are always looking for new angles and ways to do stuff, exploring the female standpoint is a good way of trying to develop new ideas, rather than hash up something which has been done before.

with tv more than anything else, if you don't like it, just turn over!

BRANDED 12:15 Thu Apr 11
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Oh the fucking irony.

Eddie B 12:11 Thu Apr 11
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I'm looking forward to Daniel Craig starring in the upcoming biopic of Shaka Zulu.

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