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chav_corner 10:31 Thu Apr 11
Hammers United.-What do we want.
Paul Colborne's Interview with American Hammers TV.
https://youtu.be/D5wO7vPsN8o



HAMMERS UNITED.-WHAT DO WE WANT?

As you know we have written to the club seeking a meeting.There are so many issues to raise but in particular we will be highlighting the following:-

Ticket Prices and Season Ticket renewals.

Some bands have seen major increases.Seats have been moved from one band to another(without notifying those affected).Renewal date brought forward.Those not renewing corporate tickets not being able to downgrade but forced to go to the back of the waiting list.And as for the waiting list what a shambles that is with tickets seemingly randomly issued.
We have had others better qualified than us produce a full report which will form the basis of any discussion with the club.

The London Stadium and Match Experience.

Well where do you start.We have been inundated with things our members want changed.Many issues stem from inadequate and frankly very bad stewarding.Improving this must be the priority.we are all sick to death of heavy handed stewarding,away fans in West Ham sections and stewards cheering when the opposition score.The Club have a duty of care to see that it’s supporters are treated fairly and at the same time be able to watch the match in a safe environment.It is not good enough to say the stewards are not their responsibility.-The well being of THEIR supporters is.
There are many other things supporters want changed but we feel the stewarding is the most important and will concentrate our efforts accordingly.However one reoccurring complaint which might be easily resolved is the lack of refreshment facilities in the upper tier.At half time It is impossible for supporters to get down the stairs,buy food and get back up again before kick off.Is there room on the upper tiers to add a refreshment area?

Memorial Gardens.

A very emotive subject.-And so it should be.
Supporters have loved ones here and understandably get very upset when the gardens are neglected .There is no doubt that the gardens have not been maintained regularly.Plans are in place for major improvements.We will keep an eye on developments.

Mascots.

West Ham charge more than any other Premier League club.Neil Taylor at LLTB.has raised this and been in contact with the club on the matter.it is about time he got a bit of support on this.
Help for Disabled Supporters.
To be fair West Ham seem to be trying hard to help supporters.Julie Pidgeon deals with accessibility issues and we have heard nothing but praise for her.There does seem to be one major issue in that the shuttle buses are held back until the away fans are dispersed.-Leading to a long wait.This is not good and needs to be addressed.
Champions Place Stones.
Another emotive subject .-And again so it should be.
The stones are becoming dirty and it is getting hard to see the inscriptions.This is after a relatively short space of time.If they are not cleaned and properly maintained the whole concept and meaning of them will have been a waste of time.-This needs to be addressed and should not be difficult for the club to resolve.

Erradication of our heritage.

Where do we start? Lee Rogers wrote a great piece on this which is on our facebook page.Says it all really.
West ham had a passionate and loyal fan base which was the envy of most clubs.-without doubt the best fans in London and perhaps the country.The fanbase didn’t need gentrifying.-The club should have played to it’s strengths.-For example maybe having a pop up Boleyn Pub in the ground.-And a pop up Nathans and Ercans.Many passionate long standing supporters have walked away.-feeling they are no longer wanted.We would like to see the club reach out to these supporters and try and get them back.
Many long term supporters feel that they just aren’t wanted there anymore.The club can put pictures etc up celebrating our heritage and that helps.-But what we want is to be made to feel welcome.We look forward to the imput of our members at the meeting of April 20th.-Especially so on what we put to the club on this.

Our away supporters.

The club give them no help whatsoever.As a committee we have 3 suggestions listed below which we want to put to the club.
!.The club offer next to no help with away travel.Our Supporters have solved this themselves with the brilliant Hornchurch coaches and Ironworks tours. However we would like to see train travel be put on for one off night games to long distance places such as Liverpool and Manchester in the league cup in recent years when no scheduled trains back were available.Trains are very expensive but for cup games the Club get a cut of the gate money.Manchester United the other year was around £60 a pop so every additional fan West Ham took they would have got nearly £20 which could have offset train costs.The situation probably arises once a year,if that,but we would like to see the club look into it.
2.Watford and Newcastle have a reciprocal arrangement whereby each gives the others fans £5 off admission.We would like to see West Ham contact both and see if this could be arranged.
3.Another suggestion is that when somebody has booked say 6 away games in one season then the club should make a gesture to thank them for their loyalty.-Perhaps a voucher for a free pie and a pint
One way or another we would like to see some help for our great away following.If any of our members have any other ideas we will of course take them into consideration.
Investment in the Playing Squad.
We encourage the club to invest as much as possible to give West Ham United the best possible chance of success on the pitch.They did invest heavily last Summer but investment in the years before has been woefully inadequate and we still have an aging and unbalanced squad.Sustained investment is required.Hopefully the club will match it’s obvious competitors in Leicester,Wolves,Everton .We do not expect it to match the investment of the top 6,that would be unfair.Rumours are that the Club will have a net spend of around £25 million this Summer.We hope these rumours are unfounded.This figure is obviously totally unrealistic in today’s Premier League.

These points will be put to our members on April 20th for endorsement.
We look forward to seeing as many of you there as possible.
Thank You.
Greg Hobbs(Secretary).

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chav_corner 5:36 Fri Nov 1
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.




Mr Peter Gillièron

Chairman

Fairplay & Social Responsibility Committee

Route de Genève 46

Nyon 1260



I am sorry but the links won't open on this forum.Letter in full below.-Thanks.

Dear Peter,

Re: Formal Complaint to UEFA regarding West Ham United FC

We write to you in good faith in your position as Chairman of the Fairplay and Social Responsibility Committee, to lodge a formal complaint about our Club, West Ham United FC, acting in breach of Article 35 of the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations as well as other requirements and guidance by refusing to engage with any independent supportergroupings.

UEFA’s Regulations have been further enforced in the UK by way of the Football Governance guidelines and Premier League supporter liaison requirements [link]. All echo the importance UEFA attaches to members listening to their supporters’ concernsand having proper systems of engagement in place.

The wording of UK Government guidelines are clear and express. At paragraph 38 they state:

‘The Government believes that every Club should officially recognize the relevant supporters groups or trusts and keep an open dialogue with them. They should hold regular and annual general meetings at which these groups are invited to takepart and at which appropriate financial and other information can be shared and consulted upon’.

West Ham have specifically refused to engage in such dialogue, hold such meetings, share such information or properly consult.

UEFA has also fully endorsed the Supporters Direct Europe (SDE) 2013 report ‘Improving Football Governance Through Supporter Involvement’ and West Ham’scoercive model of engagement fails to comply with either the letter or the spirit of these measures.

We write as Hammers United (HU) an independent supporters group representing five thousand members, to make this complaint. In so doing we are supported by the Football Supporters’ Association, (the respected UK wing of SDE of whom we are a fullyaffiliated member), and a host of other West Ham fan sites, TV channels, podcasts and bloggers.

All of us agree that our Club should hold constructive dialogue with independent formal groups and that the Official Supporters’ Board (OSB) the Club have created is inadequate for these purposes.

UEFA requires all affiliated Clubs to follow the spirit and intention behind Article 35. It was designed to allow football supporters insight into affairs that affect them and to have a voice – ‘proper and constructive dialogue’. West Ham’sboard refuse to engage directly with ourselves or indeed any other fan grouping outside of their OSB.

We enclose copies of communication with Mr Jake Heath, the Club’s employed Supporter Liason Officer (SLO), which expressly states that the Club will only hold discourse with the OSB and through himself as the chair of such.

The OSB consists of representatives chosen by Club appointees. It is not democratic, no member is elected by supporters and significant issues that concern and affect attending fans are either unspoken or pass without transparency. The Club hasexperienced well publicised problems in the recent past with issues such as stewarding, fixtures, travel, price increases, waiting lists, ticket allocations etc all being prominent. Most recently the Club have announced a partnership with Socios, a companyadvertising supporter engagement in return for the buying of tokens, whilst at the same time refusing to engage in dialogue with independent groups and choosing to bypass the OSB. All of these important issues and more should be matters constructively discussedbetween the Club, its attending supporters, and their independent and democratically elected representatives.

The OSB and Club are intrinsically linked, and the OSB do not constitute an independent, formal or democratic body as envisaged by the Regulations. Instead it is a coercive construct designed to give the appearance of compliance to the minimumterms. It is noted that it would appear that it is only West Ham, Hull City FC and now Newcastle United amongst League Clubs in England that are refusing to directly engage with their independent supporter groups. They should of course be encouraging positiveengagement and acting in an inclusive fashion rather than continually trying to close down more difficult questions.

Should they be needed we can give multiple examples of specific supporter issues that West Ham have not properly addressed and that either have not been raised by the OSB or, due to its structure, have been unable to be raised.

We would ask UEFA to urge West Ham United to formally engage in open discussion at a senior level with our independent and democratically elected supporter’s group, rather than exclusively with their own informal and undemocratic body. We arewilling to sit down together with other groups fitting the criteria to have a constructive dialogue and progress together the real issues which most affect our members and all attending supporters.

We have great faith in UEFA look forward to your formal reply and are hopeful that your intervention will enable our members, and all West Ham United fans to have their voices heard.




Yours sincerely,







Lee Rogers

Joint Secretary

Hammers United

chav_corner 5:06 Fri Nov 1
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
Hi Paul - please see our coverage here: https://thefsa.org.uk/news/west-ham-supporters-board-undemocratic-says-fan-group/



We'll include it in our newsletter to FSA members this afternoon.




Kind regards,




Liam




FSA

Loxfordfella 9:57 Fri Nov 1
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
West Ham refusing to meet with Supporters bodies.
We continue our campaign to get West Ham round the table. Remember, out of the 91 league clubs, only West Ham United and Hull City refuse to meet their supporters.
Below is a link to letter we have sent to UEFA. We have written similar letters to The Premier League and DCMS as West Ham are also ignoring their laid down guidelines.
We have the full support of the Football Supporters Association and already 2 MPs have promised support. We will get support in the Press and on radio.
We really need the support of the West Ham family. Success would not only mean Hammers United at the negotiating table but would lead the way for other democratic West Ham fan groups. Perhaps then we could look at some sort of umbrella group to raise issues with the club and hopefully work together to improve things for West Ham supporters.
We ask our members to please support us in every way. Those who haven’t joined yet it would be great to have you alongside us.
You can join on Facebook, using the join form on our website ( www.hammersunited.com/join ) or by e-mailing us at membership@hammersunited.com
Thank You.
The full letter can be read at www.hammersunited.com/west-ham-refusing-to-engage-with-sup…/
www.hammersunited.com

chav_corner 9:42 Fri Nov 1
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
Max.We asked for it to be unpinned so readers could see when something new went up.Something that well interest you is going up this morning.-Cheers mate.

Mex Martillo 8:35 Fri Nov 1
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
Why did this get unpinned?
I got a few emails about some real official stuff with Government registered supporters club group and UEFA. Hammers United really look to be going in a good direction. I cannot see the club avoiding meeting them for much longer. I hope everyone has registered?

chav_corner 5:48 Tue Oct 29
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.

Hammers United Christmas/New Year Party. December 28th.

To confirm the party will be held at The Plaistow Community Centre which will be open from 10.00 am until midnight. The music will start one hour after the finish of the West Ham match.

We are printing tickets priced £5.00 each which will be sold strictly on a first come/first served basis. They are now on sale and can be ordered through Bubbles or Andy Payne or by Emailing your request to party@hammersunited.com

We have been promised a signed West Ham shirt .Everyone at the party will be put in a draw to win this.

All proceeds will go to Isla. Ann Harris has kindly let us have the hall free of charge, Long Live The Boleyn printed the tickets free of charge and Gary Penfold designed them free of charge. We are also hoping to get the music free of charge and if so we will be able to give over £1000 to Isla.

It will be a good night.-See you there!

Thanks.

Hammers United Committee.

www.hammersunited.com







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MaryMillingtonsGhost 7:53 Mon Oct 28
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
chav_corner 10:06

Was it the delusional duo of Hugh and Sean by any chance?
Excellent letter btw, best of luck.

Loxfordfella 7:28 Mon Oct 28
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
A very well constructed letter. I know a lot of time, effort and expertise went into it.

Peterboroughiron 1:13 Sun Oct 27
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
There does appear to be a lot of delusional new fans about at the moment

chav_corner 10:06 Sat Oct 26
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
We were leafletting today.Most agree with our point of view,some sign up.-But we had two today that really take the biscuit. ' Why are you unhappy,we are going to come top 6 this year.'We replied that our main issues were history,heritage,tradition.-And pointed out that the expenditure on players this year was not sufficient and we thought 11th was a more likely position.They said we were crazy,the club had spent an absolute fortune on players.Karen Brady was horrible but Gold and Sullivan were good guys doing a good job.At this point we gave up and changed the conversation.

chav_corner 11:18 Fri Oct 25
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
West Ham refusing to engage with Supporters bodies.

Today we start our campaign in earnest to get West Ham round the table.-Remember,only West Ham and Hull out of the 91 league clubs refuse to meet their supporters.

We have written similar letters to The Premier League and UEFA as West Ham are also ignoring their laid down guidelines.

We have the full support of the Football Supporters Association and already 2 MPs have promised support.We will get support in the Press and on radio.

We really need the support of the West Ham family.Success would not only mean Hammers United at the negotiating table but would lead the way for other democratic West Ham fan’s groups .Perhaps then we could look at some sort of umbrella group to raise issues with the club and hopefully work together to improve things for West Ham supporters.

We ask our members to please support in every way.Those who havnt joined yet it would be great to have you alongside us.You can join on facebook or by Emailing us at membership@hammersunited.com-Thank You.


Department of Culture, Media & Sport
100 Parliament Street,
London
SW1A 2BQ 13th September 2019
enquiries@culture.gov.uk

Dear Sir/Madam,
Complaint to DCMS regarding West Ham United FC
We write to formally complain about our Club, West Ham United FC, acting in breach of the Football Governance guidelines as set by the DCMS select committee response (HC792-1) in 2011.

We write in good faith, in lieu of approaching an MP and asking that the matter be referred to the Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman, and we therefore politely ask for your consideration.

We write as Hammers United (HU) www.hammersunited.com an independent supporters group representing some five thousand West Ham United supporters. In so doing we have the support of The Football Supporters’ Federation, with whom we are a fully affiliated member.

Our complaint is that the Club has repeatedly and continues to refuse to engage with any supporter body outside of one of their own making, namely the Official Supporters Board (OSB). We have been asking the Club to engage in direct dialogue with our group seeking to represent our members to discuss matters of most relevance to them and the broader attending fanbase. To date they have repeatedly refused such, explicitly stating that representations can only be made through their club mandated OSB.

We attach copies of correspondence with the Supporter Services Manager, Mr Jake Heath, which you will note conclude with him repeating on behalf of the Club that the OSB is the only organisation that they will have any dialogue with.

West Ham are bound by Article 35 of the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/02/26/77/91/2267791_DOWNLOAD.pdf as well as other requirements and guidance with regards engagement with independent supporter groupings. Article 35 obliges affiliated Clubs to have ‘proper and constructive dialogue’ with fans and was designed to allow them to have an insight into affairs that affect them.
UEFA’s Regulations were further enforced in the UK by way of the Football Governance guidelines https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/78395/Football_governance_15427_Cm_8207_2.pdf
The recommendations of the DCMS’ Select Committee’s response (HC792-1) to the initial committee enquiry headed by Professor Richard Giulianotti (FG 29) in 2011 is explicit in its support of football club engagement with relevant supporter groups in its guidance to the Premier and Football Leagues.

The wording and intention of these Government guidelines are clear, expressing recognition of the problematic and avoidable challenges caused by recalcitrant attitudes at Football Clubs whose choice to disassociate and not properly listen to their supporters and the solutions offered by having open dialogue.
At paragraph 38 they state:
‘The Government believes that every Club should officially recognise the relevant supporters groups or trusts and keep an open dialogue with them. They should hold regular and annual general meetings at which these groups are invited to take part and at which appropriate financial and other information can be shared and consulted upon’.

West Ham have specifically refused to engage in such dialogue, hold such meetings, share such information or properly consult with independent formal groups and the OSB is inadequate for these purposes.

The OSB consists of representatives chosen by Club appointees. It is not democratic; no member is elected by supporters and significant issues that concern and affect attending fans are either unspoken or pass without transparency. The Club has experienced well publicised problems in the recent past with issues such as the management of the stadium, stewarding, fixtures, travel, price increases, waiting lists, ticket allocations etc all being prominent.

Most recently the Club have announced a partnership with Socios, a company advertising supporter engagement in return for the buying of tokens, whilst at the same time refusing to engage in dialogue with independent groups.

The OSB and Club are inseparable from each other and the OSB does not constitute an independent, formal or democratic body as envisaged by the Regulations or Guidelines.
Instead it is merely a construct, a reincarnation if you will from the ashes of its previously failed and well documented incarnation, the Supporters Association Board (SAB), designed to give the appearance of compliance to the minimum terms.
It is noted that it appears that it is only West Ham United FC and Hull City FC amongst League Clubs in England that are refusing to directly engage with their independent supporters’ groups. This demonstrates a seemingly intransigent attitude to their supporters and the independent supporter’s groups they have chosen to represent them, as well as demonstrating disregard to the Government guidelines.

We strongly believe the club should be embracing the guidelines and encouraging engagement, acting in an inclusive fashion rather than continually trying to shut down or wholly avoid more difficult questions in club-created and club-controlled forums.

Should they be needed we can give multiple examples of specific supporter issues that West Ham have not properly addressed and that either have not been raised by the OSB or, due to its structure, have been unable to be raised.

We would ask the DCMS to urge West Ham United Football Club to engage formally in open discussion at a senior level with our independent and democratic supporter group, in keeping with the spirit of the Government guidelines, rather than exclusively with their own informal and undemocratic body. We are willing to sit down together with other groups fitting the criteria to have a constructive dialogue and progress together the issues which most affect us as attending supporters.

We thank you in advance for your kind assistance in this most frustrating situation we find ourselves in and look forward to your formal response.

Should the Club continue to refuse to engage post your anticipated intervention, it is our intention pursuant to your formal complaint procedures to raise this concerning matter formally with an MP.

Yours faithfully,

Lee Rogers
Joint Secretary
www.hammersunited.com

Peterboroughiron 8:58 Fri Oct 25
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
Hammers United are a group of die hard West Ham fans who have put in the miles over decades they realize and understand that we have lost our home our heritage and our soul
Probably in a big way down to the apathy of the fans
Don’t let it happen again be under no illusions
The West Ham board don’t give a fuck about any of you and want all you old school fans gone
They want a stadium full of tourist and day trippers
Hammers United is a chance for us to have our say and try and keep some form of West Ham family alive
Don’t get bogged down in the politics Hammers United have to do this through the correct channels if we want to have a voice in the future so Snide Pissy comments are not going to help
Remember this is your West Ham so offer your support there won’t be many more chances

Loxfordfella 7:01 Fri Oct 25
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
Thanks One Iron, knowing we've got your support means a lot.

one iron 5:55 Fri Oct 25
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
I would like to wish this group all the best in their quest to make things better for all westham fans,after what went on with the last group some fans fill let down,none more than me,but this group are in it for you.Iive known chav corner for over 45 years hes westham to his bones,good luck lads

chav_corner 12:57 Fri Oct 25
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
Eggbert.I don't know the facts tbh but they seem confident the flexible rail tickets will be achieved.We shall have to wait and see.

Eggbert Nobacon 12:52 Fri Oct 25
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
The FSA.would lobby all political parties with it’s fan manifesto including more redistribution of football wealth to lower leagues,safe standing,flexible rail tickets,governance on clubs in crisis and diversity issues..


how will that work, it's up to the individual rail companies that a private firms and do not and will not give one flying toss about when Sky announce fixtures

Hermit Road 11:47 Fri Oct 25
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
I said they sound like a right bunch of Corbynites with all that redistribution of wealth and diversity bollocks.

chav_corner 10:42 Fri Oct 25
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
Hermit Road.What the FSA trying to help supporters has to do with Jeremy Corbyn I don't know.Our little group has grown to 5500.We will continue to do our best to make things better for west Ham supporters.

Hermit Road 10:12 Fri Oct 25
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
The FSA sound like a right bunch of Corbynites.

I was on the fence about this Hammers Utd until now but if that's the side they want to put themselves on then hopefully they stay a fringe little group who drink together before the game and nothing more.

Lily Hammer 7:34 Tue Oct 22
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
From Hammers United

Meeting of F.S.A. Premier League network.October 17th

Our Joint Secretary and Chairman represented Hammers United as we are now fully affiliated to the FSA.-It is such a change to deal with people that for once are on the side of the supporters.

The FSA.lobbies on supporters’ behalf and on occasions can make a difference.-As in when FA Cup final ticket allocations were increased.

There was discussion on many topics but the ones most pertinent to our members were as below:-

V.A.R.

There were concerns that decisions were not being conveyed clearly to fans within stadiums contrary to Premier League commitments.

Kick off times.

The Premier League had missed the last announcement by six days with obvious consequences for travelling supporters.The FSA.was campaigning for introduction of flexible rail tickets,IE.for the match not the date.

General Election.

The FSA.would lobby all political parties with it’s fan manifesto including more redistribution of football wealth to lower leagues,safe standing,flexible rail tickets,governance on clubs in crisis and diversity issues..

European Super League.

The FSA.expected to be part of any consultation and would oppose.

FA Cup.

The FSA.would be meeting the F.A. and would be lobbying for reduced semi-final and final prices and increased allocation.They had been successful in both in the past.Travel problems with Friday night K.O.s were also discussed.-Also that 5th round ties were to be played midweek.

Socios.

West Ham’s proposed moneterisation of fan engagement was noted with concern and the FSA seeking more information.Tross will be reporting separately on Socios and we will post on our website and facebook page accordingly.

Governance.

FSA.would be campaigning rigourously to prevent ‘another Bury’.

Anyone seeking a more detailed report please email us on secretary@hammersunited.com

We are doing our best to improve things for West ham supporters.Please check out our website



.....Good work, chaps. Keep on keeping on.

chav_corner 11:10 Tue Oct 22
Re: Hammers United.-What do we want.
A letter received at Hammers United HQ.this morning.


What are our members talking about?

Closed shop?

It has become apparent that the privilege of purchasing away tickets directly from West Ham United is now reserved for those who currently have that access. Breaking into that group is proving ever more difficult, or costly, and even impossible for some. The privilege of buying from the club is not to be confused with the privilege of attending. Attending those games is certainly still open to those with the desire to do so. The only problem being, you can’t attend in your name. Therefore you can’t give yourself the chance of attending future fixtures in your own name or maybe even claiming a more popular ticket in your own name. Demand is high, supply is often limited and so, perhaps naturally, a ‘black’ market evolves. Those with access to directly purchasing tickets don’t want to lose that access and, in many cases, you can argue that they’ve earned that right. But arguing is not what we should be doing. We need to unite. We can’t blame those who have access to tickets for having that access or blame them for utilising the only existing market place to pass those tickets on when the need arises. They are merely operating within the system as it is today. So who do we blame and how do we then level the proverbial playing field to a point where the black market is not the answer for those who wish to follow over land and sea?

1. Gold, Sullivan and Brady. Away fans have often been vocal critics of these three. Anything that sees divisions arise or that muddies the waters for a vocal travelling support, who might tarnish their reputation, would no doubt be very welcome.

2. The move (see above). More season ticket holders and an experience that just doesn’t compare to Upton Park is going to encourage people to travel to look for that experience.

3. Increased corporate season tickets (see above). These guys can ‘jump the queue’ so to speak. But again, this isn’t their fault. GSB wanted to sell more corporate seats.

4. The gentrification of the premier league in general. ‘Away Day’ culture is arguably a growing movement among those who resist popcorn, clappers and half & half scarves.

5. £30 cap. Offering to buy 4 tickets for your mates then sorting out who goes afterwards certainly takes on a different meaning when it’s £120 coming out of your account and not £280.

6. Relocation. I’m sure there was a time when most West Ham fans lived in the East End and jumped on a bus or walked to Upton Park. These days relocation is easy and common. There are hammers everywhere who would love to do their local Away day.

The priority point system, our bond holders, our away season ticket holders, and even the much maligned ballot are not to blame. Changes to these would merely shift the boundaries. Those who are buying the tickets might buy them at a lower point, but the shop door would remain closed. It’s all relative. ‘Blame’ lies with those who took actions that accelerated demand but haven’t catered for that, not with those who are forced to operate within their system to watch their team away from home.

So to the rub. How to level the playing field. How to ensure that the 3,000 people who want to drive up the M1 on a Wednesday night to watch their team can do so by purchasing a ticket from the club and not from a (some might say) less reliable source. Here lies the problem. Any solution. Any solution that anyone suggests to improve this system cannot be tested. We have no idea if it addresses the issue and then if it fixes the issue. Until the club will tell us where the tickets go, game by game, they hold all the cards. Just the way they like it. So, say we go for less ASTHs. We will still have no idea where all the tickets go. Or we get rid of the ballot. Well, where did they go for Bournemouth; no ballot there. Or we remove the point for certain games. We still don’t know who’s buying them. Unless we can get the club to engage in a discussion on this issue and to take action to inform the fan base we are stuck. Endlessly debating, continually frustrated and relying on a black market where, it has become apparent, we cannot trust the fellow ‘West Ham fan’.


Hammers United Committee is debating what proposals to put forward to the club .We thought it a good idea to post this member’s letter to help us guage our members’ views.-Thanks.

Hammers United Committee
www.hammersunited.com

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