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Alan 3:32 Tue Jun 4
West Ham's finances analyzed - definitely worth a watch
For anyone that hasn't seen last weekend's interview, it's fascinating stuff.

Kieran Maguire - football finance expert

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MancIron 11:14 Thu Jun 6
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, in a stadium that's not really fit for purpose i.e. Football.

, 11:11 Thu Jun 6
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Demise of our great club and fans, the club that can facilitate some 25k more spectators than it used to?

J.Riddle 1:38 Thu Jun 6
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Thanks Alan interesting, knew most of it although hearing it from an expert reinforces the reality of the demise of our great club and fans, while simultaneously making the owners hundreds of millions at the clubs expense.

As previously said expect another approx 4 seasons of mid-table mediocrity treading water, throwing the cups with minimal investment until they are free of the LLDC caveats, buy the heavily discounted stadium then flip on the 66,000 capacity stadium to anyone who will pay a billion +, fingers crossed they don't sell to a corrupt Chinese Barber like Brum.

rumford 11:28 Wed Jun 5
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It was a good interview very informative but as he said a new billionaire owner could not go out and buy a Messie/ top player due to FFP
He also stated that we need more income from say sponsorship match day sales, day trippers and tourist.Which was achieved by Liverpool by having a lot less season ticket holders. How would that sit with some of the fans on here.

Johnson 10:11 Wed Jun 5
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BUT THEY’RE FANS LIKE US.

MancIron 9:58 Wed Jun 5
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Most telling thing that Financial Analyst says is that Mike Ashley has loaned Newcastle United more money than Sullivan and Gold combined have loaned West Ham.

And Ashley has charged 0% interest.

Well worth a watch.

Mex Martillo 9:15 Wed Jun 5
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And challenging big five is quite a bit different from going to the next level...

I know we had mixed results in the 2nd half of the season, but we did compete well against the big 5, took points and with VAR would have been more. It was games other games we let ourselves down. Then again nothing new with that scenario, done that though out our history. The problem has nearly always been consistency.

Have to say, looking forward to the next season. I get bored during closed season...

Jaan Kenbrovin 7:56 Wed Jun 5
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MancIron 3:59 Wed Jun 5

Tbf we finished the next season 7th with our highest PL points total, qualifying for Europe.

MancIron 3:59 Wed Jun 5
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Direct quotes by Gold off the BBC - June 2015.

Gold said: "We are hoping West Ham will be in a position very soon to worry the top five and have them saying: 'Who are these upstarts? Who do they think they are?'

"As far as challenging these great clubs, it's very very hard. Southampton challenged last season, and there's absolutely no reason why West Ham can't emulate them.

"There is a big difference between realism and hope. Realistically, in the next five years we would expect to be knocking on the door of Europe, whether that's by finishing seventh or eighth or by winning the FA Cup or reaching the final.

"The longer-term aim is we want to frighten the big boys of Chelsea, Manchester City, Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool. We want the Big Five to be looking over their shoulders."

He also said something about taking the Europa League that season seriously before we got knocked out by Astra Fireworks the first time...

The Big Five! He doesn't even mention Tottenham.

Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Crassus 3:47 Wed Jun 5
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Lees'
I suspect, borne of no specific knowledge that whilst we may have lost £20m as a club, it was not lost lost - if you get my drift
I think that Kieran referred to matchday revenues rather than profit, hence the non impact of caosts against that figure
Which reverts to my previous point, he was using numbers from filed accounts for the first season in the OS, when there were exceptional costs incurred and prior to the big lift in tv money
That said, that place is not worth a carrot in real terms of incremental revenue

Leeshere 3:32 Wed Jun 5
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Always thought we sold the land at Upton Park way too cheaply, lost £20m there.
Would have thought that the bottom line of match day profit at the London Stadium would have been higher than stated due to the reduced costs of just having a rental agreement rather than owning and running the ground.

, 11:50 Wed Jun 5
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As a fan it’s difficult to be objective because of an inbuilt bias for matters concerning our club.

Hence we cannot help but overestimate the value of our players and underestimate the value of others.

Fifth Column 11:43 Wed Jun 5
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As others have said he was using £30 million as an example. He didn't claim to be expert on value of individual players.

Really interesting interview

Crassus 11:00 Wed Jun 5
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Lee
Agree, lowest value ought to be £50m
But in fairness to the bloke, he said Rice or Arnie at say £30m. Also, whilst recently filmed, windows have an inflationary mind of their own. Since that Maguire is valued at £85m, Maddison £60m and a host of foreigners at huge monenies

It does of course assume that he did not have a release clause inserted in that last and very recent contract that was signed quickly after many months of delay - I remain uncomfortable about that and would be staggered if he starts with us next season

claret on my shirt 11:00 Wed Jun 5
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Lee Trundle 10:47 Wed Jun 5

He's an expert in football finance,accounts etc not on the value of a player. Agree though Rice is worth 50m at least the way transfer prices are at present.

Lee Trundle 10:53 Wed Jun 5
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Alex V's site he uses to work out players values has him at £50m-£70m.

£30m would be a joke price for him this summer.

Lee Trundle 10:51 Wed Jun 5
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I reckon they'd be enough takers, if he was a available at that price, to push up that amount a lot higher.

, 10:49 Wed Jun 5
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That’s because sensibly that is what he is worth right now.

Lee Trundle 10:47 Wed Jun 5
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*transferred

Lee Trundle 10:47 Wed Jun 5
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How can a football finance expert think that Rice, if he went this summer, would be transfered for £30m?

Crassus 10:43 Wed Jun 5
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Also, there was a prior body of opinion here that asked how could 25k extra ticket sales, with a lower average price on the lot plus the dividend payment, so dramatically impact our revenues?

Now lower operating cost would help in the profit direction but the single greatest area as yet not fully tapped is in the realms of sponsorship, not withstanding that too is subject to the dividend - another aspect of buying the stadium that will help revenues

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