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chav_corner 12:36 Sat Jun 22
West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
You will be aware that Hammers United and WHUISA wrote jointly to West Ham challenging their refusal to meet Independent West Ham fans groups.
West Ham’s reply is reproduced below:-
Dear Lee and John,
Thank you for your email.
We have openly offered the opportunity to engage with all West Ham United official and independent supporters groups.
Both Hammers United and WHUISA can apply for a position on the Official Supporters’ Board (OSB) and I have also offered that you can put your members in touch with me personally should they require assistance with individual enquiries or issues. I will always do my utmost to help our supporters.
We want to engage with all supporters, including independent supporters groups. I acknowledge your request to meet the Board, however, the Board will not meet every supporters group individually upon request due to the sheer number of requests that we receive. All supporters groups are welcome to apply for a position on the OSB and this offer has been made to Hammers United and WHUISA, which I understand you have both chosen to decline. The OSB does provide you the opportunity to share and voice the suggestions, views and concerns of your members directly to the Board of Directors, senior management and stadium partners, and we welcome applications from every West Ham United official and independent supporters group.
The OSB is not ‘one group’ of supporters. It is designed to be a collective board of supporters and supporters groups, bringing everyone together – we cannot and will not favour one supporters group or supporters view, suggestion or opinion over another. The OSB includes specific representatives from different ages, backgrounds and equality and diversity perspectives, as well as supporters from the Disabled Supporters’ Board, Junior Supporters’ Board, West Ham United Official Supporters’ Club, Bondholders, and International Supporters Clubs. Claret and Hugh also hold a position on the OSB to represent the views of their members and we created a separate and simple application process for all independent supporters groups to apply. All supporters and supporters groups are offered the chance to apply for the OSB, there are of course some exemptions in terms of applications that are considered, for example, if supporters are serving a ban or suspension or they are under investigation for offences relating to football.
We welcome and value the views of all supporters equally, no matter who they represent. We believe that each of the representatives and supporters groups I have mentioned should have equal access and opportunity to have their voices heard at the highest level of the Club, and we believe the current model provides that platform for our supporters. We cannot favour one supporters group over another or meet separately with certain groups. If you wish to meet with the Board of Directors, I’d welcome and encourage all supporters groups to apply for the OSB for the 2019/2020 season. We absolutely respect that not every supporters opinion will be the same, nor will each supporter hold an affiliation to each and every supporters group in existence. It is my responsibility as Supporter Services Manager to listen to, consult with, and try to assist all supporters, wherever I possibly can, and to ensure we have a meaningful model for engagement, consultation, and structured dialogue that reflects these values.
I believe the current model offers equal access and opportunity from all perspectives and provides multiple ways for all supporters, on the OSB and the wider fanbase, to be involved with the Club and to have their voices heard at the highest level, both with West Ham and our stadium partners. Supporters can also contact the Supporter Services team directly to discuss, raise, and share their feedback or concerns and we will always use this to try and enhance matchdays and any of our services for our supporters.
We have committed to reviewing the process at the end of each season in consultation with the supporter representatives and supporters groups on the OSB, and will be doing so over the summer in advance of the new season.
I trust this explains our approach and desire to bring all supporters and supporters groups together and to ensure that everyone is given the opportunity to have their say in the Club they love, regardless of who they represent.
Thank you for your support.
Kind regards,
Jake

Hammers United have forwarded this to our legal team for perusal and will be contacting the F.S.F.on Monday to discuss.Our Committee will take on board subsequent recommendations on how best to proceed and act accordingly.
This is of course a joint venture with WHIUSA and we have forwarded them West Ham’s reply. We have asked them to telephone our Secretary to discuss a continued joint approach.
We will then make what will have to be our final approach to West Ham.
We believe that we have acted honourably and with patience in our correspondence with West Ham which has now gone back and forth for 3 months.They have never shifted from their hard-line position which basically is to hide behind their flawed O.S.B.
We now have to consider the possibility that West Ham will not change their stance and Hammers United Committee will be discussing this possibility as a matter of urgency.Should the final approach fall on deaf ears then perhaps the time for diplomacy will have ended and the time for action will be upon us.
We will keep you informed.
Thank You.
Hammers United Committee.

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Pickle Rick 3:57 Mon Jun 24
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
The person who wrote that email needs to learn how to use paragraphs a little better!

Lily Hammer 12:54 Mon Jun 24
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
I first discovered WHO by googling “West Ham + Forum + Unofficial”

I wrote unofficial for painfully obvious reasons. I was not interested in the opinions floated by any kind of official website or forum.

It is just as painfully obvious as to why no real fan should want an official fan’s group, hand picked and approved by the club. If you don’t understand why, you must be being willfully ignorant. No offence intended, but that’s a hard truth you need to own.

Pub Bigot 11:25 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
Are you referring to Hammers United Vexed, or Socios?

chav_corner 11:00 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
Huffers.The FSF.have told us that only West Ham and Hull refuse to meet fans groups.

Huffers 10:48 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not against any groups trying to better our experience at all, just can’t see it ending if they meet HU then there will be group after group with their own agendas.

Huffers 10:45 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
I can’t imagine Manchester United even acknowledging the existence of any fan group. The club are absolutely right to refuse to meet various groups. They are however wrong to hand-pick the OSB but then again how else should it be. If it was a public vote it would just go to those with the most followers on twitter.

End of the day, the club should be professional enough and understand their business and target audience not to need any of this crap in the first place.

Vexed 9:42 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
I wouldn't waste my time on these fucking clowns either. Hardly surprising.

AKA ERNIE 9:25 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
just dont get the .oaning about socios it ain't compulsory so just doing fucking sign up to it

North Bank 6:58 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
When Brady first organised the OSB she asked Sean Whetstone to organise a group of fans representatives from various groups / fan sites

EX contacted us and asked why we didn't put our name forward, we responded saying we weren't invited so he told Sean to add us to the group, Sean flatly refused stating that Brady hates WHO and we're not welcome

That tells you all you need to know about the OSB

Dwight Van Mann 3:00 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
Maybe the bird man could come back from Tenerife and organise a march then call it off and threaten to batter some ANTIFA ?

Fifth Column 12:47 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
Sven

Other clubs don't set up their own groups and then consult with them... they recognise independent supporters groups. The issue at WH that gives them an excuse not to engage is that we have more than one group - but even if there were only one they would still refuse to engage. It's excuses. Though again I don't blame club staff, it's the owners that are the problem.

Pub Bigot 12:24 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
On the Socios issues we are working with other groups and we're our goals align we will work alongside other groups. But membership numbers and a mandate by vote should count.

Sven Roeder 12:21 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
I can imagine the club will pick tame yes men if they can but I don’t disagree with them that there should be one group.
Those SHOULD be from all range of groups though to get a real input.

chav_corner 12:16 Sun Jun 23
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
Sven.This representative group were in effect chosen by the club.They were not even consulted re season ticket prices or the Socios partnership.

Sven Roeder 11:55 Sat Jun 22
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
They have said they will meet a representative group of fans and respond to individual issues and queries.
Do you think they should meet separately with half a dozen or 10 different groups?

Seems a few people are a bit carried away with their own importance and don’t want to dilute that.
And for once it’s not the Board or Lady Brady

Pub Bigot 11:31 Sat Jun 22
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
No, but those with a significant amount of members and a mandate they should. We're almost 4k in membership, nothing to be sniffed at for such a short lifespan.

Alfs 7:07 Sat Jun 22
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
I kind of agree with what the letter says. The board can't go randomly meeting up with supporters groups. Where would it end?

Mex Martillo 6:16 Sat Jun 22
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
Good work Chav and all. Really appreciate the effort. Hope you get there, and I’m willing to help.

chav_corner 5:27 Sat Jun 22
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
Max.Of course.We are working on it.We are approaching the end game now.

'UNITED FOR CHANGE.'

Texas Iron 4:37 Sat Jun 22
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
Long letter...

Short version...

"...No...Fuck Off..."

Mex Martillo 4:36 Sat Jun 22
Re: West Ham refuse to meet Fans Groups.
It is amazing how something that should be simple gets so complicated.
I saw the vote, I voted to join and try to get change from inside and outside if you see what I mean. Your right there are good reasons not to join and it is decided for now by the vote.
Being just on the outside, I think HU needs to try and get even more groups with them. I inderstand HU want to take a legal approach. The more supporters and supporters groups that join in this approach the stronger the case to show the club they must change. I think?

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