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longford 12:38 Thu Nov 7
Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
So i was watching a documentery about the late great Brian Clough on you tube , and /scrolled down the comments section and there was a comment that pointed to a section of the video where cloughy was getting clapped of the pitch despite this being the end of the 92/93 season , a season where Forest were relegated.
So someone commented that he was the only manager in history for their team to be relaged and the manager be clapped of the pitch.
i dont know whether this is wrong or right , but it got me thinking
In the 88/89 season i was a 9 year old west ham fan , i was still a season away to going to my first game , my west ham viewing was confined to the send of season review on VHS , the stand outs that year for me was the 4-1 over Liverpool in the littlewoods cup and Julian diks getting a kick to the face and tony gales curler , Paul ince's goal of the season against Villa , a great run of form at the end of the year, but being humled by Liverpool on the final game , just before Arsenal (its up for grabs now) done what they did ....
But what i wanted to know , honestly what was the feeling in the stands for John Lyall that season , was there a strong Lyall out sentiment and what was his final reception like towards the end ?
is someone could say what the feelings in the terraces where that year towards the legendary gaffer , id appreciate it very much
Thanks in advance

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Fivetide 12:32 Tue Nov 12
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
Same as it ever was. This is West Ham. Momentary glimpses of good fortune, but 95% grim disappointment and turning on each other. I look back at my life as a supporter with claret & blue tinted specs, but the truth is that it's always been like this, and any highlights ineveitablky end in fans booing our own - every single time.

terry-h 11:04 Tue Nov 12
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
zico 8:38 Fri Nov 8
Exactly right. If Lyall's widow reads that, I think she might shed a tear or two.
Greenwood was a bit of a cold fish and I never understood why he and Moore appeared to fall out with each other.
Lyall's period as manager was a special time for the fans. You just have to listen to what players like Gale,Cottee and Macavennie have said about him,and Sir Alex Ferguson has mentioned what a welcoming friend he became on his arrival in Manchester.
I doubt younger fans will ever appreciate what a great club West Ham became in the period Greenwood and Lyall were in charge.

balders 6:26 Tue Nov 12
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
Norwich away that year , majority of the support were chanting Lyall out

The manager will also take the blame when they don't have the board backing them

West Ham should have moved him upstairs but typical us fucked up again

normannomates 4:43 Tue Nov 12
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
DEVO doing a great job at Maidenhead utd.. Went along to wealdstone game in FA Cup.. Has his side playing as I expected.
Good account of themselves against Rotherham.. took the lead.. but run out of puff..

Love devo

normannomates 4:37 Tue Nov 12
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
That Kelly cunt has always hated us since his time with us..

Fuckin fanny

normannomates 3:45 Tue Nov 12
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
DEVO is.. and always will be my all time favourite..
But you know players like Alan Dickens tend to be forgotten.. He was class for us..made us tick in 85/86. Lovely footballer.. Brady was class above.. Just past his prime.. but a joy..
AHH.. We've had some proper quality over the yrs..

normannomates 3:33 Tue Nov 12
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
Zico 8.38
'incredible gentlemen'

That is perfectly what I would like to have said.
And proud to be a WHU supporter.. BIG time.

zico 10:56 Mon Nov 11
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
I reckon that had we had Ince and Dicks at their best in 85/86 in holding midfield and left back we would have won the League. Nothing against Walford/George/Pike or Orr but those are the positions that should have been strengthened in 86/87.

mallard 10:47 Mon Nov 11
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
Worth noting that Dicks, Slater and Ince were very young back then and before their prime

longford 9:22 Mon Nov 11
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
This is the team that played liverpool on the final day , to my eyes it looks a good squad , a bit ageing in places.

Obviously the keeper is a big problem , and also the lack of goals . you'd think that if terry brown / cairnes put their hand in the pockets for a decent goal scorer earlier in the year we wuld have been ok ..

i would have thought their was worse teams knocking about at that time ...






Allen McKnight
Julian Dicks
Tony Gale
Alvin Martin
Liam Brady
Alan Dickens
Paul Ince
George Parris
Stuart Slater
Mark Ward
Leroy Rosenior

zico 8:38 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
The thing is fair enough some people will say it all went sour at the end and Lyall did have two relegations but between Greenwood and Lyall there was a Cup Winners Cup win and runners up, three FA Cup wins, a League Cup Final an incredible promotion a third place finish to the two best sides in the country plus some great cup nights, when we took the cups seriously!!

Could we have won the League with some of the players we had under both? Half the problem was we played on a quagmire so probably did well to play the attractive football G and L tried to play. Coming down with the Christmas decorations was probably partly to do with the weather!

The thing for me is that despite the results both G and L were impeccable gentlemen and I was incredibly proud to be a West Ham supporter because of their integrity. Never on the back or the front pages for anything other than the football and even now you don't have too many Clubs where ex players have such wonderful things to say about the Club at that time.

It's a shame EX Magazine finished because it was a real privilege reading that because an awful lot of the players cared which is why I try not to slag off Noble and Cresswell because they genuinely care for the Club.

Not sure John would have liked the way football has gone with players and agents calling the shots and with all the crap that goes on now. I'm sure he would find it all rather distasteful.

british is best 6:16 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
To be fair we were going down . Only question was when after the 4 0 at Newcastle .Beardsley and Goddard destroyed us live on itv .never saw the confidence drain from a team so quickly after that. Paul inces debut if I remember right.

Northern Sold 4:07 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
Similar game v Southampton as well...

Northern Sold 4:06 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89

hammer205 3:04 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
Beating Middlesbrough 1-0 until last 3 minutes
Concede 2 goals and lost


BERNIE SLAVEN

ChillTheKeel 3:10 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
The writing was on the wall in '88 away to Charlton at Selhurst. That day was another level of coma-inducing drivel.
Steve 'woolly-woofta' Walford FFS.

hammer205 3:04 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
Beating Middlesbrough 1-0 until last 3 minutes
Concede 2 goals and lost
We both got relegated
That is the West Ham way for sure
Btw we were rubbish that season as well
Didn’t replace TC and David kelly was bambi on ice

muskie 1:42 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
2 things I remember from that season,

the "Lyall Out or Div 2" graffiti by the main gates, quite prophetic really, don't think they were known as the Lyall gates then.

Losing at home to Wimbledon, the Lyall Out chanting was loud and came from all corners of the ground with Alvin Martin cunting off the fans in the Chicken Run for not supporting the team. He got some dogs abuse for that.

Interesting times, after we finished 3rd Lyall lost it, he didn't make one good decision. Sad really.

Takashi Miike 12:21 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
always thought it was a disgrace the way some behaved towards Lyall, and not surprised certain cunts on this thread thought it was deserved

Northern Sold 12:18 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
Spoke to a few of the old boys.... and been to quite a few Hammers Heroes evenings... you will not hear any of them say a bad word about JL .

GreenStreetPlayer 11:00 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
JOHNNY LYALLS CLARET AND BLUE ARMY.
JOHNNY LYALLS CLARET AND BLUE ARMY.
JOHNNY LYALLS CLARET AND BLUE ARMY.
Certainly he had the best name to fit that chant.

A dismal 85/86 pre season had the players sorting things out themselves away from John with a tweak here and there, and the rest is our history.
The players had the utmost respect for John.

british is best 10:41 Fri Nov 8
Re: Question about john Lyall and the relegation season of 88/89
I remember going to arsenal away in September 87. and losing 1 0 to Kenny sansoms first goal in 6 years with 3 minutes left .and our fans were chanting we want EL TEL throughout the game.

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