LAF 11:09 Wed Dec 18
BBC League of the Decade
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Go take a look on BBC Sport web page, quite revealing how we’ve performed over the last ten years.
Below Southampton.
Below Stoke City.
Below Crystal Palace.
Below, would you believe , Sheffield United. Goes to show that expectations, including mine, have been way too high in recent years and we are where we deserve to be. The ‘next level’ merchants have failed to deliver and will continue to do so.
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Stickleback
2:33 Wed Dec 18
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To me next level is guaranteed top 10. CL is several levels up.
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Come On You Irons
1:16 Wed Dec 18
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goose 12:44 Wed Dec 18
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Oh yeah, you're right it's three top ten finishes out of seven. Not bad I suppose, but the point remains that one top ten finish out of three since the stadium move is hardly next level.
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goose
1:09 Wed Dec 18
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Spurs have had way more financial resources than us.
If i were Sullivan, i would say that 'next level' for west ham united is:
sustained PL football (comfortably)
breaking the transfer record a number of times
55k ST holders
8th highest wage bill
8th or 9th highest net spend over the past 5 years
PL winning manager
this next level business is entirely subjective.
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LAF
1:04 Wed Dec 18
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Goose: I get your reasoning, mate. I do accept that we're kind of on par for a club our size and the difficulty in breaking through to mix with the elite top six. Two considerations though: Spurs have done it over this decade, you could argue and - when we talk of the next level, it's the owners who sold us that line to buy us into their leadership.
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goose
12:45 Wed Dec 18
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Westside 12:43 Wed Dec 18
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one freak result in a decade.
otherwise has there ever been a season when the CL hasnt been a mix of:
man city
man utd
liverpool
chelsea
arsenal
spurs
???
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goose
12:44 Wed Dec 18
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2012 onwards has been 'ok' and roughly where we should be. 3 top ten finishes out of 7 and a lowest finish of 13th.
mistakes have been made for sure (ignoring the stadium) but we simply dont have the money to threaten the top 6, maybe even 7.
our fans keep throwing around 'next level' is embarrassing.
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Westside
12:43 Wed Dec 18
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huge improvement on the previous decade and at a time when the money in the game has made the top 6 even less obtainable.
So Leicester's success was down to money?
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Come On You Irons
12:40 Wed Dec 18
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I think our league finishes over this period should be the main thing to look at.
2009-10 - 17th
2010-11 - 20th (relegated)
2011-12 - In Championship
2012-13 - 10th
2013-14 - 13th
2014-15 - 12th
2015-16 - 7th
2016-17 - 11th
2017-18 - 13th
2018-19 - 10th
So, two top ten finishes and bottom placed finish in those ten season. One top ten finish out of three since the stadium move. It's hardly 'next level'.
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goose
12:31 Wed Dec 18
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8th is about par for the course no?
huge improvement on the previous decade and at a time when the money in the game has made the top 6 even less obtainable.
what more did you expect?
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LAF
12:28 Wed Dec 18
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And misgivings aside about how the calculations have fallen still sobering reading. Not flattering at all - or would someone like to claim we've done ok since 2010?
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LAF
12:25 Wed Dec 18
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Who's the lazy bastard that can't do two clicks to the beeb website....or is your right hand constantly occupied?
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wd40
12:07 Wed Dec 18
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Still people believing the BBC as soon as they put something out?
strange unhealthy & backward.
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Iron Duke
12:01 Wed Dec 18
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We’re 8th if you count cumulative points.
Thanks BBC.
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goose
11:52 Wed Dec 18
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roughly -10 goals per season.
i think we've had one season with a positive GD?
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HockleyHammer
11:25 Wed Dec 18
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Goal Difference -214 FMOB
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goose
11:22 Wed Dec 18
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points per game is a bit misleading, makes sheff utd look very good.
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Westside
11:21 Wed Dec 18
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Overall cumulative, Premier League table, not points per game.
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Sydney_Iron
11:21 Wed Dec 18
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Sheffield United also above Leicester, wo have actually won the PL tells you everything you need to know.
They have also only played 17 games in the PL in those 10 years, West Ham have played 339............
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Westside
11:21 Wed Dec 18
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The 10 year table is points per game in the Premier league, not a cumulative points table. The teams you mention have all played significantly less games in the Premier League than us, Sheffield United only 17 (i.e this season only!). We have been out of the Premier League only one season in the decade.
We are 14th in that table, but in the overall Premier League table sine inception, we are 10th.
https://www.statbunker.com/alltimestats/AllTimeLeagueTable?comp_code=EPL
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Darby_
11:19 Wed Dec 18
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Sheff Utd: 25 points in Premier League
West Ham: 403 points in Premier League
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goose
11:18 Wed Dec 18
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how many of those years were we in the PL?
Its really only the past 4 or 5 year where we've been in a position of expecting top half finishes.
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