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goose 12:23 Wed Jan 22
This coronavirus in China - PL suspended until 1st June
anyone else worried? 9 dead so far.

CNY soon so the virus will spread very quickly if they cannot control it. It'll be in Europe by the end of CNY if not earlier.

is this the end of humanity?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51202216

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peroni 5:14 Sat May 30
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In the absence of HairyHammer.

Shut up Golden, you twat.

Mike Oxsaw 5:12 Sat May 30
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The primary purpose of the lockdown was NOT to prevent people dying from the Coronavirus. It was to prevent the hospitals being overrun with people needing treatment for symptoms of the Coronavirus and the knock-on effect of blocking access to people with more "traditional" illnesses.

Those who were eventually treated, cured and released from hospital are a collateral bonus to the lockdown strategy.

It matters NOT how deadly the virus is/was; it's impact on generating demand for hospitalization was and will remain the driving factor. How hard is that to understand?

Golden Oldie 5:05 Sat May 30
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The old c wing
"Here comes the other nut job."
Of the previous posts I made, quoting top doctors and virologists of two different and significantly advanced territories namely Russia and Germany.

What is it that compels you to reply to me, someone who has never knowingly addressed before, you decide to try and insult me albeit in a kind of retarded infantile way but that's by the bye, especially when a brief scan of your previous effort turns up this.

"Brazil appears to becoming the human Petri dish you desire YOU LOVELESS AND SAD LITTLE CUNT, maybe we can see how that pans out."
No offence, but them's the words of a truly damaged mental case.
Why are you so angry towards others who don't wan't to play in your early learners nursery?

No need to guess what the c stands for

The old c wing 4:55 Sat May 30
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Here comes the other nut job.

Golden Oldie 4:32 Sat May 30
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The authors of the report issued a joint press release already on Mai 11th, berating the government for ignoring expert advise, and asking for the interior minister to officially comment upon the experts joint statement:

“Therapeutic and preventive measures should never bring more harm than the illness itself. Their aim should be to protect the risk groups, without endegearing the availibilty of medical care and the health of the whole population, as it is unfortunately occurring”

“We in the scientific and medical praxis are experiencing the secondary damages of the Corona-measures on our patients on a dialy basis.”

“We therefore ask the Federal Ministry of the Interior, to comment upon our press release, and we hope for a pertinent discussion regarding the [Corona] measures, one that leads to the best possible solution for the whole population”

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/29/german-official-leaks-report-denouncing-corona-as-global-false-alarm/

Golden Oldie 4:32 Sat May 30
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German Official Leaks Report Denouncing Corona as ‘A Global False Alarm’

Germany’s federal government and mainstream media are engaged in damage control after a report that challenges the established Corona narrative leaked from the interior ministry.

Some of the report key passages are:

The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.

The people who die from Corona are essentially those who would statistically die this year, because they have reached the end of their lives and their weakened bodies can no longer cope with any random everyday stress (including the approximately 150 viruses currently in circulation).

Worldwide, within a quarter of a year, there has been no more than 250,000 deaths from Covid-19, compared to 1.5 million deaths [25,100 in Germany] during the influenza wave 2017/18.

The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.

A reproach could go along these lines: During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.
So far, so bad. But it gets worse.

The report focuses on the “manifold and heavy consequences of the Corona measures” and warns that these are “grave”.

More people are dying because of state-imposed Corona-measures than they are being killed by the virus.

The reason is a scandal in the making:

A Corona-focused German healthcare system is postponing life-saving surgery and delaying or reducing treatment for non-Corona patients.

Initially, the government tried to dismiss the report as “the work of one employee”, and its contents as “his own opinion” – while the journalists closed ranks, no questions asked, with the politicians.

But the 93-pages report titled “Analysis of the Crisis Management” has been drafted by a scientific panel appointed by the interior ministry and composed by external medical experts from several German universities.

Golden Oldie 4:29 Sat May 30
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'It's Just the Flu, It's All BS' - Russia's Top Official COVID Doctor Admits in Bombshell interview

“It’s all exaggerated. It’s an acute respiratory disease (i.e. the flu) with minimal mortality. Why has the whole world been destroyed? That I don’t know.”

From the Moscow Times:

Russia’s head of coronavirus information has suggested that global anxiety over the pandemic is misplaced, his latest controversial comment after saying that the infection would kill as many people as it needs to.

Doctor and television presenter Alexander Myasnikov was appointed in April to his new role of informing Russians about coronavirus treatment and prevention methods and to battle “fake news” about Covid-19. After calling the country’s reported low death rate a “Russian miracle,” Myasnikov said last week that “those meant to die will die” from it.

In an interview that aired Wednesday, Myasnikov gestured for the cameras to stop running and said candidly: “It’s all bullsh*t.”

“It’s all exaggerated. It’s an acute respiratory disease with minimal mortality,” he told television personality Ksenia Sobchak in the interview for her YouTube project.

“Why has the whole world been destroyed? That I don’t know,”.

https://russia-insider.com/en/its-just-flu-its-all-bs-russias-top-official-covid-doctor-admits-bombshell-invu/ri30462

The old c wing 4:24 Sat May 30
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BRANDED 1:39 Sat May 30
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Daily Mail

Coronavirus 'R' rate could be as low as 0.5 outside of hospitals - with the national average inflated by the huge infection rate in medical settings, say SAGE scientists


This is what my Brother In Law’s mongy spread sheet was saying. Which he discovered when they started changing the death figures.

This puts a huge question over NHS managers.

Right. So this is the same guy who said 85% of us had already had it, past the level required from herd immunity.

The impact of lockdown was immediately to drive the R level below one. It’s inevitable that then the areas driving the numbers would be care settings of varying descriptions because that’s where the outbreaks were.

It doesn’t need a made up model from your fictional brother in law. It’s basic maths to understand that as cases in the community fell, the R number is a bigger reflection of care home and hospital spread.

But, care homes are real places with real people going back and forth. So simply ignoring their impact on R would be foolish as they can act as the drivers for outbreaks in wider society. The SAGE minutes reflect this.

Thus it is still a valid part of the decision making process.

Brazil appears to becoming the human Petri dish you desire you loveless and sad little cunt, maybe we can see how that pans out.

Johnson 2:21 Sat May 30
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Shame you’ve got no mates to go with though.

Who’d have thought all would be good in your made up fantasy world.

BRANDED 2:17 Sat May 30
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Mine are. Sorry to hear that mong face

Johnson 2:16 Sat May 30
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The pubs aren’t open?

BRANDED 2:13 Sat May 30
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He kept the model going as an indicator of the exposure in hospitals. He then did one on the care homes. He hates being told facts that are not properly corroborated by hard data but finding the hard data is pretty challenging in the UK. Anyway, most of us have had little to worry about for ages as I have been stressing for a long time.
Go down your local pub and get pissed up with some mates.

Hammer and Pickle 2:12 Sat May 30
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*one, not on

Johnson 2:10 Sat May 30
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Science and data absolutely moves on Braindead, but you and your mongy brother in law will always be fucking idiots well off the pace.

Hammer and Pickle 2:08 Sat May 30
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There is a learning from every experience. Perhaps this on is about how a national health service becomes a negative asset in a pandemic if successive governments fail to fund and manage it properly.

Also, the incredible social cost of not having a proper national health service policy at all, or a governing party that actively campaigns against one, ought to be clear as day if one is ready to observe what is happening in the US, Russia or Brazil today.

Kaiser Zoso 2:04 Sat May 30
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Easy Brando, kinder, gentler, St Jo Cox and all that?

I'd bin the Excel file. It's shit.

BRANDED 2:03 Sat May 30
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Science shifts as the data becomes available. It moves on Ponceson face mask wanker. Unlike mongs and inbreds.

Johnson 1:56 Sat May 30
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No Branded your mongy brother in law’s spreadsheet said 85% of people had already had it at that point in time.

Which as estimates go is probably the worst estimate ever made.

Ronald_antly 1:46 Sat May 30
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BRANDED 1:43 Sat May 30


"We've got one that can SEE!"

El Scorchio 1:45 Sat May 30
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Sold. I do agree that to some extent we are just going to have to live with it for the foreseeable at least until there’s a vaccine or a treatment that renders it non fatal, but again how successfully or otherwise will fall on the shoulders of the general population.

Manuel. Definitely I think the majority are taking it seriously, but a significant enough number to keep transmission rates dodgy aren’t. All through lockdown where I live I’ve seen people outside not observing distancing. Almost everyone I know has spoken about people out and about and in supermarkets especially just not giving a fuck. The Cummings thing really hasn’t helped. Whether he was justified or not, it was a stupid thing to do and just adds fuel to the fire that more obstinate or less intelligent people will use as reasoning not to comply. The media are really not helping the situation by amplifying it so much though.

Actually I think the government probably don’t want to open anything yet, but they (and any party leading would be) are coming under increasing pressure from print and social media to do so. The very same people who if it goes wrong will be back shouting about how the government were wrong and lifted restrictions too early. Being in power through this must be a fucking nightmare. Essentially operating blind but then getting all your decisions criticised with the power of hindsight. Did they get everything right? Nope. Could they possibly have? Nope. Same would apply to a Labour or other government.

BRANDED 1:43 Sat May 30
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If you wonder why this is important you might want to read the whole article.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8370921/Coronavirus-R-rate-low-0-5-outside-hospitals.html

The entire decision making process on lock down is based upon an R number that didn’t exist!

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