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Q: 2019/20 With seven games to go will West Ham stay up
a. Our demise was sealed when the idiots on the Board appointed Moyes, we're down
25%
  
b. Despite the efforts of Moyes and the players, we will stay up by the smallest of margins
50%
  
c. I'm beyond caring & couldn't give two hoots either way
25%
  



goose 12:23 Wed Jan 22
This coronavirus in China - PL suspended until 1st June
anyone else worried? 9 dead so far.

CNY soon so the virus will spread very quickly if they cannot control it. It'll be in Europe by the end of CNY if not earlier.

is this the end of humanity?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51202216

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Golden Oldie 1:01 Wed Aug 5
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Mike No Childish Jokes About Cocks
"And YOUR feasible alternative is???!!!???!!!"

How about getting on with it and accepting that we all may catch the odd cold now and again.

Learn to live with catching colds and drinking some hot lemon and honey and get some rest.

Only that's not an option anymore

Vaccinate or Terminate - That is the question
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/vaccinate-or-terminate-mandatory-vaccination-workplace-policy

Mike Oxsaw 12:55 Wed Aug 5
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Golden Oldie 12:51 Wed Aug 5

And YOUR feasible alternative is???

Golden Oldie 12:51 Wed Aug 5
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The "New Normal" is anything but...

Councils can demolish contaminated buildings under new powers to stop second coronavirus wave

"The power to demolish buildings, however, is perhaps the most striking inclusion in the Government's Covid-19 Contain Framework.

The document, published by the Department of Health and Social Care, advises councils that, under the Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984, they can apply to a magistrate "to impose restrictions or requirements to close contaminated premises; close public spaces in the area of the local authority; detain a conveyance or movable structure; disinfect or decontaminate premises; or order that a building, conveyance or structure be destroyed".

It raises the possibility that care homes, factories, offices or even private homes could be bulldozed as a last resort if the virus starts to run out of control, although such measures have not been considered necessary during the outbreak.

Downing Street regards local or regional lockdowns as the way forward in containing coronavirus.

Councils have been given a list of all the laws they can use to restrict people's movement and behaviour, including the Coronavirus Act 2020.

Among the range of powers set out in the Government's advice to councils is the ability to "close certain businesses and venues (for example shops, cafes, gyms, recreation centres, offices, labs, warehouses); close outdoor public areas (for example parks, playgrounds, beaches, esplanades, outdoor swimming pools) and order deep-cleans of buildings or vehicles linked to outbreaks".



http://archive.vn/Si6bU
(Original link behind a paywall)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/08/04/councilscan-demolish-contaminated-buildings-new-powers-stop/

Mike Oxsaw 8:06 Tue Aug 4
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El Scorchio 6:51 Tue Aug 4

Given that the UK is and was governed by people who felt that sticking their cock into a dead pig's mouth was both a fine assessment of character and a pre-requisite to lead government, we can scarcely be surprised.

El Scorchio 6:51 Tue Aug 4
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Well, given that humans appear to have passed it on to a few other species, I suppose goat isn't completely out of the question but a papaya is maaaaybe a bit of a stretch :)

Northern Sold 1:19 Tue Aug 4
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Darby_ 4:41 Tue Aug 4
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"think I look rather cool in my crips LA south central bandana..."

So you finally stopped whinging and took up your once in a lifetime opportunity to walk the streets looking like a Central American revolutionary?



No Darby son.... Tupac... I look like Tupac... one of the Southside Compton Crips... nothing to do with Che Guvera

Northern Sold 1:14 Tue Aug 4
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`In March the government rushed into buying antibody tests that were then found not to work well enough`.


Yeah think they were the same ones that they had in Africa is which a Goat and a Papyrus fruit was shown to have had Covid…

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-tanzania-testing-kits-questioned-after-goat-and-papaya-test-positive-11982864

BRANDED 8:35 Tue Aug 4
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Guardian.

A group of Britain’s leading virus experts say mistakes are being made in the handling of the Covid pandemic, with testing contracts awarded on apparently ideological grounds to private sector companies rather than based on expertise.

In a letter to England’s chief medical officer and the chief scientific adviser, nearly 70 clinical virologists say they have been sidelined by the government and excluded from discussions on how to respond to the pandemic.

New 90-minute tests announced with fanfare by ministers on Monday were the latest example of how virologists were being bypassed, they say. They have been using rapid tests such as these already – but say they have no knowledge of or information on the DnaNudge or LamPORE tests that the government is contracting to buy.

The UK Clinical Virology Network wrote to Prof Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer for England, and Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific adviser, on 10 July but say they have had no response. The experts in testing for viruses such as Covid-19 mostly work in 40 NHS and Public Health England (PHE) laboratories across the country.

They were writing, they said in their letter, “to express our concern over lack of engagement by policymakers with clinical virology expertise in the UK in the management of the Covid-19 (Sars-CoV-2 pandemic)”.

The letter adds: “Our skills have been underused and underrepresented (albeit to differing extents within the devolved nations of the UK), resulting in lost opportunities to establish a coordinated robust and durable testing framework for Sars-CoV-2.”

Deenan Pillay, a professor of virology at University College London, is one of the signatories. “There’s always new tests being developed. And it’s almost as if they’re being pushed as a sort of magic bullet … it’s almost like getting stuff out to actually reassure the public rather than the more boring but really hard work of doing proper contact tracing,” he told the Guardian.

He and others think the government is convinced that only the private sector can rise to the pandemic challenges. But, he said, a series of mistakes and problems had arisen from failing to consult with clinical virologists.

In March the government rushed into buying antibody tests that were then found not to work well enough.

In the same month, it set up drive-through testing centres and so-called Lighthouse labs – privately and publicly operated – to increase the number of swabs taken and processed, but did not have the systems to feed the data into the NHS and public health authorities around the country, where it is needed.

“If you’re going to build a Lighthouse lab or a new lab somewhere, to have it under control of an NHS laboratory would be the obvious thing,” said Pillay. “It was the first thing I said when Deloitte phoned me and asked me for advice on setting up Lighthouse labs.

“I said, well, the most important thing is not just the test – it is the data. How are you going to get it [to] assimilate into NHS data systems? And again, that was overlooked. I think we now realise that was a major error.”

The only clinical virologist on the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) is from the main PHE reference laboratory, he said.

Prof Will Irving at the University of Nottingham, another signatory, pointed to centralised control of the response when Lighthouse labs were set up. “We never quite reached capacity. We could have done more testing,” he said of the Nottingham laboratory.

“When I first saw the email that … the army were going to come up to the university the next day and collect whatever machines we could give them to go down to the Milton Keynes Lighthouse [lab], my first reaction was – that’s a really good idea. You put all these capabilities in a very large warehouse, and you work it 24 hours a day. You can do a huge amount of testing.

“But just like whoever first thought of that, I hadn’t thought it through. And in fact, the actual testing in the laboratory – of taking the sample and determining whether or not it’s got virus in it – is far and away the easiest part of the whole process,” he said.

Diagnostic laboratories such as his had rigorous processes for getting the results where they should be, so patients could be treated, contacts traced and local public health officials notified of what was happening in their area.

Instead, it emerged that some Lighthouse labs sent home volunteers because there were too few samples to process, while some patients got wrong or delayed results. “We heard stories about thousands of samples being sent to the United States for testing which is just plain ridiculous,” he said. “And it just seems there is a rush to do everything privately.”

The virologists still hope they can help, advising that private testing centres and labs should be at least partnered with an NHS or PHE diagnostic laboratory. “It is not too late to effect change. The Covid-19 pandemic response will need to evolve through the coming winter and beyond … We ask that you reach out to the clinical and academic virologists in all countries of the UK,” the letter says.

A government spokesperson said: “We have made significant strides in our approach to tackling coronavirus and have been guided by the latest scientific advice throughout … At every stage, the government’s response has been informed by the advice of experts from SAGE and its sub-committees. Our approach is kept under constant review as new international and domestic evidence emerges.”

Darby_ 7:34 Tue Aug 4
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/08/03/covid-19-us-who-doctor-larry-brilliant/5574854002/

“People will need a small yellow card at airports to show immunization against the COVID-19 virus. Schools, restaurants and sports stadiums will be equipped with quick, inexpensive testing stations for students and customers.

The world will be fighting coronavirus the next three to four years as virus hot spots skip from nation to nation and the pandemic's toll will linger for decades, said Dr. Larry Brilliant, a California epidemiologist who was part of a World Health Organization team in the 1970s that helped eradicate smallpox.

But it's "not all doom and gloom" with effective vaccines likely to emerge from dozens of candidates worldwide and effective treatments, including convalescent plasma and monoclonal antibodies, to help people recover more quickly, Brilliant said.

"We will still be chasing the virus four years from now. But it won’t be like (today)," Brilliant told the USA TODAY Editorial Board on Monday afternoon. "It will be like the smallpox eradication program. The polio eradication program. Having yellow fever in some countries and not in others."

Darby_ 4:41 Tue Aug 4
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"think I look rather cool in my crips LA south central bandana..."

So you finally stopped whinging and took up your once in a lifetime opportunity to walk the streets looking like a Central American revolutionary?

BRANDED 1:25 Tue Aug 4
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In A Twist On Loyalty Programs, Emirates Is Promising Travelers A Free Funeral If Infected With Covid

Sweet

El Scorchio 1:02 Tue Aug 4
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Decent prog on C4 about it this evening. Worth a watch.

gph 10:09 Mon Aug 3
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These massless people have taken Boris' plea to lose weight a bit too seriously...

Sven Roeder 10:07 Mon Aug 3
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Has Troy shown you his FANKS FOR ALL THE BEER, BRUV tattoo yet?

Northern Sold 9:53 Mon Aug 3
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360

You sound like the Mask Nazi that was having a screaming match up with a ......wait for it.... a massless woman in b&q yesterday.... right old scene... needed at least 4 b&q massless workers to intervene.... I think the term is mask rage... only 2nd time been in shops... think I look rather cool in my crips LA south central bandana... anyway... think I might visit a few more shops now.... great fun watching all the wars.


Daughter and her boyfriend *spits* came back from a weekend in amsterdam... said apart from wearing a mask on public transport you would never know there was a world wide pandemic killing multi millions of people....

Mike Oxsaw 9:38 Mon Aug 3
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New Jersey 8:50 Mon Aug 3

Nonsense!

Just not enough 'mericans are a-whoopin' and a-hollerin' the puss-ass virus out of Dodge yet, the unpatriotic pinko commie faggots.

Bring a few more states into the fray and Bruce Willis can go fuck himself 'cos Americans will do as only American's can.

threesixty 9:25 Mon Aug 3
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Sociopath:
“a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.“

I’ve started to wonder whether those who refuse to wear a mask amongst people when in a confined space are actually the definition of sociopaths. Or at least “on the spectrum”.

I really think we should monitor these people. Who knows what they are capable of in the long run? I bet most of societies dodgy people you’ll find in that group of belligerent non mask wearers.

rounding up this lot could be like minority report... getting rid of a whole load of potential criminals.... :-)

Ridikzappa 9:11 Mon Aug 3
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The COVID travel pass is coming.

Just give your blood to the authorities. Nothing to worry about. They have your best interests at heart. Bill Gates will save us.

https://youtu.be/aqMoxkHm3mQ

New Jersey 8:50 Mon Aug 3
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If you ignore the government guidelines on social distancing, wearing masks etc, then you're a cunt and Scholes is a ginger cunt!! You can always fuck off to Brazil or the USA where the culture of covid denial has worked wonders for them!

Vexed 8:36 Mon Aug 3
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I wish Branded would die of this virus.

Capitol Man 8:16 Mon Aug 3
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Northern Sold 6:53 Mon Aug 3
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Isn't the numbers with the virus in active circulation going to vastly increase the threat to those with the conditions that make them vulnerable?

And isn't the estimate 20-30% of people have conditions which could increase the risk of serious consequences and death?

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