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goose 12:23 Wed Jan 22
This coronavirus in China
anyone else worried? 9 dead so far.

CNY soon so the virus will spread very quickly if they cannot control it. It'll be in Europe by the end of CNY if not earlier.

is this the end of humanity?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51202216

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Mike Oxsaw 5:42 Tue Jan 18
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Lily Hammer 5:35 Tue Jan 18

No! No! And thrice No!

You cannot say that!

It was those brave souls doing as instructed and taking the vaccine without question that saved the day - and absolutely nothing else.

The virus saw the compliant, vaccinated flock and fucked off sharpish, not daring to challenge the Vax Crusaders in their quest.

Lee Trundle 5:39 Tue Jan 18
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The vaccines have given people the courage to go out and lead as normal life as possible, and that has no doubt helped the spread of infection.

Part of me wonders if that's what they wanted all along.

Natural immunity is what will end this pandemic.

Lily Hammer 5:35 Tue Jan 18
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To say that the jabs have ended the pandemic cannot be known at present. This virus may be running out of steam, just like the Spanish and Hong Kong flus did after 2 or three years, without the help of vaccines.

Lee Trundle 5:29 Tue Jan 18
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"the coercion for everybody to get a jab most did not need is fucking shocking and criminal, spineless knicker wetting cunts like you were at the front of the queue."

Yep. Pickled goes on about getting vaccinated is a "basic sense of duty and elementary common sense".

I've just chosen to forgo mine to allow others in desperate need to get ahead of the queue ahead of me. I mean I reckon there's millions and millions of people in the world who are at more risk that I with covid.

Let them have mine. And the top up one. And the booster one. And the 4th one that will no doubt be coming.

Cabbage Savage 5:25 Tue Jan 18
Re: This coronavirus in China
dRink tHe KooL aiDs

Hammer and Pickle 5:22 Tue Jan 18
Re: This coronavirus in China
How gobby. And very deluded.

thecockneyboy 5:20 Tue Jan 18
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Hammer and Pickle 1:56 Tue Jan 18

Listen to yourself, you total bellend, this virus was never lethal to young, fit or healthy people, the coercion for everybody to get a jab most did not need is fucking shocking and criminal, spineless knicker wetting cunts like you were at the front of the queue.

Mike Oxsaw 5:08 Tue Jan 18
Re: This coronavirus in China
..."... minority and very vocal bit like BLM", and, don't forget, Remain.

Doesn't really matter WHO (which individuals) didn't/won't take the vaccine - the only critical factor is that enough people did to enable the virus to move into an endemic - and therefore more manageable - phase.

What do YOU require to have been different and what difference would it make?

master 4:38 Tue Jan 18
Re: This coronavirus in China
Get your booster! Absolutely vital, shove them in your kids too, definitely necessary and nothing to do with the fact we've already pre-purchased them, whatsoever!

No, don't look at that graph...

joyo 4:13 Tue Jan 18
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"The authorities" already knew such a group would exist and even how large it was likely to be. All they had to do was get the size of that group down to the level they (not you) deemed acceptable.

What a load of bollocks,was it about 7 or 8 % of adult population unvaccinated?Half of which probably out of laziness
No Oxbore the anti vax campaign was not a large group,but a small minority and very vocal bit like BLM

Mike Oxsaw 3:32 Tue Jan 18
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But the virus is on the run. It's beat. What benefit is there to be gained from taking a sanctimonious and falsely perceived moral high ground over those who chose to not take the vaccine?

"The authorities" already knew such a group would exist and even how large it was likely to be. All they had to do was get the size of that group down to the level they (not you) deemed acceptable.

They neither knew or cared who the actual individuals were that made up those numbers, just that the numbers were made up*.








* - and, yes, I know the implied ambiguity in those words. It is deliberate.

Hammer and Pickle 2:55 Tue Jan 18
Re: This coronavirus in China
Being an adult or having common sense can’t be forced on anyone, Sergei. And who am I to help you when clearly so many in a better position to do so have tried and failed? But I can speak my mind and I will - not being your keeper, I’m not all that fussed about how upset you are by what I have to say.

Moncurs Putting Iron 2:49 Tue Jan 18
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Mike Oxsaw 2:31 Tue Jan 18
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Yeah pretty much it. I think the trigger for Toe Knees post was masters name calling and implying anyone who had the jab/observed lockdown/tier/Christmas 'rules' was someone who had been lied to and should feel totally mugged off.

I dont. But then again neither do I feel compelled to become the Jab police and looke down my nose at my friends who chose not to.

Like Lily said it's the silly name calling and sneering lack of respect and lack of appreciation of others different perspective that makes a debate descend into entranched position protection.

riosleftsock 2:48 Tue Jan 18
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Before sanctimonious pricks like Pickle and Toe Knee tell us its our duty etc, just remember there was a poster on here last year who told us all of his horrific side effects from being vaccinated, as he stated he was fit and healthy and at little risk from the jab, but felt under pressure to have the vaccine.

I haven't seen him post for a while, hope he's ok.

Mike Oxsaw 2:31 Tue Jan 18
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The drive was to get a significant majority vaccinated, not everyone, as the grown ups in this debate understood from the beginning that was never going to fly.

As it seems the virus is on the run, a significant majority having been vaccinated, what's the issue?

Lily Hammer 2:24 Tue Jan 18
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"...it is a fact that if you are a normal, healthy person, being vaccinated prevents you from getting serious Covid symptoms...."


That is no way proven as a fact, not how you wrote it there.

Here is a fact, without doubt, that uses quite a few of the words you used.....

It is a fact (FACT) that a normal, healthy person is highly unlikely of getting serious Covid symptoms.

Lee Trundle 2:06 Tue Jan 18
Re: This coronavirus in China
Already having stronger antibodies than the vaccination gives me is a pretty decent case, I reckon.

How's the wife? Has she recovered yet from her vaccination? Your avoidance in answering the question makes me believe there's something you don't want to tell us.

Hammer and Pickle 2:02 Tue Jan 18
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If you can't take the vaccine, it's not a moral issue and has nothing to do with your conscience at all. Trying to build a case for not taking the vaccine and claiming to be a normal rational adult with moral authority is where you are falling flat on your face.

But it's OK - it's not that you don't want to take the jab. You obviously cannot.

Lee Trundle 1:59 Tue Jan 18
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I've just told you I passed it on to no one else, Pickled.

My conscious is clear, and I'm living life (as I pretty much have done over the last couple of years) normally.


How's your wife, by the way? Did she recover from her adverse affects from her vaccination?

Hammer and Pickle 1:56 Tue Jan 18
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"And my vaccination status has no bearing on other lives being at stake, compared to everyone else."

That is objectively wrong at the social level; it is a fact that if you are a normal, healthy person, being vaccinated prevents you from getting serious Covid symptoms, thereby allowing the services to focus on those who need treatment and giving everyone else the chance to avoid having to take measures like harsh social distancing etc.

However, if your point of view is that of a sick person with a mind-set all about avoiding social sanction for not acting like a responsible adult, than yes, your vaccination status does have much less bearing on other people's lives than your other care requirements.

Moncurs Putting Iron 1:55 Tue Jan 18
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*Goes off in search of a thread that Nurse would approve of*

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