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Q: 2021/22 What competition should we prioritise this season?
a. The league is our bread & butter, so this year let's have a club sandwich
b. We're owed an FA Cup after Gerrard nicked our last one in 06, our name's on it in 22
c. A bye to the League Cup 3rd round gives us a good start, let's make it count
d. The Europa is our best ticket to the Champions League, this is the one
e. What's wrong with you, let's do the lot, has the quadruple ever been done

David L 2:55 Mon Mar 9
HMS Victory
Channel 5 10.00 tonight

I always feel my pride at being English is at at its peak
whenever I visit that ship. What happened on those gun decks during battle was something else.

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lowermarshhammer 7:51 Mon Mar 9
Re: HMS Victory
Trafalgar by Roy Adkins
Jack Tar by the same author

ESSENTIAL reading for anyone interested enough to open this thread.

Far Cough 7:31 Mon Mar 9
Re: HMS Victory
The later story, that Nelson's last words were "Kismet [fate] Hardy", aren't supported by any contemporary evidence. In fact, 'kismet' isn't recorded as being in use in English to mean fate until as late as 1830, a quarter of a century after Nelson died. That euphemistic version of events is thought to be a later invention that attempted to avoid embarrassment by covering up the supposed homo-erotic imagery of men kissing. That was misguided in more ways than one, not least because platonic kisses between men at times of great emotion weren't viewed in the way in 19th century England.

Gutted, Swiss?

Hammer and Pickle 7:26 Mon Mar 9
Re: HMS Victory
Some very satisfactory clobber on that Gieves and Hawkes site, thank you gary.

Swiss. 6:59 Mon Mar 9
Re: HMS Victory
Far Clough wrong as usual.

Was "Kismet Hardy"

the coming of gary 5:14 Mon Mar 9
Re: HMS Victory
Nelson used to wear Gieves and Hawkes ... you can still buy their suits today , number one, Savile Row

Northern Sold 3:23 Mon Mar 9
Re: HMS Victory
Amazing the stuff they got over the Naval museum at Greenwich... Nelson's tunic he worse at Trafalgar with fatal bullet holes...

Far Cough 2:57 Mon Mar 9
Re: HMS Victory
Kiss me, Hardy

That's another fine mess...

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