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David L 2:55 Mon Mar 9
HMS Victory
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Channel 5 10.00 tonight
I always feel my pride at being English is at at its peak
whenever I visit that ship. What happened on those gun decks during battle was something else.
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lowermarshhammer
7:51 Mon Mar 9
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Trafalgar by Roy Adkins
Jack Tar by the same author
ESSENTIAL reading for anyone interested enough to open this thread.
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Far Cough
7:31 Mon Mar 9
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The later story, that Nelson's last words were "Kismet [fate] Hardy", aren't supported by any contemporary evidence. In fact, 'kismet' isn't recorded as being in use in English to mean fate until as late as 1830, a quarter of a century after Nelson died. That euphemistic version of events is thought to be a later invention that attempted to avoid embarrassment by covering up the supposed homo-erotic imagery of men kissing. That was misguided in more ways than one, not least because platonic kisses between men at times of great emotion weren't viewed in the way in 19th century England.
Gutted, Swiss?
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Hammer and Pickle
7:26 Mon Mar 9
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Some very satisfactory clobber on that Gieves and Hawkes site, thank you gary.
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Swiss.
6:59 Mon Mar 9
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Far Clough wrong as usual.
Was "Kismet Hardy"
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the coming of gary
5:14 Mon Mar 9
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Nelson used to wear Gieves and Hawkes ... you can still buy their suits today , number one, Savile Row
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Northern Sold
3:23 Mon Mar 9
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Amazing the stuff they got over the Naval museum at Greenwich... Nelson's tunic he worse at Trafalgar with fatal bullet holes...
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Far Cough
2:57 Mon Mar 9
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Kiss me, Hardy
That's another fine mess...
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