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Q: 2021/22 What competition should we prioritise this season?
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36%
  
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21%
  



camel-with-3-humps 10:16 Mon Jul 27
Would these West Ham players make it today?
An interesting chat with a mate, so let’s throw it into here and see what we think.

Today’s Premier League is more technical and competitive with all the spending etc. So who out of these ex-West Ham players would have made the Premier League.

What do you think?

Maybe
- Ian Bishop. Was he actually any good? Maybe a relegated Bournemouth.
- Matin Allen. What did he actually offer? Ran around a lot.
- John Moncur. Again, would he even make a Southampton?

No
- Trevor Morley. Just fell over a lot, hence ‘rag dolls name. Championship at best.
- George Paris. A poor man’s Antonio. Not much chance for this clogger.
- Iain Dowie. A bruiser but not up to much

Yes
- Tony Cottee. Of course, but not a Champions League team.
- Trevor Brooking. Only one who might make a top top team because he was technical.
- Alan Devonshire. A Leicester maybe? Can’t see him at a City. Good player though, of course

Interested to here thoughts...

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Lertie Button 10:24 Mon Jul 27
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Ian Dowie was a poor man's Steve Lomas - two ugly narky cunts who looked very similar to me

Lertie Button 10:18 Mon Jul 27
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George Parris was most successfully a full back so exactly how he was a poor man's Antonio is a mystery to me.

Alex G 9:40 Mon Jul 27
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The way the game is played has changed considerably over the past thirty years - the pitches, allowable tackles, backpass rule, even the balls themselves. Some positions have changed - you don't see many Lineker or Cottee type 'fox in the box' strikers who contribute little elsewhere on the pitch anymore, goalies now have to be comfortable with the ball at feet, etc/

Players naturally adapted their game to the playing conditions they faced; drop in a player from 1980 into today's game and they'd struggle. Drop in a player from 2020 into 1980 and likewise they wouldn't be as effective.

However, give them a season or two to adapt and any top player would modify how they played the game and find a way to be effective.

Takashi Miike 9:04 Mon Jul 27
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*as he was warming up, that is*

Takashi Miike 9:03 Mon Jul 27
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haha, before that the nutty fucker was mimicking the linesman up and down the touchline 😂

Far Cough 8:52 Mon Jul 27
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That must have been it then Mike, thanks

Sven could have at least mentioned that instead of being the Aussie arse that he is

Takashi Miike 8:47 Mon Jul 27
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cough, the quickest yellow I can remember him getting was against boro when he clattered in to ince within about a minute of being on the pitch :.)

Far Cough 8:43 Mon Jul 27
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Sven Roeder 6:29 Mon Jul 27
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John Moncur was sent off 3 times in 156 starts and NEVER when he came on as a sub.
My favourite was in a 2-1 win at Spurs where in the last minute he chopped that dismal midget Jose Dominquez in half


Mind is playing tricks on me then, if he wasn't sent off, he was yellow carded minutes after coming on?

cholo 7:35 Mon Jul 27
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*pre injury Devo obviously *

cholo 7:34 Mon Jul 27
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If anything Devonshire and Brooking would've been more successful than they were in their era due to playmakers getting much more protection these days. Devo had the pace, guile and ability to easily play for a top side.

Cottee could've been sub /back up for a champions league team because he was an excellent poacher.

Bish would've been what he was at West ham, a regular starter for a lower to midtable team, ditto Martin Allen.

Morley's lack of pace might been a problem for him nowadays and Parris though he was popular and put himself about a bit was never really good enough at the time of we're brutally honest.

The less said about Dowie the better.

only1billybonds 6:43 Mon Jul 27
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South.

Players these days are far fitter than they were 30 years ago but i refuse to believe there is anyone playing currently who is fitter than Bonds was at his peak. Alvin seaks of hiim a lot and he is in awe at the standards Bill set in pre season training.

South Woodhammer 6:33 Mon Jul 27
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How much would a Devonshire a Brooking or a Bonds be worth in todays transfer market ? We've paid £45m for Haller and £36m for Anderson , not even on the same planet in terms of ability , guts and effort. The club are valuing Declan Rice at £80m ... as good a player as he is he's not gonna get a stand named after him is he ? All you can ever be is the best in your era , boxers , cricketers , racing drivers whatever. The best will always be the best. Lewis Hamilton better than Senna or Schumacher? Dont think so. Joshua better than Ali ? No way. Broad / Anderson/ Stokes v Malcolm Marshall , Joel Garner , Michael Holding , Curtly Ambrose ? 80s Windies all day.

To suggest that the footballers of yesterday would struggle today with speed and fitness of todays game is just not true. Fitness and strength come with training and diet so unless todays humans have different DNA than those of the last generations players would very quickly adapt. Cream will always rise to the top. The only past Hammer who I can think of from our 'legends' who would probably struggle today and was really a top player would be Julian Dicks ... that's only because with VAR he'd be a walking red card.

Sven Roeder 6:29 Mon Jul 27
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John Moncur was sent off 3 times in 156 starts and NEVER when he came on as a sub.
My favourite was in a 2-1 win at Spurs where in the last minute he chopped that dismal midget Jose Dominquez in half

Morley was an underrated player and far better than many of the endless parade of strikers we have had in the last decade.

goose 6:28 Mon Jul 27
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PL season 1: 16 goals in 49 games

Aside from Hartson has anyone beaten that since???

goose 6:24 Mon Jul 27
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brick_lane_batty_boy 4:35 Mon Jul 27
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No fucking way would Trevor Morely get near a Championship side never mind a Premier league team.

WTF??
Morley’s goal scoring record stands up against 99% of the shit we’ve had since.

boleynkid 6:20 Mon Jul 27
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Devonshire was top quality who would get into any side. Went past players for fun.Bobby Robson told him he was going to build the England team around him. That's how good he was.

Interesting that Billy Bonds is not on the list. Whether 40 years ago or now, first requirement you need to succeed is skill, fitness and desire and Bill had all that in abundance.

TC at his best was certainly good enough. You always need someone to finish off the moves and he was better than most. More of a natural finisher than someone like Rashford.

boleynkid 6:11 Mon Jul 27
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Zico 6:05

Exactly right. For me Rice is a bit of a throwback to the old days inasmuch as his game isn't based on tricks and flicks and for me it is pleasing that his style of play sees him as one of the hottest properties in English football.

Antonio would probably do ok but many whose game is based on touch etc would have struggled with the pitches for a start and of course the aforementioned tackles.

Far Cough 6:10 Mon Jul 27
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The only thing Moncur was good at was getting himself sent off just minutes after he came on

Northern Sold 6:07 Mon Jul 27
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camel-with-3-humps 11:06 Mon Jul 27
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Noble is a great passer. As good as Bishop.





Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.... brilliant....

zico 6:05 Mon Jul 27
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boleynkid 5:56 Mon Jul 27

Especially if they had the same on field mentality as they have today. Can see quite a few wanting to come off once the tackles start flying in!

What amazes me these days is the lack of a left foot in most of the modern day players, or a right foot if left footed. So many players are so predictable because it's plainly obvious what they are going to do whereas someone like Devonshire could go inside or outside and he would change pace whilst running at the opposition. As someone said below there are few players who can run with the ball now like a Dev, Best or Gascoigne and you won't see a centre forward like Jimmy Greaves these days with probably the closest being someone like Aguero.

brick_lane_batty_boy 6:05 Mon Jul 27
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Moncur would definitely have made the cut. Technically another good player. People like Mad Dog, Morely, Georgie Parris wouldn't get near the Premier League

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