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Q: 2020/2021 Where will we finish up this season?
a. Top Four, Champions League here we come
7%
  
b. 5th-7th Europa League is well within our grasp
1%
  
c. 8th to 14th anywhere in mid table is about right
13%
  
d. We're in a dog fight before a ball has been kicked and we'll do well to finish 17th or just above
38%
  
e. GSB have derailed our season before a ball has been kicked, the Championship beckons
41%
  



Mr Anon 12:19 Mon Sep 14
Premier league interest payments to club owners last 5 years

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Crassus 8:22 Fri Sep 18
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Ok Westside, thank you

Westside 8:20 Fri Sep 18
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A question on the recent share issue - Rather than another interest bearing loan, my thinking was that given Tripp had bought in, they dilute his holding by a further share issue and therefore increase their return when the club is sold?

No, it was a rights issue, so new shares issued in the same ratio as existing shares, so shareholdings not diluted.

One minority share owner did not take up their rights, so Sullivan bought their shares, marginally increasing his shareholding.

Crassus 7:27 Fri Sep 18
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Vexed
Our numbers, how ever the graphic appears, is entirely correct, as pointed out previously

Ashley put in £200m when he bought Newcastle and cleared an otherwise impending demise, he has charged zero interest

A question on the recent share issue - Rather than another interest bearing loan, my thinking was that given Tripp had bought in, they dilute his holding by a further share issue and therefore increase their return when the club is sold? Caused me a minor moment of excitement

Vexed 7:10 Fri Sep 18
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Everyone on twitter is just some bloke on Twitter. Anyone that reads too much into shit they read on twitter is a foooool.

No wonder this country is in such a mess.

Far Cough 6:17 Fri Sep 18
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On the plus side, Villa and Liverpool have decent Yank owners, in Liverpool's case not the first ones, who apparently were proper cunts

Mr Anon 5:59 Fri Sep 18
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Got to say, bit worried about American ownership after looking at Arsenal and Man UTD. Guess it can't be much worse though

Mr Anon 5:51 Fri Sep 18
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Ps this table is one of many on an in depth analysis of club finances. You can find it here if you're interested

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1305397873803177984

Mr Anon 5:44 Fri Sep 18
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He's not just "some bloke from twitter" he's well respected in sports journalism, hence why he's followed by a lot of famous names in the industry

Vexed 5:39 Fri Sep 18
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Some bloke on Twitter. Highly reputable. You're basing your entire whinge on this. Get a grip.

Far Cough 4:53 Fri Sep 18
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@SwissRamble

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Far Cough 4:52 Fri Sep 18
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The source is printed on the graphic, you thick cunt, Vexed

Vexed 4:49 Fri Sep 18
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Any source on this terrible chart yet?

Westside 4:32 Fri Sep 18
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What the above also tells us is that there is interest on £45m still owed to them for 5+ years.which must be around another £15m...


With interest rates of 4.25%, it's closer to £9.5 million, for 5 more years.

Only it's 3 and a bit years, with the loans being due to be repaid on 1 January 2024

Willtell 10:23 Fri Sep 18
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"West Ham have paid the sixth-highest bank interest payments in the past five years within the Premier League according to research published by football finance expert SwissRamble.

West Ham have paid out an additional £19.7m interest to owners David Sullivan and David Gold in respect of shareholder loans made between 2011 and 2014 with £45m loans outstanding."

That's from C&H and it says that after GSB said they wouldn't draw interest payments they did in fact take almost £20m for themselves.

What the above also tells us is that there is interest on £45m still owed to them for 5+ years.which must be around another £15m...

All from owners that kept telling us they would not take their interest payments!

13 Brentford Rd 11:49 Wed Sep 16
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They are LIARS! Made a big fanfare in the first couple of years about how they were reducing the debt. 10 years on we're still in debt and penniless, this after selling our home and reducing overheads by renting a stadium for peanuts.

Why would they clear the debt when they are skimming off millions in interest.

Try getting onto to 5Live or Talkshite to point this out and you'll have no chance, whilst they get the thickest callers possible to rant on about the lack of "PASSION" in the players and how GSB "saved us"

Mex Martillo 7:48 Wed Sep 16
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What about interest payments to non-owners?
How does that add up?

Westside 2:26 Tue Sep 15
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( they will spin it as clearing 3rd party debt no doubt?)

Every year, we seem to have a "payday" loan, in anticipation of receipt of Sky monies. So that hasn't been cleared.

And £39 million was to be repaid in July this year, for the latest payday loan. Maybe why player sale monies, haven't been spent?

Moncurs Putting Iron 2:20 Tue Sep 15
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This is the sort of stuff that Five live callers in need to have in their hands so they don't get manipulated and look clueless and fickle.

Gentleman Jim 2:17 Tue Sep 15
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By the look of it - Even Mike Ashley isn't charging interest. And the bloke doesnt even like his club. Bonkers.

Sir Alf 2:13 Tue Sep 15
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They are not fans. We know that. The thing that "grinds my gears" is the promise of clearing debts Brady made in the first few years of ownership ( they will spin it as clearing 3rd party debt no doubt?). Lies. They are liars which apparently Sullivan resents more than any other name he is called. So that is how we will refer to him from now on without exception :-)

Fo the Communist 1:59 Tue Sep 15
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Surf - I think we are in agreement.

Bottom line for me is that if they were 'real fans' they would just write of the debt and discussions about interest rates would be academic.
But they aren't and they don't.

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