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VirginiaHam 10:49 Fri Dec 4
Moyes and the Independent

This is a good read; it's only spoilt because I've supported WHU for a long time and I'm used to disaster being just around the corner.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-ham/david-moyes-manchester-united-preview-b1766048.html

zico 1:27 Sat Dec 5
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I think we are more direct than long ball in the Burnley/old Wimbledon sense but as said below we don't have two Trevor Brookings in central midfield so you have to play to your strengths.

Was watching some of the old 85/86 stuff last night on You Tube and whilst a lot of stuff was played on the floor even that side was pretty direct with balls over the top for McAvennie and Cottee. At the same time there were a lot of technically gifted players in that side which we don't have a lot of now so they could also keep possession and play the short passing but it wasn't a Barcelona tippy tappy style.

LeroysBoots 1:23 Sat Dec 5
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Great article in the Telegraph from Jason Burt on Cresswell

Do you know he still cleans his own boots

Is very level headed and down to earth

Says the current squad is tighter than he has ever known it

Maybe due to the big time charlies gone now

geoffpikey 11:00 Sat Dec 5
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We ARE long ball much of the time, if not always straight down the middle. Surely everyone can see that.

Chigwell 10:55 Sat Dec 5
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The article isn't quite up to date on Haller, who has recently shown some signs of emerging from his year-long torpor. We can't hope to stay in the top half all season unless Haller starts performing as a proper striker.

Stowie.40 10:36 Sat Dec 5
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Think the long ball line is absolutely spot on. That’s exactly how we play, hit the channels for Antonio. We hardly play free flowing football, I mean our midfield is very workmanlike but doesn’t posses bundles of quality with the ball. It’s working so fair play though.

BRANDED 10:31 Sat Dec 5
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The only question is “ will the defensive qualities of the team suddenly collapse meaning we lose a bunch of matches?”
Today is a decent test.

Mex Martillo 10:18 Sat Dec 5
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Alternatively Sir Alf, we may go on in the same way picking up plenty of points and the journalists can go into orgasm mode when writing about West Ham.

Certainly interesting days to come over Christmas.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:53 Sat Dec 5
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More like 10 of them, Proper

PwoperNaughtyButNot 9:26 Sat Dec 5
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That’s the beauty of football Alf

If you were able to get the 20 best managers in the world, load up their squads evenly with the best players on the planet and then give them all an equal budget 3 of them would still be classed as shit and in need of the sack by the media and the fans alike at the end of the season.

Sir Alf 8:41 Sat Dec 5
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Darby and “Fo” that’s so true.

Journalism that is so shallow and uses the rationalization a young child ( and some on this site ) uses. Win and we are world beaters and lose we are “shit”. Nothing in between:-)

That said the narrative or story is as old as time. The “comeback” tale always appeals to most people. The journos look at us in 5th place and decide it's time to use it without looking deeper.

2 or 3 losses and / or run of games without a win and the more familiar “crisis” templates will be dusted off. :-) followed by “Moyes on the brink”

Mex Martillo 8:27 Sat Dec 5
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Thanks Virginia, good read.
I didn’t like the long ball comment and don’t think it is true.

Darby_ 3:52 Sat Dec 5
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Weirdly enough, two botched penalties have transformed us from also-rans to contenders.*


* Poetic license.

Fo the Communist 12:32 Sat Dec 5
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Such are the vagaries of newspaper narratives, if Ollie Watkins scores that penalty, then the article doesn't get written never mind published.

Hermit Road 11:33 Fri Dec 4
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As URLs go it was ok I suppose but I wouldn’t call it a ‘good’ read.

Alex Bunbury 11:23 Fri Dec 4
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That’s a decent assessment. We seem fitter, more organised and more unified under Moyes. Transfer dealings have also been good. I feel, though, we have ridden our luck with injuries and I would argue that there is still a lack of depth in some areas of the squad, most notably up front that may come back to haunt us.