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Q: 2020/2021 Where will we finish up this season?
a. Top Four, Champions League here we come
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10%
  
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31%
  
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24%
  
e. GSB have derailed our season before a ball has been kicked, the Championship beckons
26%
  



Sven Roeder 9:18 Sun Apr 4
Records .....In The Premier League era
Watching a replay of MOTD and they put up a graphic of Chelsea's worst home defeats .... as usual .... IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE ERA
Seems they've never lost at home by more than 3 goals
(HINT : March 29 1986 Chelsea 0 West Ham 4)

Why is this lazy pitiful record keeping allowed to dominate ahead of records being shown as Top Division (ie Division 1 & Premier League)?
Why is the true history of the game ignored?

By the way with all these goal scoring leaders of Shearer, Henry, Kane etc the true leading scorers in the top division are :
1. Greaves 357 2. Shearer 283 3. Lofthouse 253 4. Rush 233 5.Herd 233 6. Cottee 215 7. Hurst 211 8. Allen(WBA) 210 9. Rooney 208 10. Law 201

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Jim C 12:58 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
This is because to broadcasters and their highly paid staff who present and/or offer 'expert analysis', football didnt exist before the Premier League came along.

Lato 12:35 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
On The Ball 10:03 Sun Apr 4
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Vic Watson?

Our own Vic Watson got 203 goals in 295 1st Division games

southbankbornnbred 12:29 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
In practice, I agree with the sentiment entirely: it's shite.

BUT

It's because the Premier League is an unrelated league and, in administrative and legal terms, has absolutely nothing to do with the old top four divisions or Football League. Only the membership of the Premier League transferred from Div1 upon its creation - and that was upon the (econimically forced) agreement of the teams and rival Football League.

It's a separate league, run by a separate (rival) body, and administered as such. So it sets its own "records" according to its own history.

It's bollocks, but we have to live with it. West Ham's 4-0 win at Chelsea was in the Football League. So the Premier League ignores it.

Ask Greg Dyke why he started the damn thing by talking to the "Big Five" about a breakaway in the early 90s (although the answer will be £££). Of course, it backfired on Greg in the end, too.

A decent comparison would be when the NFL was created by the merger of the two leagues that became the conferences. NFL stats don't go back to the pre-NFL era - yet some of the better franchises are a hundred years old.

Tomshardware 12:21 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Cottee and other forwards who scored all or majority of their goals pre premier league era often seem to be largely forgotten in terms of great goalscorers, sky sports has seen to that.

zico 12:12 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
They have seem to have gone the way of tennis where they concentrate on the Open Era. However golf and athletics seem still to accept the greats from days gone past, although I think UK Athletics wanted all World Records scrubbed clean a few years back. Can you imagine if golf and athletics conveniently forgot the contribution of the likes of Nicklaus, Player, Coe or Ovett like they seem to in football!

cholo 10:03 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
I saw an interview with Cottee, ruing the fact he's criminally underrated and little mentioned when it comes to modern day top flight goal scorers, all because his goals are split between division one and premier league. The bloke was fucking quality on front of goal.

On The Ball 9:47 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Iron Duke 10:38 Sun Apr 4

I must admit, I had no idea he was that high on the list.

Mike Oxsaw 9:46 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Bet he's never had an Algerian fuck his girlfriend.

Come On You Irons 9:35 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
This curtain twitching, woe-is-me, plastic Aussie freak don't half get wound up by some mundane shit. What a miserable, pathetic life he must lead.

Mike Oxsaw 8:35 Mon Apr 5
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Whoever mentions the Premier League the most times gets a free school dinner at the end of the season.

Points taken away for using the words "Division One".

Iron Duke 10:38 Sun Apr 4
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Tony Cottee doesn’t get the credit he deserves, even from West Ham fans. That is pretty impressive.

Long Lost 10:31 Sun Apr 4
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_first_tier_top_scorers

Iron Duke 10:29 Sun Apr 4
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
I think Sven is completely ignoring pre-war top flight football.

What a wanker.

Far Cough 10:12 Sun Apr 4
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Carlton F Cole?

On The Ball 10:03 Sun Apr 4
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Vic Watson?

On The Ball 10:02 Sun Apr 4
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Dixie Dean?

Far Cough 9:22 Sun Apr 4
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Jimmy Greaves was miles ahead of anyone else, a proper poacher's poacher

Hermit Road 9:20 Sun Apr 4
Re: Records .....In The Premier League era
Yeah it’s rubbish, another reason to not listen to anything commentators say if you can help it





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