WHO Poll
Q: 2021/22 What competition should we prioritise this season?
a. The league is our bread & butter, so this year let's have a club sandwich
27%
  
b. We're owed an FA Cup after Gerrard nicked our last one in 06, our name's on it in 22
10%
  
c. A bye to the League Cup 3rd round gives us a good start, let's make it count
6%
  
d. The Europa is our best ticket to the Champions League, this is the one
36%
  
e. What's wrong with you, let's do the lot, has the quadruple ever been done
21%
  



Lato 11:38 Thu May 13
The Arsenal goal last night
Came from a back pass by Jorghino that Arrizablaga cleared off the line with his hand. If Smith Rowe had missed the chance to score which he nearly did what would have been the refs decision?

Replies - Newest Posts First (Show In Chronological Order)

Pee Wee 6:56 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
‘I am fully conversant with the laws of the game’



You have any idea what a ponce that made you sound?





I think I agree with you, but that’s based on last nights incident. If the laws changed to reflect something that I’ve never seen before and likely won’t again, I think it would cause problems down the line.

The next one might not be so black and white, which leaves us with a ref or VAR to decide whether it was a goal scoring opportunity.

So although I probably agree, I also probably wouldn’t change the law as it stands. Apart from maybe make it a yellow card offence. No sanction against the keeper at all seems wrong.

But that in itself would probably raise problems.

Razzle 6:44 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Pee Wee I am fully conversant with the laws of the game.
We know the correct answer.
What I am suggesting is that this is not in the spirit of the game. The offence is not the back pass but the handling of the ball...

My point here is that it is a deliberate action to handle the ball to prevent a goal at the cost of a free kick.
The keeper knows he should not handle the ball from a back pass, likewise handling the ball outside the area - cynical actions. However outside the penalty area in a DOGSO scenario results in a sending off, what I am suggesting is that this action is equal to it......and yes I know this is not in law but I believe is something that should be considered in the revision at the end of the season.

If that action stopped a team qualifying for the champions league by not winning the game, the financial outcome of the decision is huge and the uproar that would ensew would be back page material.

The sanction does not befit the offence

Pee Wee 5:57 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
It’s not the same offence though.


One is a handball the other is a back pass.

Razzle 5:38 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Its an interesting scenario because that instance it's not "in the spirit of the game" IFK is awarded and no sanction for the keeper.... then the opposing team don't score from the IFK. Keeper comes out of the area deliberately handballs DOGSO red card. Its a premeditated action to prevent the other team from scoring. This is very similar except it is in the penalty area in which case nothing happens apart from the IFK. The sanction does not befit the action - one for IFAB to mess about with.

Pee Wee 5:24 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Sarcasm in my last post missed I see.

Fifth Column 5:20 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
DOGSO was introduced to reduce cynical fouls and handballs. Backpass rule was introduced to stop time wasting, not so that keepers couldn't stop ball going in their own goal.

I don't think we can expect a keeper not to react to save a misplaced pass heading to goal. Logically you'd then say he should just stand and watch it go in if you made it DOGSO.

Its an anomoly in the laws but I think its correct that it's only an IFK given the reasons the laws were implemented.

Razzle 4:39 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Having had a look fifth is spot on with the IDK on six-yard line.
However, why would this not be considered a DOGSO by handball (yes I know that the keeper can handle in his area) in this instance he is not permitted to handle the ball from the back pass - it is a deliberate action, its not in the law but i would suggest it should be a sending off offence.

Pee Wee 3:53 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Cheers fifth

Fifth Column 3:52 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Indirect free kick on edge of six yard box

Pee Wee 3:21 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Don’t think so Cheesey.


No arguments here Sven

Lato 3:20 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
What is the back-pass rule? The back-pass rule states that a goalkeeper is forbidden to handle the ball when passed to them by a team-mate, according to Law 12, Section 2 of the Laws of the Game.4 Feb 2020

Sven Roeder 3:17 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
All my statements are what I would prefer to be the laws

Not what the cunty refs are meant to do.
My final change would be that at the end of the season every Premier league referee should be fed feet first into rotating blades after being set on fire

Cheezey Bell-End 3:13 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
I haven't actually seen it but I believe keepers are allowed to make a save from a backpass, just not pick it up or handle it unnecessarily.

Timmy Breacker 2:52 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Remember David BURROWS smashing in an indirect free kick from six yards against Citeh on our first ever Monday Night Football.

Pee Wee 2:44 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
At this moment i feel the same.

When a ball is hand balled on the line and we miss the last minute penalty to win us the cup, I reserve the right to change my mind

Manuel 2:34 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
I only want to see a goal awarded if the ball actually goes into the goal. But hey, that's just me.

Pee Wee 2:27 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Sven


It wouldn’t have been a yellow

Sven Roeder 2:16 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Unless its for dangerous violent tackles I am in favour of trying to keep players on the pitch.
Shouldnt gain by handling & making someone score a pen so would call it a yellow and an awarded goal

Manuel 2:06 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Sniper - Decent point about the rule should be the same for a keeper, ie sent off for stopping a goal, although these situations like last night are very rare anyway. Not sure about a goal being allowed though, how much do we want to change?

Sven Roeder 2:04 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Ref did well to play the advantage and allow to score.
If he hadnt scored I think it should come back for an indirect free kick on the six yard box after the keeper gets a yellow.
Given the ball is 6yds from the goal no defenders other than the keeper should be allowed to stand on the line.

Thats what it should be
Also agree with this idea of a the equivalent of a penalty try for a deliberate handball on the line or a foul for a pen when it isnt a genuine attempt to play the ball.
I'd give a yellow and an automatic goal in that situation.

Pee Wee 1:59 Thu May 13
Re: The Arsenal goal last night
Sniper, I agree. Crazy that the keep doesn’t even receive a yellow. Should be instant red.

Lato, yes indirect free kick to be taken on edge of 6yard box

Page 1 - Next




Copyright 2006 WHO.NET | Powered by: