WHO Poll
Q: 2021/22 What competition should we prioritise this season?
a. The league is our bread & butter, so this year let's have a club sandwich
27%
  
b. We're owed an FA Cup after Gerrard nicked our last one in 06, our name's on it in 22
11%
  
c. A bye to the League Cup 3rd round gives us a good start, let's make it count
6%
  
d. The Europa is our best ticket to the Champions League, this is the one
35%
  
e. What's wrong with you, let's do the lot, has the quadruple ever been done
21%
  



Coffee 7:55 Thu Jul 29
China - a threat to the world as we know it?
The world order is changing in China's favour.

China is flexing its muscles as never before. From cyber terrorism to the repression of a million Uighurs to owning a large portion of US debt to territorial claims to lands outside its borders, and possibly to responsibility for the Covid-19 pandemic. And more.

Is it worth it just so that we can buy stuff cheaper?

Would you feel happy to live in a world with China as the dominant superpower?

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Coffee 12:43 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Mr Kenzo 12:35 Thu Jul 29

If the Chinese start policing you, you'll be gagging for the Yanks to return.

Mike Oxsaw 12:40 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Lee Trundle 12:34 Thu Jul 29

Firstly, China is not a 22 mile row across the channel offering free housing and benefits, and, secondly, Islam is an ARABIC religeon and ONLY Arabs can be regarded as truly Muslim - all others are the plastic variety who were originally convinced to "convert" for the purposes of trade between Arabic and non-Arabic nations.

The SHIT you learn through actually living and working for extended periods in such places, eh?

Mr Kenzo 12:35 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
It will make a change from the Yanks being the World Police, Cunts

ak37 12:34 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
I’m more worried about Russia poisoning people on UK soil.

Lee Trundle 12:34 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Speaking about Islam, how come the muslims in the rest of the world don't really give a shit about the Uyghurs?

Surely the martyrs amongst them would be dying to get their 72 virgins by visiting China?

Mike Oxsaw 12:26 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
, 11:36 Thu Jul 29

Life is not a game of bridge, you fucking simpleton. Nobody takes "turns" at this sort of thing.

The Chinese can only become a dominant influence if all of the other politico-social groups in the world let them.

The West may do that through woke and Islam through self-defeating fanaticism, but both need to happen at the same time - either one will keep the Chinese in check for decades.

Other minor groups may play a small role but the future of China is very much in the hands of the two groups I mentioned - and definitely not their own.

RBshorty 11:52 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Empire’s come. Empire’s go. That’s the way it always been. They have the bodies.(Down to them.) And the money.(Down to Western society.) Fortunately it will be a death by a thousand cut. And not a big explosion. That’s how the big empire’s usually fall.(The history books are full of that shit.)

Anyhow. As the Chinese themselves say. “May you live in interesting times.!”

Northern Sold 11:46 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
A population of dog eaters... and for that reason... I would go to war with them...

, 11:36 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
The occident has had its turn at modern world dominance and now it’s the turn of the orient. For me it’s not who dominates but how they are governed that counts and in that respect Chinese dominance is not a prospect to relish.

Mike Oxsaw 11:28 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
"You can not believe anything from the CCP "

Unless you really (REALLY) want/need to. Then it's OK.

riosleftsock 11:14 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Takashi Miike 8:40 Thu Jul 29

In the late 60s to 79 the ccp had a 2 child policy, followed by a 1 child policy from 79 to 2015

A rate of anything less that 2.1 kids per family would lead to population decline, unless mitigated by immigration.

So, in 1965 CCP had a population of 700m odd and now its suggested the population is 1.4bn

You can not believe anything from the CCP

zebthecat 11:08 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Lee Trundle 10:20 Thu Jul 29

Yep

Mike Oxsaw 10:47 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
terry-h 10:40 Thu Jul 29

It's not so much the money they will bring, but the money they will more than likely earn (for the country) when they are here.

Hong Kong was a magnet for innovators & entrepreneurs for decades and the Chinese seem intent on clearing all that out in their drive for a "One China" solution.

Chigwell 10:43 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Economic power, huge population, plus totalitarian state = a huge threat to the rest of the world.

terry-h 10:40 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
We still have no clue how many Hong Kongers will want to move to the UK under the special visa arrangements.
British officials estimate around 300,000 will arrive in the next five years.
At least most of them will bring money unlike the Africans paddling across the Channel.

Lee Trundle 10:20 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Their Belt and Road Initiative is basically debt-trap diplomacy, isn't it?

Darby_ 9:34 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
*"the revival of the Quad between India, the US, Japan and Australia."

Darby_ 9:32 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Personally I think that the 'threat' from China is exaggerated for a number of reasons. Firstly I wouldn't be surprised if it got stuck in what economists call the 'middle income trap' and its economy started stagnating in the next decade or two. Its demographic collapse is a huge problem and is similar to the one that Japan faced in the 80s before it went into two "Lost Decades" of economic stagnation.

Secondly, it's learning the limits of its power internationally. Its attempt to try to coerce countries like Australia with a trade war have gone nowhere and just made China very unpopular internationally. Its border attacks on India have gone nowhere and just inspired the revival of the Quad between India, the US, Japan and China. This is, from memory, maybe the first time that India has moved away from its non-aligned stance, which is an absolute strategic disaster for China. Sanctioning EU official has sabotaged the EU-China trade deal. The whole Wolf Warrior thing has been a counter-productive debacle.

As for China owning US debt, it's a bit of a nothingburger issue, especially in this age of low interest rates. As the saying goes, if you owe someone a million dollars, it's your problem. If you owe someone a billion dollar, it's their problem. One reason China might not want to go to war is that if they do they may never get that money back.

Mike Oxsaw 8:50 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
China has an excellent reputation of buying the silence/support of the right people (nobody on here in that category).

Look at how they've dragged WHO along with their rhetoric and those UK citizens pulling for Huawei in the 5G upgrade.

I wouldn't bet against more "incidents" among the Sino-Indian border in the next few weeks as part of their "divert attention away from other things" strategy.

Of course the press will go gleefully along. What makes better potential copy/click-bait than (the image of) bits of dead bodies splattered all over the place?

Takashi Miike 8:40 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
why does a country with a population of over 1.4 billion have only 4636 convid deaths (92811 total cases)? this, the country where it was allegedly so bad, they were shovelling bodies off the street when it all kicked off

Mike Oxsaw 8:34 Thu Jul 29
Re: China - a threat to the world as we know it?
Given that China so generously donated Covid to the betterment of the world in preference to sharing with it's own population, it's not unreasonable to be linking both.

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