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Irish Hammer 4:11 Wed Sep 22
Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds

Sorry if done before.


Safe standing to be allowed in Premier League from January

Fans will be allowed to stand at Premier League and Championship stadiums for the first time in more than 25 years as part of a pilot programme that begins on January 1, as reported by The Athletic on Monday.

The Sports Ground Safety Authority (SGSA) is to invite expressions of interest from clubs in the two leagues to have pilots of safe standing this season.

Clubs must apply to be part of the ‘early adopter’ programme by October 6.

If approved, clubs will be able to operate a safe standing area from New Year's Day until the end of the season.

The introduction of designated safe standing areas in stadiums will see an end to the blanket ban on standing in the top two divisions of English football.

Sports minister Nigel Huddleston said: “We have been clear that we will work with fans and clubs towards introducing safe standing at football grounds providing there was evidence that installing seating with barriers would have a positive impact on crowd safety.

“With independent research now complete, and capacity crowds back at grounds across the country, now is the right time to make progress.

“I look forward to hearing from clubs who wish to be part of our early adopters programme during the second half of this season.”

Martyn Henderson, Chief Executive of the SGSA, added: “The focus of the SGSA is the safety and enjoyment of all fans at sports grounds.

“We know many fans want the choice to stand and, with the advent of new engineering solutions, our research has shown how this can be managed safely. Today’s announcement will enable us to properly test and evaluate licensed standing areas before the Government decides its next steps.

“The introduction of licensed standing areas follows research conducted during the 2019/20 season, prior to the onset of the pandemic, which found that seats with barriers/independent barriers helped reduce the safety risks related to persistent standing.”

Why have fans not been able to stand in the past?

The Taylor Report, published after the Hillsborough disaster when 97 Liverpool fans died after attending an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest at Sheffield Wednesday’s stadium in April 1989, recommended steps needed to be made to make football grounds safer.

As a consequence, with only occasional exemptions, all-seater stadiums have been compulsory in the top-flight division since the start of the 1994-95 season.

Standing has not been permitted in the top flight since the 2001-02 season when Fulham’s Craven Cottage made its return to the Premier League with banks of terracing still in place.

Scottish football, not answerable to the SGSA, allowed Celtic to permit safe standing inside their 60,000 capacity stadium in the summer of 2016.

Which clubs already have rail seats in place?

Manchester United have installed 1,500 rail seats in J Stand, in the lower north east corner of the ground while Manchester City have 5,620 in the lower tier of the Etihad Stadium’s South Stand.

Chelsea have also added rail seats in three different areas at Stamford Bridge and Liverpool have put 7,800 on The Kop and in the Anfield Road Stand.

The Athletic also understands Leeds will be adding them in Elland Road’s Don Revie Stand this season.

Tottenham Hotspur and Wolverhampton Wanderers have had thousands of rail seats in their ground for the last two years, ready and waiting for the expected legislative change.

What criteria do clubs need to meet in order to have safe standing?

The clubs have to meet five points in order to receive Government and SGSA approval:

The necessary infrastructure being in place such as seats with barriers/independent barriers which must be in both home and away sections.
Fans must be able to sit or stand in the licensed area the seats cannot be locked in the up or down position. There must also be one seat/space per person.
The licensed standing areas must not impact the viewing standards or other fans, including disabled fans.
There must be a Code of Conduct in place for fans in the licensed standing area.
The ground must consult with its Safety Advisory Group about plans for the licensed standing areas.

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Mike Oxsaw 2:20 Thu Oct 7
Re: Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds
So that will be 4 of the Big Splitter 6 (because the media have now come out and said that the atmosphere adds to their viewers' match-day experience), and a couple of teams in the Championship unlikely to get promotion during the trial season.

Lee Trundle 1:58 Thu Oct 7
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Safe standing trial: Six Premier League and Championship clubs apply to take part

Gold0 praised himself for starting talks about safe standing 5 years ago, so presumably we'll be one of them.

*strokes CHINNY*

Sven Roeder 12:38 Thu Sep 23
Re: Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds
About time
Every other top division team has suffered because Liverpool fans forced their way into Hillsborough and killed their own fans.

Plenty of room to fit fans on the running track at London Stadium up to the edge of the pitch WHITE HORSE FINAL style.

Syd Puddefoot 11:59 Wed Sep 22
Re: Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds
Our new end seating is compatible with safe standing. That has been stated.

Exiled In Surrey 10:11 Wed Sep 22
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I never sit down during the game.

cup of tea 9:19 Wed Sep 22
Re: Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds
Pointless for 2 reasons

People stand anyway
Will never recreate the atmosphere of proper standing on terraces

Helmut Shown 7:28 Wed Sep 22
Re: Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds
I hope they dont allow Liverpool to have it after their previous record.

Mike Oxsaw 7:10 Wed Sep 22
Re: Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds
Need to look at the detail.

If it does not specifically specify that the seat needs to be in the standing area, a few white plastic chairs on the party deck will tick the box.

Sadly, I'm beyond the age where I could enjoy standing at a football match, but I fully support giving the young'uns the opportunity.

Lily Hammer 7:00 Wed Sep 22
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That says one person can stand per seat space. What a load of rubbish. The Germans allow more; something like 5 people for every 4 seats, or 4 for 3. There’s a rail for every row, so you should be able to pack people in side by side more than 1 for 1.

ludo21 6:51 Wed Sep 22
Re: Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds
BML (and other areas) have always stood anyway.

I'm surprised (well not actually) that when they squared off the ends they didn't install rails then.

If our landlords allow I suppose it will enable us to squeeze a few more in both ends.

Hopefully we can finally move the capacity up to 66k in any case which with safe standing would take it up to around 68k.

RM10 5:52 Wed Sep 22
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Can we get chav corner back! Stop all the moaners who sit down don’t sing brigade

Mike Oxsaw 5:46 Wed Sep 22
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If it means that we can increase the ground's capacity, Gold will get his shovel out and sort the rake issue himself.

Mr Anon 5:43 Wed Sep 22
Re: Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds
Have we got the rake to allow this? I guess the stand sections could all be at the back rows but sort of defeats the object

⚒️ 5:28 Wed Sep 22
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If the owners have any sense they should set about getting standing installed behind the goals ASAP.

Wils 5:16 Wed Sep 22
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Stood up for the whole of Sunday's game. Think they have given up making people sit.

Mike Oxsaw 5:11 Wed Sep 22
Re: Safe Standing to Return to Premier League Grounds
We have "Surprise standing" now, where everyone sitting in front of you suddenly stands up and catches you by surprise.

It will be Sponsored Standing if the board have anything to do with it.

WHU(Exeter) 4:25 Wed Sep 22
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Why do they have to call it SAFE standing?

It wasn't the actual simple act of standing in itself that caused any of the tradegies. Have people been trained to stand in a different nd more safer sort of pose? More weight on your stronger foot maybe?

Will we have to wear high vis? Sign disclaimers of it turns out it wasn't as safe as advertised?





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