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Nutsin 7:52 Sat Jan 15
Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Lots of talk here that he is about to invade Ukraine.

NATO and the US won’t get involved but heavy sanctions have been threatened and Putin has threatened ending all diplomatic ties with the west.

Latest is that Putin will stage an attack making it look like Ukraine starts the conflict.

What’s being reported over there?

Is it about to kick off?

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Northern Sold 2:34 Fri Jan 27
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
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Capitol Man 1:57 Fri Jan 27
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
I’d be surprised if Xi sees out his current term he’s set aside a lot of the reforms that helped China thrive to secure his personal power base.

If the economy doesn’t rev back up post-Covid then they’ll be a few looking to replace him.

Capitol Man 1:46 Fri Jan 27
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Another shit source from the bovine sphincter.

You really are scum Bovine.

riosleftsock 12:11 Fri Jan 27
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
More videos coming out from Jan 6th last year, some pretty shocking stuff.

You can find them at Gatewaypundit, make your own mind up. I'm not posting links, you can find them yourselves. The J6 investigation needs to continue and broaden its scope.

Hammer and Pickle 9:58 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Not really interested in what the Kremlin plan would see.

But I am curious why you suppose we ought to be taking it into account when it comes to policy and risk-assessment.

riosleftsock 9:58 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Crassus

I agree China has more problems at home than abroad, normally their biggest concern of their army fighting abroad is not being able to feed them or they leg it. But you ignore the US domestic issues and the problem of trade moving away from the dollar, the US is in a bad place too as are we.

Fortunately our politicians work round the clock to improve our lives every day (sarc)

Crassus 9:55 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
I lied, but this is absolutely the last word
No one wins a nuclear war, that is certain
And I tend to agree, their first hit would be Europe, but hit us/France and we strike back, so Poland/Germany/Baltics

Crassus 9:52 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Rio

My final offering tonight
China is fucked, domestically crippled, it will not go to war with the USA - the worlds largest importer of fuel, food and external goods dependent upon export with a navy that can't travel beyond 1000km's and surrounded by foes
Add in it's demographic collapse, the Covid disaster unfolding plus regional and political unrest and they are and will stay in their box
Turkey and Russia are a convenient marriage made in historic Hell, the Turks will take delight in siding with the strong and regaining control of the Black Sea, which they are close to already

riosleftsock 9:50 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Pickle

What is the size of the nuclear arsenals of Russia vs USA?

The Russian nuclear plan would see Poland and most of the UK flattened first with hypersonic nuclear missiles.

To be honest even if they just detonated all of their nuclear weapons across Russia we'd all die anyway. It would just take a bit longer.

Hammer and Pickle 9:43 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Actually, it is perfectly clear the Kremlin knows full well it is the outright loser in a nuclear scenario. If it had anything to win by pressing the button, it would have done so long ago.

Crassus 9:43 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
KZ

In part true, in part not
Maybe to the acquisition cost of but not new spend

As I said yesterday, the cost of scrapping some of the literally thousands of mothballed early Abrams, that they will never use, exceeds the cost of donation

Same for older Bradleys and the MRAPS
The MRAP programme for example cost a ludicrous $50B and the vehicle is obsolete, now even being deployed domestically to police forces

So mate, an example of statistics damn lies and statistics

riosleftsock 9:42 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Jaan

You're right, but it was a sandpit argument about conventional forces.

Hammer and Pickle 9:40 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
10 billion per month?

Where did you get that number from?

Jaan Kenbrovin 9:39 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
‘One winner, and it would not be Russia’

Nonsense. It would turn nuclear and no-one would win.

riosleftsock 9:38 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Crassus

The original question was about NATO invading Russia. That's why I made the point, NATO invading Russia basically means the US invading Russia with some help from Europe.

The only reason this could happen would be to complete the Wolfowitz doctrine, and most assumptions are that Russia would just stand there and nobody else would get involved. If US/Nato invaded Russia, what do you think Turkey and China would do?

Kaiser Zoso 9:37 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
The US are funding $10 billion a month to Ukraine

Without that funding, there wouldn’t be a war.

Not difficult, is it?

Hammer and Pickle 9:36 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Yes, I meant the single-engined F-16.

riosleftsock 9:34 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Pickle

Maybe you're right. I use this site quite a bit, even though it can be a bit strange at times, they do provide some excellent information as well and their heart is in the right place. They had a piece up this morning showing what missiles came from where, and my re-collection was a mixture of air, sea and land launches, but the article isn't there now (this happens quite often), but they do have this

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/01/26/7386608/

Crassus 9:33 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
US at war in Russia
Well that is a leap of logic, but I'll address after saying that I said NATO

The combination of available, mutually trained troops and assets in the Western/Eastern European theatre would take Russia apart in Ukraine, or what they retain of it

If the USA went balls out consider that their logistical capability is unmatched historically, similarly their navy, also look at a map and note the 40 miles between Alaska and Russia, consider the unrest in Georgia etc

Then factor that Russia has always been aware that air power is not their thing, and is the American ace, hence their investment in anti air that for all the lauding, the S300/400's have not assumed dominance over a shit kicking Ukrainian Soviet air force and a few Turkish/homemade drones

One winner, and it would not be Russia

Hammer and Pickle 9:23 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
I used the word “most” because that is exactly what I meant.

Todays attacks were all air launched and they were all hitting civilian targets.

None of this is even open to debate in the real world.

Crassus 9:23 Thu Jan 26
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
And yes it is the F16 platform but Russian air force flights are essentially launching within Russia

Two reasons, they risk being shot down as they have, by Ukrainian defenses but more so by their own army, communication is not a strong point and inter service a damn near myth

The second reason, launch a missile from the ground and it travels less distance and slower, so more vulnerable, air launched and it has a head start and is quicker

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