Nutsin 7:52 Sat Jan 15
Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
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Lots of talk here that he is about to invade Ukraine.
NATO and the US won’t get involved but heavy sanctions have been threatened and Putin has threatened ending all diplomatic ties with the west.
Latest is that Putin will stage an attack making it look like Ukraine starts the conflict.
What’s being reported over there?
Is it about to kick off?
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riosleftsock
12:55 Sat Aug 20
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I often wondered how we ended up with a simp like Gavin Williamson in a position of political leadership.
Then I read this
"What's grown up about refusing to say that Russia shouldn't invade it's neighbours and should go home?"
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:38 Sat Aug 20
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goose
No goose, you really haven't
Stating that supplying arms to Ukraine is a more effective strategy against Russia than sanctions is in no way the same thing as opposing the Russian invasion.
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goose
12:36 Sat Aug 20
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Yeh I support the Russians by supporting military support to Ukraine.
Genius conclusion comma son.
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12:28 Sat Aug 20
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Goose, your position is abundantly clear insofar as you support Russia’s occupation of Eastern Ukraine and Crimea.
In addition I strongly believe that you think Ukrainian defence of its sovereign territory is an act of naked aggression against an innocent party.
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goose
12:27 Sat Aug 20
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I’ve typed it at least twice today.
I’m not sure how much clearer I could be.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:25 Sat Aug 20
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goose
You haven't made your standpoint clear. For 6 months you've been refusing to do so. Including right now.
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goose
12:16 Sat Aug 20
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Nope.
Petulant is demanding someone say something totally irrelevant after they’ve made their standpoint clear.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:04 Sat Aug 20
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goose
What's grown up about refusing to say that Russia shouldn't invade it's neighbours and should go home?
You're not being grown up, you're being a petulant child.
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goose
11:44 Fri Aug 19
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No because up I’m grown up.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
11:41 Fri Aug 19
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Still a no, then?
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goose
11:36 Fri Aug 19
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Terrible isn’t it Surf?
Military support is disgustingly pro Russian.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
11:28 Fri Aug 19
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Goose
Still can't bring yourself to say Russia should withdraw, I see.
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Crassus
11:18 Fri Aug 19
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Just brought them about earlier mate
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goose
10:52 Fri Aug 19
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Inflation was coming for both, but sanctions have made both worse.
You cannot remove a big chunk of energy supply from the market and not expect it to push up prices.
And then the price of energy and availability of fertiliser drives food prices.
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Crassus
10:42 Fri Aug 19
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Goose
I hear you but you are looking at symptoms not the cause, akin to Covid accelerating the massive change in retail purchase from shop to online/home delivery, it was coming but just came quicker
The global energy/food situation was always in retrospect heading to a cliff - because the very global system and who initiated and maintained it was slowly withdrawing from it - it's just coming home earlier than anticipated
Not least of course because of the very demographic influences that prevail in nearly all the main players
The winners in all this will be the USA, Mexico and India primarily
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goose
10:34 Fri Aug 19
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The conversation has got a bit mixed up with talk of China.
I’ve said it enough times on here, but (for me) the economic sanctions are causing huge second & third order consequences on global energy & food.
How far into this war are we? 6 months? I don’t see Russia slowing down or backing down because of those sanctions. I see global energy & food crisis being made worse by sanctions.
The other thing they’ve done is push countries like Russia & China closer together.
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Crassus
10:26 Fri Aug 19
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Pickle
Yes, in fact the property bubble reflects a third of their GDP I read this week, borne of a convergence of perfect circumstances, a one off opportunity which fueled their entire economic growth
Inherent corruption, questionable mortgage lending practices and systematic nepotism has resulted in a cliff edge of monumental proportion
The demographic implications confirm the outcome as unavoidable - China is fucked
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Crassus
10:20 Fri Aug 19
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goose
I beg to differ, sanctions have been a massive lever in deterring China and I'm minded that was the purpose, a demonstration of what would befall them if that bounced too far
Russia is a massive net exporter of food, products to produce food and energy
China is the diametric opposite, it is the world's largest importer of all three and reliant upon export
Sanctions would scuttle China as we know it within a year
And of Russia, militarily the West can only fight it by proxy, preferably on someone else's land far from the US, a direct conventional conflict would be over in days, so nukes come into play - a stagnated and slow self flagellation is/was and will remain the optimum solution
Not ideal for Ukraine, but as in WW2, to the victor the spoils - the USA
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Hammer and Pickle
10:15 Fri Aug 19
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Crassus
The Chinese economy is on the cusp of recession and their banking sector is riddled with property bad debt. They might be provoked into doing something silly in the South China Sea/Taiwan but somehow I don’t think that’s their way. They’ll prefer to keep Russia as their bitch and muddle through the hard times.
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Crassus
10:11 Fri Aug 19
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Barty
Demographics are at the route of all this sudden (not) drama becoming an issue, having heard about it's impact and read further it will undoubtedly bring an end to the globalization of commerce and social structure to which the post WW2 world has become accustom
We live in interesting times
And as a footnote, a desperate Putin this week announced a new medal and payment of 1m RUB to mothers who produce 10 (TEN) kids!
FFS, like that will solve the problem
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goose
10:04 Fri Aug 19
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“I read something the other day that said the US have run a conflict in the South China Sea & pacific sea through their simulators and have lost every time.'”
My god that stinks of pro-Russian doesn’t it??
Have a word with yourself Surface.
As you well know, I’ve not talked about the military goings on in Ukraine once.
In fact if you bothered to read the post & not the poster you’ll know all along I’ve said:
1. Economic sanctions aren’t working and are harming innocents.
2. Military support is working so carry on with that.
Again it stinks of pro-Russia doesn’t it??
Duh.
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