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Nutsin 7:52 Sat Jan 15
Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Lots of talk here that he is about to invade Ukraine.

NATO and the US won’t get involved but heavy sanctions have been threatened and Putin has threatened ending all diplomatic ties with the west.

Latest is that Putin will stage an attack making it look like Ukraine starts the conflict.

What’s being reported over there?

Is it about to kick off?

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threesixty 10:15 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Nutsin

"There is no substance to anything you say, you already admitted that."

Just so we are clear:

In your mind the independent article was not true.
And neither are any of the reports that came in at the same time.

In your view this didn't happen either:

According to diplomats, he plunged the Nato summit into chaos on Thursday by saying the US would “go it alone” if European states failed to boost their spending to at least 2% of GDP by January.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/12/trump-nato-threat-withdraw-what-would-happen

Neither has Trump advocated an America First policy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_(policy)

"America First refers to a policy stance in the United States that generally emphasizes nationalism and non-interventionism.[1] "

And the concept of NATO without the USA (whether a bluff or not, that's in Trumps head) would not be advantageous to Russia?

All of the above is the CONTEXT. And you are saying I provided no SUBSTANCE.

well... ok.. thanks for you playing!

Nutsin 9:32 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Pickle,

Don’t you get tired of embarrassing yourself all the time?

Nutsin 9:30 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Actually it’s $50 Billion, not $60.



https://www.heritage.org/defense/commentary/nato-allies-now-spend-50-billion-more-defense-2016

Hammer and Pickle 9:25 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
So, in your "mind" it works like this:

Trump says "stump up" and the various governments of NATO go to their legislatures and say "The US president has told us to increase defence spending". And of course the various parliaments just find the money down the back of the sofa. Innit right.

Nutsin 9:14 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
360

You already revealed your true colors moosh!

There is no substance to anything you say, you already admitted that.

Fact is after Trump demanded they pay their share and help rebuild a depleated NATO the spending increased, by approx $60 billion over the next couple of years…… That’s a fact!

Hammer and Pickle 8:33 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
er, not we

Hammer and Pickle 8:26 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
we, if I may, a US president without a clue about foreign policy who panders to his voter base of hillbillies, rednecks and Christian Taliban is the perfect Kremlin asset.

threesixty 8:09 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Nutsin

"Color me skeptical but Trump demanding that NATO members pay their fair share into funding NATO to offset the rising threat of Russia and China hardly appears to be the action of a man that is a secret Russian agent."

But that's not the context of what happened is it?

The context is Trump trying to move the USA from being the world police. Saying that he didn't want to get into other countries affairs (unless it made them money). That was the America First agenda.

In that light he looked at NATO and was asking how much value there was in this for the USA? And then he went further to suggest if the members didn't up their share he would be entitled to remove the USA from NATO.

Something that Russia would be very interested in happening.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-nato-south-korea-book-b1883457.html

This is why people were thinking he was some kind of Russian asset. Because it was inconceivable that a US president would ever contemplate something like that, even in private.

I'm not sure he was a Russian asset, but a useful idiot is probably more apt.

Nutsin 6:50 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Joyo,

Looks like everything just goes right over your head.

You are not worth the time!

Enjoy your day.

joyo 6:19 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Nuttysinboy 5.30
MAGA crowd are not a civil war threat,wouldnt last a day against the best army in world,so l don't see where your getting this USA on brink of civil war bollocks
Also what makes you think Putin is well on his way to victory?
Ukraine giving his woeful child raping army a few good slaps,West united against his vile war,and eventually weaning off his gas and oil,NATO stronger with two additional members on his border ....hes fucked up big time and hope he has really slow painful death

Hammer and Pickle 5:59 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Don't cry Lippy - just get some exercise and go on a diet son.

Nutsin 5:57 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Color me skeptical but Trump demanding that NATO members pay their fair share into funding NATO to offset the rising threat of Russia and China hardly appears to be the action of a man that is a secret Russian agent.


Cue Capitol Mong with another idiotic rant that will have no substance, just bluster and conjecture, like always.
Here’s a clue to all the fuckwits on here, don’t listen to the fake news networks and reports you read in the media and on the internet, just pay attention to what these political players say under oath.

Not difficult!

Kaiser Zoso 5:50 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Pickle say Brexit is a right cunt for him and that he hates living in Poland. Pickle also say ECB don’t need to increase interest rates about an hour before they make him look stupid.

Pickle doesn’t like others bringing up the bullshit he posts when on he's on krokodil

Hammer and Pickle 5:49 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
You are right that Obama’s Ukraine policy was an abject failure to honour the US’s guarantees of its sovereignty territorial integrity. Can’t really see how Trump can take credit for this given the way he went about relations with the EU and NATO though.

Are the pills working better today Ratched?

Cabbage Savage 5:38 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Pickle is korrekt.
it is juss coincidance that NATO members start spending more after Trump send leetters to Germany, Belgium and Norway to stop being skąpy and pay more monies on the fence

Nutsin 5:30 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Pickle

Didn’t Putin take Crimea under Obama?

Could have sworn Trump wasn’t even in politics when that happened.


Joyo,

Are u saying that the MAGA crowd are NOT a threat to the US then?

According to Joke Biden and every other Democrat and according to all the Dems at the Jan 6 committee and the FBI and all the liberal media outlets the far right MAGA crowd are the biggest threat to the US.


To be honest, I agree with you….. The left wing bullshit about the MAGA crowd is just that more bullshit….. Glad I got you to admit what the rest of us knew all along.

Perhaps now you’ll begin to see who the real liars are.

Remember that next time you post.

Hammer and Pickle 5:08 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
“Trump got the NATO nations to pony up their fair share,”

What absolute simplistic twaddle! If NATO members have increased their defence spending, it is a response to the instability created by the US becoming an obvious Kremlin satellite with Trump in the White House and certainly not because he tweeted something inane about their “fair share”.

Your world view is that of a reactionary amoeba

joyo 4:54 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Only a simpleton thinks the USA is going to have a civil war and Putin is well on his way to victory
I personally think the Republicans will piss the election in 2024 so long as Trump doesn't stand
Putin is losing the war and is toast,might take a year or two but Russia is fucked

Nutsin 4:53 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Pickle,

Trump got the NATO nations to pony up their fair share, giving the NATO budget a huge boost, something you are too stupid to be thankful for.

He also offered an alternative to Europes dependency on Russian gas that you again showed you were too stupid to be thankful for.


Why don’t you just admit, you don’t have a fucking clue.

Nutsin 4:49 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Joyo is a simpleton,

Oh and it’s “Ukraine” not “the Ukraine”

Hammer and Pickle 4:47 Wed Aug 10
Re: Is Putin about to make a big mistake?
Another reason I did not defend Merkel’s Nord Stream policy was that the political price of doing business with the Kremlin was too high. Exactly why I saw Trump as the ultimate Putin crony when it came to his ham-fosted alienation of the US’s NATO allies.

So less of the bullshit and less of the bluster, twit.

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