WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
23%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
24%
  
d. Moyes out
33%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
4%
  



Keep dreaming 6:18 Sun Sep 18
Moyes Out
Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore.
I'm fed up, we can do much better

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daveyg 12:51 Wed Nov 29
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Newcastle, watched them tonight and wished how (pun intended) we could be more like them. But they have that progressive coach who is not afraid to play attacking football,use youth and have his entire team/squad on the same page. We have old players who have not been any good for nearly 2 years,no youth,no effective rotation and no players progressing. We have a few players that believe 8n his system but they wouldn't be playing under a manager like Howe. Time to move on as Moyes won't take us any further.

RM10 12:26 Wed Nov 29
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Or the next manager

Willtell 6:40 Tue Nov 28
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Fair enough swindon. I said it with a smile on my face anyway.

The point is though that we can and should dream of CL football and doing a Leicester (not their implosion). I still do but I am certain it isn’t going to happen under Moyes…

Side of Ham 5:58 Tue Nov 28
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Glenn Hoddle & Swindon Town…...

swindon hammer 2:10 Tue Nov 28
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Willtell,

Anything football related From the 70s/80s/90s I can reel off by memory for most clubs.

I was obsessed by football when I was younger and would watch and read anything. With age I am losing a lot of things but my memory isn’t one of them!

My point stands though.

Even taking Moyes out of the equation we are never going to constantly finish in the top 5 and regularly qualify for the champions league unless we get near unlimited funds like a Chelsea or Man City have done.

No other club has done that without those unlimited funds or as Miike implied an unfair advantage.

It’s possible on occasion but not consistently.

Eerie Descent 1:53 Tue Nov 28
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Swindon Hymie

Manuel 1:40 Tue Nov 28
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Willtell - Very fair point that, the fella's an absolute authority on them.

Takashi Miike 1:39 Tue Nov 28
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"I wonder how Chelsea & Man City did that?!!"


clearly by ignoring/raping the FFP rules. the west london cunts are now lining up the napoli forward for £120m

Willtell 1:38 Tue Nov 28
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Did you look all that up swindon? Only I’m a bit worried as to how well you know Spurs?

swindon hammer 1:28 Tue Nov 28
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They didn’t play in the CL before Levy because they didn’t have 4 spaces for English teams available back then.

They would have qualified 4 or 5 times back in the 80s if that rule was in place then.

As for the 90s yes they were a bit of a joke at times but they still won 2 cups in that decade.

Expectations were huge under Venables when they broke the British transfer record to sign Gazza and later Gary Lineker and they were huge again when they brought in Klinsmann and Dumitrescu to play alongside Barmby, Anderton & Sheringham.

Even backtracking let’s not forget how big the signings of Ardiles & Villa were in the late 70s.

All those periods and signings were with the expectation that they would compete with the best.

The expectation has always been huge and their fans have expected them to compete at the top.

As you said they have always been a big glamour club and that is a big advantage to them in attracting managers and players. We aren’t at that level as a name or brand.

The only clubs that have been able to break into that “Big Glamour club” category (Spurs, Man Utd, Liverpool & Arsenal) over the past 20 years and regularly qualify for the CL are Chelsea and Man City.

I wonder how Chelsea & Man City did that?!!

Russ of the BML 1:23 Tue Nov 28
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Yes - Spurs are cunts.

Something we agree on.

BRANDED 1:15 Tue Nov 28
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We are the second winners of the European Conference Cup. All the future winners of it will celebrate like Mourinho, Moyes and the the fans when they win it. Spurs are just cunts and always will be.

Russ of the BML 12:47 Tue Nov 28
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swindon hammer 12:27 Tue Nov 28

Spurs average league position under Levy is 5th. The highest being 2nd and the lowest being 8th. In the 25 years before Levy there average league position was 10th with the highest 4th and lowest 15th (on three occasions).

Before Levy they only ever played in UEFA cup. Under Levy they are regularly in CL (although I concede its easier to get into than traditional European Cup.

Yes, Spurs have always been a big, glamour club (although through the 90's they were a bit of a joke at times and we regularly beat them). And I know they've always been financially backed.

But to say expectations haven't been raised under Levy is ridiculous. Its plain and obvious they have. My Spurs mates will support that too. Yes, it may be expectation to the point of sometimes being deluded, but its expectation none the less.

And that is where we need to be aiming for. Average league position of 5th and qualifying for CL regularly. And, as a club, we have the foundation to do that. It's just that we have a board that settles for mediocre and a manager that settles for mediocre. And both board and manager think we should be grateful.

Russ of the BML 12:46 Tue Nov 28
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swindon hammer 12:27 Tue Nov 28

Spurs average league position under Levy is 5th. The highest being 2nd and the lowest being 8th. In the 25 years before Levy there average league position was 10th with the highest 4th and lowest 15th (on three occasions).

Before Levy they only ever played in UEFA cup. Under Levy they are regularly in CL (although I concede its easier to get into than traditional European Cup.

Yes, Spurs have always been a big, glamour club (although through the 90's they were a bit of a joke at times and we regularly beat them). And I know they've always been financially backed.

But to say expectations haven't been raised under Levy is ridiculous. Its plain and obvious they have. My Spurs mates will support that too. Yes, it may be expectation to the point of sometimes being deluded, but its expectation none the less.

And that is where we need to be aiming for. Average league position of 5th and qualifying for CL regularly. And, as a club, we have the foundation to do that. It's just that we have a board that settles for mediocre and a manager that settles for mediocre. And both board and manager think we should be grateful.

Eerie Descent 12:41 Tue Nov 28
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Obviously like all of us, I loved our Cup win, but let's not kid ourselves about what that competition is. Spurs fucking forfeited a game so they didn't have to play in it, and that's a club absolutely desperate for a trophy.

Come On You Irons 12:32 Tue Nov 28
Re: Moyes Out
This thread is still rumbling along. 10,000 posts and counting now discussing a manager to led us to 6th and 7th in his first two full seasons, our first major trophy for 43 years in his third full season and who has won more games than lost in the league so far this season while we sit comfortably in the top 10.

Moyes is NOT GOING ANYWHERE until next Summer unless we lose multiple games in a row in the league (which we never do under him) and get sucked into a relegation battle (not going to happen). So why waste all your time and energy going around in circles discussing the situation.

Mods, this thread needs locking

BillyJenningsBoots 12:31 Tue Nov 28
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What eerie said!

swindon hammer 12:27 Tue Nov 28
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Agreed with most of what you said about Moyes though.

Just felt the Tottenham comparison was a bit off.

swindon hammer 12:18 Tue Nov 28
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Russ.

You say expectations under Levy for Tottenham have risen and he always given it a go and they are annually challenging for the top 6.

Well expectations have always been there for Tottenham and financially they have always given it a go over the past 40 years. Nearly all their managers have been backed financially even before Levy was there.

Tottenham have always been considered one of the big clubs in England and always had high expectations which is why it was always funny for fans such as ours when they would fail to reach those heights. Nothing has changed under Levy in that respect.

RM10 12:09 Tue Nov 28
Re: Moyes Out
How do you know what Tim wants?who do you want?again so many words saying the same thing, have a break.

Sir Alf 12:01 Tue Nov 28
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“Moyes dies “ !!!

Not a Freudian slip should read “Moyes does” :-)

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