Keep dreaming 6:18 Sun Sep 18
Moyes Out
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Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore.
I'm fed up, we can do much better
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Sir Alf
2:46 Mon Jan 30
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*** , it will be as much, if not more, be towards the manager this time around. ***
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Sir Alf
2:45 Mon Jan 30
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In the past 13 years most of our frustration and ire has been directed quite rightly at Sullivan. And while he is ultimately responsible if we get relegated ( should of sacked him) , it will be as much, if not more, this time around.
It seems, from insiders, Moyes is a closed book and poor communicator. Aloof and employs a closed door policy, does not entertain suggestions and new ideas. Sounds like he has become increasingly defensive and insecure since the United, Sunderland and Real Sociedad failures.
The 2 years of success with us, perhaps in part down to no crowds in COVID times ? , were a brief exception. His approach and methods have been successful with clubs with budget limitations and using players who were not the elite but more journeymen or honest, hard working pros.
He has failed anytime he has to work with more technically elite players or had to build a team with a decent budget available. He had money at United but was reluctant to spend it and seems to feel comfortable buying older, experienced players.
He’s not BFS level frustration but he was sucked all hope from many of us as we know it’s just going to be the same old attrition based football from a bygone age. Very few goals and narrow defeats are the order of the day for “Team Moyes”
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Far Cough
1:35 Mon Jan 30
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That was a different Moyes, this one's a cunt
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Lee Trundle
1:35 Mon Jan 30
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The same Rooney who said Moyes held him back?
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joyo
1:32 Mon Jan 30
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Didn't Moyes give Rooney his debut at 16 with Everton?
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Lee Trundle
1:24 Mon Jan 30
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He'll never turn out for England, boleyn8420.
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boleyn8420
1:22 Mon Jan 30
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Moyes aversion to youth can be best seen with Ashby. You just know that under Howe's coaching Ashby will turn into Newcastle' regular full back and the probably England's. Under Moyes, its just so depressing. A 4th round which has not had an upset, we play last with safety first Moyes as manager. I fear a normal West Ham cup upset with a 1-0 defeat, hopefully it will be so embarrassing (no I dont WANT us to lose I never do) if we do lose it may make the board sack the jock twat. That would be a small crumb of comfort at least.
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Willtell
1:14 Mon Jan 30
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I think Derby were relegated due to a 15 point penalty for overspending iirc?
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Sir Alf
12:58 Mon Jan 30
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Most of the top divisions probably overlap a bit with arguably the exception of the Premiership some years ( although recent seasons teams coming up from the Championship have started to do better). But Derby could perhaps compete and survive in the Championship?
The real issue is momentum. 18 games unbeaten makes a team feel they can beat anyone. Conversely West Ham scrape a win after 7 games ( FA Cup aside ) and in steep decline.
Moyes will set up as always. Don’t concede ( even tho we usually do)
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Nick QQQ
12:40 Mon Jan 30
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oh yeah.. ok same point different league
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Lee Trundle
12:28 Mon Jan 30
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They're a League One team, 3Qs.
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Willtell
12:27 Mon Jan 30
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Actually Derby are old 3rd division or whatever they call it now league one is it?
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Nick QQQ
12:03 Mon Jan 30
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be interested to hear the narrative after we get well beaten tonight by a championship team.
Same tired line up other than a swap with the GK.
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pdbis
11:52 Mon Jan 30
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*There
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pdbis
11:51 Mon Jan 30
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Their isn't the fight in this squad to stay up.
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Stevethehammer
8:27 Mon Jan 30
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They should have sacked Moyes after the Leicester defeat.
We were onto nothing with him then and we are certainly onto nothing with him now.
The europa Conference league will be binned off and Moyes will put all efforts into staying up by hook or by crook.
We go back to being the serial underachievers we always fucking have been.
If Moyes don't go this season and we stay up, guaranteed he takes us down next, because he will still think his methods work and won't be told otherwise. JOCK CUNTTTTT
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marty feldman
6:26 Mon Jan 30
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The players hated curbishley during the tevez great escape season at least according to Hayden Mullins and Anton Ferdinand. And the players now have to do the same no matter how much they despise Moyes . It's an absolute clusterfuck caused by one man's greed and his refusal to sack an outdated out of touch dinasour from drumchapel .
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Sir Alf
10:42 Sun Jan 29
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Unfortunately we just have to let things play out with Moyes.
Nothing points to improvements so it will be the same results which will be narrow defeats which has been perfect for his post game excuses “ we’re showing signs of improvement” , “marginals going against us”, “felt we were comfortable but didn’t take our chances” etc
Moyes and Nevin are done, finished and have been out of ideas to arrest the slide for months. The recruitment was disjointed and not addressing the severe lack of pace that undermines everything.
The “Death March” to relegation continues.
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OneAll
9:30 Sun Jan 29
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conceding possession wouldnt be a issue if we actually had pacey players on the break , we were literally the deadlisest team on the counter two years ago, fk knows what happened
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Side of Ham
5:38 Sun Jan 29
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Well when these pundits & media cunt us off for wanting better they can take a look at our possession stats before telling us we should be grateful.
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zico
5:19 Sun Jan 29
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I don't think 'possession of the ball' is necessarily the key to the modern game, it's what you do with it that counts.
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