Premier league - worlds best league.

[twoleftfeet]

Is it?

5-2
5-2
3-0
1-1
1-1

impressive set of results over 2 evenings.

whoops forgot the 1-0 Liverpool result. 

[John Drake]

But the Bundesliga has higher average attendances than the Premier League. 

[the coming of gary]

The PL is the best in terms of its competitiveness. But there its superiority ends.

Isn't that exactly the reason it's the best because it has strength through out. Not just a few good teams.. It's easily the best 

Even 28th placed Derby County are in the top 50 attendances in Europe

Other countries cant match that

[fraser]

The PL is the best in terms of its competitiveness. But there its superiority ends.

Isn't that exactly the reason it's the best because it has strength through out. Not just a few good teams.. It's easily the best 

[,]

The PL is the best in terms of its competitiveness. But there its superiority ends.

[Westside]

Is it?

5-2
5-2
3-0
1-1
1-1

impressive set of results over 2 evenings.

whoops forgot the 1-0 Liverpool result. 

 

 

How many other leagues have 6 teams in the Champions  League?

[XKhammer]

I actually want Arse to get to semis in this as same week we play them and hopefully won league as well...purely just to help us so they put out a second team 

[fraser]

It's not as entertaining but then again it wasn't as entertaining before that really entertaining spell. Like everything it has cycles I suppose and maybe it will be again soon. 

[BRANDED]

Love to see Chelsea, Spurs and Man City get thrashed. Good to see any of them lose. 

[Massive Attack]

It's also the fact that the era wasn't as over coached as it now is to the point some desperate Teams now employ Throw-In and Set-piece coaches to orchestrate and choreograph every fucking movement on a football pitch. Gone are the days when you could just sit back and enjoy plenty of off-the-cuff outstanding individualistic goals and that was in just 1 month like this such was the regularity of it!





I think Arsenal will just release a top 20 of the best Set-piece goals of the season to celebrate their season should they win the League after boring everyone to death in doing so.

[Manuel]

Agree that it's not as entertaining as it was 10-20 years ago, VAR, set pieces time-wasting etc, but still have some cracking games. I watched a little Championship football of late, now that's boring!

[Massive Attack]

Definitely nowhere near as good as it once was from around 1995-2005. It had it all back then and without the interference of VAR to cսnt it all up either. The entertainment, quality of Football and drama levels were off the charts compared to the often boring sanitised shit it's turned in to now by comparison. Sure rare moments of quality can still happen but compared to that era it doesn't come close as the complete package throughout the whole season.
*checks earpiece to see if I need to review my answer before losing the will to live* 🖥 

[John Drake]

Still the best league to watch 

 

 

No idea what league is the ‘best’ or what the criteria is, but I do find that Premier League games are mostly snoozefests these days. Too slow paced, technical and bogged down with tactics and shape. Individual flair having been replaced by organisation and athleticism. You do get the occasional good game, but too many are spoiled by play acting, general shithousery and a reliance on set pieces. 

It feels similar to the path that the once dominant Serie A took in the 1990s.

[Manuel]

No English club is in a 2 horse race every season, is state sponsored or seems to have la Liga refs in their pocket or at least too scared to be too harsh on them, then the media in Spain, any rag or outlets that's overly critical of them, gets locked out or stopped from attending pre/post-match interviews etc

Sure, you can't deny their Trophy cabinet and honors list and the players they recruit due to the vast wealth and tax breaks they receive in Spain and their record in Europe is second to none, but when you only really have to worry about Barca domestically gives you plenty of time to concentrate on the CL.

So yeah, a big club, maybe the biggest but all built on a big advantage over everyone else, people talk about Man City buying and dominating the PL, but RM are next level.............and a bunch of entitled cunts.

So im never delighted to see them do well.

Well I obviously meant I was delighted to see the likes of Chelsea and City lose as opposed to RM winning. I know you have a thing about RM (previous threads you have started on them) and can't disagree with much of what you have said, I don't care for them either, but I suppose my point is the likes of City and Chelsea only become somebody's in recent years on the arrival of wealthy new owners i.e the Russian and the Arabs, respectively. Nobody can accuse RM of being plastic.

RM were infamously 'Franco's team' and remain the darlings of the establishment, the rich and out of towners. Working class Madrilenos prefer Atletico or Rayo

So what, I don't give a fuck about WHO wisdom, they are still on a different level as a football institution than City or Chelsea, which is my point.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Delighted to see this weeks results. No English club will ever be as big as the mighty Real Madrid. Eat that up City/Pep.

No English club is in a 2 horse race every season, is state sponsored or seems to have la Liga refs in their pocket or at least too scared to be too harsh on them, then the media in Spain, any rag or outlets that's overly critical of them, gets locked out or stopped from attending pre/post-match interviews etc

Sure, you can't deny their Trophy cabinet and honors list and the players they recruit due to the vast wealth and tax breaks they receive in Spain and their record in Europe is second to none, but when you only really have to worry about Barca domestically gives you plenty of time to concentrate on the CL.

So yeah, a big club, maybe the biggest but all built on a big advantage over everyone else, people talk about Man City buying and dominating the PL, but RM are next level.............and a bunch of entitled cunts.

So im never delighted to see them do well.

Well I obviously meant I was delighted to see the likes of Chelsea and City lose as opposed to RM winning. I know you have a thing about RM (previous threads you have started on them) and can't disagree with much of what you have said, I don't care for them either, but I suppose my point is the likes of City and Chelsea only become somebody's in recent years on the arrival of wealthy new owners i.e the Russian and the Arabs, respectively. Nobody can accuse RM of being plastic.

RM were infamously 'Franco's team' and remain the darlings of the establishment, the rich and out of towners. Working class Madrilenos prefer Atletico or Rayo

[Manuel]

Delighted to see this weeks results. No English club will ever be as big as the mighty Real Madrid. Eat that up City/Pep.

No English club is in a 2 horse race every season, is state sponsored or seems to have la Liga refs in their pocket or at least too scared to be too harsh on them, then the media in Spain, any rag or outlets that's overly critical of them, gets locked out or stopped from attending pre/post-match interviews etc

Sure, you can't deny their Trophy cabinet and honors list and the players they recruit due to the vast wealth and tax breaks they receive in Spain and their record in Europe is second to none, but when you only really have to worry about Barca domestically gives you plenty of time to concentrate on the CL.

So yeah, a big club, maybe the biggest but all built on a big advantage over everyone else, people talk about Man City buying and dominating the PL, but RM are next level.............and a bunch of entitled cunts.

So im never delighted to see them do well.

Well I obviously meant I was delighted to see the likes of Chelsea and City lose as opposed to RM winning. I know you have a thing about RM (previous threads you have started on them) and can't disagree with much of what you have said, I don't care for them either, but I suppose my point is the likes of City and Chelsea only become somebody's in recent years on the arrival of wealthy new owners i.e the Russian and the Arabs, respectively. Nobody can accuse RM of being plastic.

[Sydney_Iron]

Delighted to see this weeks results. No English club will ever be as big as the mighty Real Madrid. Eat that up City/Pep.

No English club is in a 2 horse race every season, is state sponsored or seems to have la Liga refs in their pocket or at least too scared to be too harsh on them, then the media in Spain, any rag or outlets that's overly critical of them, gets locked out or stopped from attending pre/post-match interviews etc

Sure, you can't deny their Trophy cabinet and honors list and the players they recruit due to the vast wealth and tax breaks they receive in Spain and their record in Europe is second to none, but when you only really have to worry about Barca domestically gives you plenty of time to concentrate on the CL.

So yeah, a big club, maybe the biggest but all built on a big advantage over everyone else, people talk about Man City buying and dominating the PL, but RM are next level.............and a bunch of entitled cunts.

So im never delighted to see them do well.

[Gank]

So what? This is a cup competition on weird terms. If you're comparing leagues, take the fancy Dan teams out of the equation and look at your run if the mill teams. Who is the bigger and better team, Newcastle or St. Pauli? Villa or Amiens? Manchester United or Vallodolid? None of them in this competition, all of them in the top division of their league.

DISCLAIMER:

some of those might not actually be in their top division, they're just teams from Germany, France and Spain that I thought of who weren't in the Champions League. But if I got any wrong, that actually reinforces my point.

So what? WTF are you on about Gank son? i didn't disagree with your reasoning for the PL to be the best, despite this set of results, if anything i agree!

Every team even ones packed with superstars and in leagues they win nearly every season have off days and lose/draw the odd game, so really nothing to see with this set of results.

 

 

Perhaps I misunderstood your post. I took it to be in support of the thread opening post, that somehow the results of English teams this week mean that the English team is somehow inferior to other European leagues. Apologies if I jumped to an incorrect conclusion.

[Manuel]

Delighted to see this weeks results. No English club will ever be as big as the mighty Real Madrid. Eat that up City/Pep.

[Sydney_Iron]

So what? This is a cup competition on weird terms. If you're comparing leagues, take the fancy Dan teams out of the equation and look at your run if the mill teams. Who is the bigger and better team, Newcastle or St. Pauli? Villa or Amiens? Manchester United or Vallodolid? None of them in this competition, all of them in the top division of their league.

DISCLAIMER:

some of those might not actually be in their top division, they're just teams from Germany, France and Spain that I thought of who weren't in the Champions League. But if I got any wrong, that actually reinforces my point.

So what? WTF are you on about Gank son? i didn't disagree with your reasoning for the PL to be the best, despite this set of results, if anything i agree!

Every team even ones packed with superstars and in leagues they win nearly every season have off days and lose/draw the odd game, so really nothing to see with this set of results.

[Gank]

Only Arsenal and Liverpool will go into the second legs as favourites to advance, 6 games and no win for a PL club


 

So what? This is a cup competition on weird terms. If you're comparing leagues, take the fancy Dan teams out of the equation and look at your run if the mill teams. Who is the bigger and better team, Newcastle or St. Pauli? Villa or Amiens? Manchester United or Vallodolid? None of them in this competition, all of them in the top division of their league.

DISCLAIMER:

some of those might not actually be in their top division, they're just teams from Germany, France and Spain that I thought of who weren't in the Champions League. But if I got any wrong, that actually reinforces my point.

[Sydney_Iron]

Only Arsenal and Liverpool will go into the second legs as favourites to advance, 6 games and no win for a PL club

 

[Gank]

That's not a comparison of leagues though, is it? The 10th best team in England beats the 10th best team in any other league on the planet. And the 9th, and the 11th, and the 8th, and the 12th and so on.

The very best team in any league and the very worst team in any league isn't a true reflection of the entire division, let alone league. Take the top 50 English teams and that easily beats any other top 50 taking out the very top and the very bottom of each.

[happygilmore]

Still the best league to watch 

[RBshorty]

It’s all about the Money Honey. The product is secondary.