The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Headline in Guardian online

Britain will ‘never surrender flag’ to far-right protesters, Starmer says.

I gave up counting the use of the term far right about half way through, The whole article seems to have been written by Antifa public relations.

The coverage is similar in the DT and the Mail.

Makes you think, eh!

[XKhammer]

Quite a few of my friends went on the march yesterday and l support it in principle but didn't go for 3 reasons 
1) West Ham playing spuds and l fancied pie and mash plus few pints before game
2)l don't like Tommy Robinson or support him in politics,but he did do good exposing the grooming gangs
3)Really would get the hump if l did go and ended up next to a moron like Icke,ThickClit or Oxbore spouting conspiracy theorist insane bollocks

First time i missed a west ham and spurs game.

what don't you like about TR or his politics?

what conspiracy theories

 

 

I'm a Reform/Farage supporter and TR breaks the law and a convicted criminal plus he thinks he's above the law civil and criminal 
Also he's a thug and his image doesn't help 

[Leavemyarcelona]

Starmer has not criticised the march instead he has criticised the violence that ensued. And note how the Musk criticises our government for curbing free speech at an event where he was freely allowed to speak live from his American bunker.

The violence that ensued seems to have only been witnessed by the Metropolitan Police.

Odd.

Plod marched us right next to the far left fascists, and when you get them shouting their usual tripe "racists" "fascists" etc what man is gonna sit back and take it.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

Starmer has not criticised the march instead he has criticised the violence that ensued. And note how the Musk criticises our government for curbing free speech at an event where he was freely allowed to speak live from his American bunker.

The violence that ensued seems to have only been witnessed by the Metropolitan Police.

Odd.

[Leavemyarcelona]

Load of West Ham on the march

[Leavemyarcelona]

Quite a few of my friends went on the march yesterday and l support it in principle but didn't go for 3 reasons 
1) West Ham playing spuds and l fancied pie and mash plus few pints before game
2)l don't like Tommy Robinson or support him in politics,but he did do good exposing the grooming gangs
3)Really would get the hump if l did go and ended up next to a moron like Icke,ThickClit or Oxbore spouting conspiracy theorist insane bollocks

First time i missed a west ham and spurs game.

what don't you like about TR or his politics?

what conspiracy theories

[Leavemyarcelona]

Starmer and his ilk just never learn

[XKhammer]

Quite a few of my friends went on the march yesterday and l support it in principle but didn't go for 3 reasons 
1) West Ham playing spuds and l fancied pie and mash plus few pints before game
2)l don't like Tommy Robinson or support him in politics,but he did do good exposing the grooming gangs
3)Really would get the hump if l did go and ended up next to a moron like Icke,ThickClit or Oxbore spouting conspiracy theorist insane bollocks

[Mike Oxsaw]

Headline in Guardian online

Britain will ‘never surrender flag’ to far-right protesters, Starmer says.

I gave up counting the use of the term far right about half way through, The whole article seems to have been written by Antifa public relations.

Britian (the state) surrendered the flag decades ago. Only themselves to blame.

[F 129 Row66]

Headline in Guardian online

Britain will ‘never surrender flag’ to far-right protesters, Starmer says.

I gave up counting the use of the term far right about half way through, The whole article seems to have been written by Antifa public relations.

[Ceasar]

Muhammad was a peodophile and he is the prophet of Islam and muslims

Why is Islam not banned in the Western world?

[Mike Oxsaw]

I guess the next step is simultaneous similar marches in the 10 biggest towns & cities of the UK to allow all those who couldn't get down to London a chance to show their own depth of feelings.

[only1billybonds]

Comma.

You said I was trying to find equivalence between the deaths of Floyd and Kirk. I did no such thing, I was talking about the REACTION to the respective killings.

Sven, you're starting to sound like Kirk had it coming, like he deserved to get his throat torn out because some found his views unacceptable. Care to confirm where you actually stand in this?

I keep hearing that Starmer is a seriously clever bloke. Well every time he mentions the ( imaginary) far right he makes himself look just a little more bit more stupid. Hopefully, he has loads more embarrsment to come when more of the content of Mandlesons correspondence with Epstein are revealed.

[Nutsin]

Looks like Tommy’s little gathering was anything but little. Looks like there were plenty of disgruntled people who felt it necessary to make the effort. Just think how many there are who couldn’t or didn’t make it.


All this talk by those on the left that everything is fine and it’s just racists being racist looks to be way off point.

The next election, whenever it happens is gonna be a landslide.
Not gonna be easy to get them all deported, Gonna be dirty work. Can’t see anything but absolute chaos on the horizon to be honest.

saying that we are gonna see chaos if we do or we don’t. One things for sure things can’t be allowed to continue in their current state.

Starmer should be banished from the UK once his Gov’t falls.

 

[twoleftfeet]

Starmer has not criticised the march instead he has criticised the violence that ensued. And note how the Musk criticises our government for curbing free speech at an event where he was freely allowed to speak live from his American bunker.

He didn’t criticise the Notting Hill carnival though

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

Jaan
All of Kirk’s views & outpourings have been reported via his podcasts/tiktok/public events etc
Are you saying he has been misrepresented in his views on gays, the role of women, blacks, the intelligence of blacks , the importance of gun ownership & the insignificance of deaths caused etc etc
Appears a bit ironic that he has been killed by a gun loving son of Trump fanatics for not being extreme enough. Despite the killer having a trans ‘room mate’. 

 

 

 

Yes he was clearly misrepresented by a left wing echo chamber in an effort to destroy his character and growing reputation, which ultimately lead to his assassination that many on the left have since celebrated.

You've gone from 'no-one deserves to die for their beliefs' to endless posts focusing on his character as if he did deserve it, and repeatedly claimed the far right  were responsible when all reports suggest the murderer was radicalised in left wing ideology, was part of Antifa discord groups and had a trans gender partner. 

Have a day off.

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Starmer has not criticised the march instead he has criticised the violence that ensued. And note how the Musk criticises our government for curbing free speech at an event where he was freely allowed to speak live from his American bunker.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Starmer criticising yesterdays march.

less arrests than at the Notting Hill Carnival, will he condemn that? 

MSM are doing the same - can't report on the 100,000 strong attendance without referring to the 25 ( 0.025% of the crowd if my maths still works) arrests and violence against the police.

What were the arrests at football yesterday? Anybody know? MSM reporting that too?

[twoleftfeet]

Starmer criticising yesterdays march.

less arrests than at the Notting Hill Carnival, will he condemn that? 

[Come On You Irons]

I see the fake, plastic Aussie Sven is making even more of a fool of himself than usual on here. What a tool.

[Mad Dog]

I'm sick of hearing people throw around Hitler and nazi as throw away insults.  Grow up you tit, its saying things like this that is causing extremism on both sides.  If you think kirk or anyone on this forum is an actual nazi you're deluded

also any actual proof the shooter was far right just because people related to him were republican?  Reports i saw said he was in a relationship with a trans which leads me to think he would have rejected his family background.  

Also well played to the family for helping being him to justice 

[Mike Oxsaw]

I’m not keen on Nazi supporters. Intolerant & narrow minded? So be it
Though of course if that’s your bag knock yourself out

If you do support Adolf & his crowd at least own it
Kirk’s problem is that he ran into an even more extreme right wing nutter
Unlucky for him for being so half hearted

I rest my case.

Your thoughts don't align 100% with mine (MINE!!!) then you're a Nazi. That - and only that - is the message you're giving out.

[Fauxstralian]

I’m not keen on Nazi supporters. Intolerant & narrow minded? So be it
Though of course if that’s your bag knock yourself out

If you do support Adolf & his crowd at least own it
Kirk’s problem is that he ran into an even more extreme right wing nutter
Unlucky for him for being so half hearted

[Mike Oxsaw]

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions as long as they don’t impose them on others 

Some of Kirk’s opinions:
Abortion (even for 10yo rape victims) is worse than the holocaust 
Jewish money has ruined American culture
Joseph Goebbels was a gifted marketer & the loving father of 6 children 

Am getting a vibe here

Yeah. The vibe is that you're an intolerant, narrow-minded, easily led bigot.

Have I missed anything?

[Fauxstralian]

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions as long as they don’t impose them on others 

Some of Kirk’s opinions:
Abortion (even for 10yo rape victims) is worse than the holocaust 
Jewish money has ruined American culture
Joseph Goebbels was a gifted marketer & the loving father of 6 children 

Am getting a vibe here