The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Legal action. We're well past that. Time they staged a coup and put the state on trial.
They'll have to join a very long orderly cue for that, what with all the Labour backbenchers scrapping amongst each other to get to the front of it currently.
Is it wrong that the idea of the labour backbenches having a tear up immediately made me think ...
Lol you and thinking don't go together ThickClit
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Legal action. We're well past that. Time they staged a coup and put the state on trial.
They'll have to join a very long orderly cue for that, what with all the Labour backbenchers scrapping amongst each other to get to the front of it currently.
Is it wrong that the idea of the labour backbenches having a tear up immediately made me think ...
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Legal action. We're well past that. Time they staged a coup and put the state on trial.
They'll have to join a very long orderly cue for that, what with all the Labour backbenchers scrapping amongst each other to get to the front of it currently.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
As a prelude to what will be a very unpalatable Labour budget all round, we have a co-ordinated character assignation of Farage, clearly orchestrated to divert the newshounds away from governmental bad news.
Oh, wait! I'm only a voter. Too stupid to see things like that for what they are..
It's just so desperate. I wonder where they dug these clowns up from, why it took 50 years to make the allegations and which hole kweer promised them a go on for the favour.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 19 Nov 2025, 14:50
by Mike Oxsaw
So.
As a prelude to what will be a very unpalatable Labour budget all round, we have a co-ordinated character assignation of Farage, clearly orchestrated to divert the newshounds away from governmental bad news.
Oh, wait! I'm only a voter. Too stupid to see things like that for what they are..
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Your very lucky l ain't a grass unlike you when worked TV detector vans..ironically lol
You fall for it every time. You NEED to fall for it every time. You're clearly MY bitch.
Any chance of you showing respect for your fellow posters and moving this grudge onto PM instead of spamming up every thread?
"Enter at own risk"...did you read that on thread title?
Plus I'm making fair point about digital ID cards which I'm all for and clearly you're not which l understand would financially affect you
Sorry if this triggers and upsets you....actually I'm not Sorry at all its hilarious
What "risk" do you perceive I'm at from posting on this thread? That you will post more unfounded and unproven/un-provable shit on me? I can live with that, bitch.
So. ID cards, digital or otherwise, I've had to hold, by law, with no issue, since I first started working/living abroad as an expat are a problem for me? Only in YOUR head.
ID card in the UK? No issue for me, don't need one as the Government have all the information they need and I'm no longer working....hold that thought.
Following your apoplectic tirades I had a look at my details and realised that I'd not supplied my Dutch So-Fi number to the pensions people.
Done that now and as a result my pension will go up even more. Ching! Ching! & thanks! Buy you a beer next time you see me in The Bull.
Still not prepared to take this out of the public domain and onto PM on here, I notice. Now. Why could that be?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
And we can all see that you have absolutely zero knowledge and experience of living and working abroad.
Incidentally, all UK pensioners are specifically excluded from being required to hold a Karmercard, so how would that impact me?
Your very lucky l ain't a grass unlike you when worked TV detector vans..ironically lol
You fall for it every time. You NEED to fall for it every time. You're clearly MY bitch.
Any chance of you showing respect for your fellow posters and moving this grudge onto PM instead of spamming up every thread?
"Enter at own risk"...did you read that on thread title?
Plus I'm making fair point about digital ID cards which I'm all for and clearly you're not which l understand would financially affect you
Sorry if this triggers and upsets you....actually I'm not Sorry at all its hilarious
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
If they have a legitimate job offer and are sponsored by the employer, no problem, but there's already an immigration channel/path set up for such cases.
Additionally, there's probably a legal requirement for councils to address homelessness and these illegal immigrants would be the easiest to deal with, and doing so hits targets/ticks boxes.
On the issue if ID cards, no it won't help if (IF) someone is working cash-in-hand below the radar, and the CPS is already overwhelmed with a backlog of cases, so even if it is introduced in theory, in practice it would probably take many years for such cases to reach the review and assessment stage.
If someone can't get work, given that they've already committed an offence by entering the country, it wouldn't be that surprising if a fair percentage of these people turn to (more) crime for support if they can't work (but are free to wander around the community to commit that crime). Guaranteed that such data won't be available though.
And the one-in-one out policy has already been identified as flawed, so that's another waste of taxpayers' money; add in the fact that France doesn't seem too keen to keep such people within it's own national boundaries and it's clear that the solution needs to be 100% home-grown and home-driven.
As for reallocation of resources, the NHS has got to find 1 billion (1 BILLION!!!) pounds to pay for the redundancy of a handful of managers and administrators. Instead of paying them off, open up an avenue for these people to move into a department that helps address illegal immigration and there's an instant win-win for the government (but not the State).
We all know why you don't want the digital ID cards because it would catch you out wouldn't it!
And we can all see that you have absolutely zero knowledge and experience of living and working abroad.
Incidentally, all UK pensioners are specifically excluded from being required to hold a Karmercard, so how would that impact me?
Your very lucky l ain't a grass unlike you when worked TV detector vans..ironically lol
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Nov 2025, 09:55
by Fauxstralian
If someone is working as a desk jockey in the NHS you can’t ‘transfer’ them into UK ICE to hunt illegals
Youd effectively be making them redundant and have to pay them off
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025, 07:43
Mike
Isnt the concern people coming in and getting benefits & housing rather than them coming in and working?
Apart from acknowledging that anyone travelling from France (ie a safe country) isn’t a refugee you don’t think making refugee status a temporary thing isn’t an improvement?
Or that introducing a Digital ID & prosecuting anyone employing someone without one also would help
More resources are obviously needed
Perhaps in the modern era of communications we could decrease the number of MP’s from 600 to 60 & the rest could be employed rooting out illegal workers.
If they have a legitimate job offer and are sponsored by the employer, no problem, but there's already an immigration channel/path set up for such cases.
Additionally, there's probably a legal requirement for councils to address homelessness and these illegal immigrants would be the easiest to deal with, and doing so hits targets/ticks boxes.
On the issue if ID cards, no it won't help if (IF) someone is working cash-in-hand below the radar, and the CPS is already overwhelmed with a backlog of cases, so even if it is introduced in theory, in practice it would probably take many years for such cases to reach the review and assessment stage.
If someone can't get work, given that they've already committed an offence by entering the country, it wouldn't be that surprising if a fair percentage of these people turn to (more) crime for support if they can't work (but are free to wander around the community to commit that crime). Guaranteed that such data won't be available though.
And the one-in-one out policy has already been identified as flawed, so that's another waste of taxpayers' money; add in the fact that France doesn't seem too keen to keep such people within it's own national boundaries and it's clear that the solution needs to be 100% home-grown and home-driven.
As for reallocation of resources, the NHS has got to find 1 billion (1 BILLION!!!) pounds to pay for the redundancy of a handful of managers and administrators. Instead of paying them off, open up an avenue for these people to move into a department that helps address illegal immigration and there's an instant win-win for the government (but not the State).
We all know why you don't want the digital ID cards because it would catch you out wouldn't it!
And we can all see that you have absolutely zero knowledge and experience of living and working abroad.
Incidentally, all UK pensioners are specifically excluded from being required to hold a Karmercard, so how would that impact me?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025, 07:43
Mike
Isnt the concern people coming in and getting benefits & housing rather than them coming in and working?
Apart from acknowledging that anyone travelling from France (ie a safe country) isn’t a refugee you don’t think making refugee status a temporary thing isn’t an improvement?
Or that introducing a Digital ID & prosecuting anyone employing someone without one also would help
More resources are obviously needed
Perhaps in the modern era of communications we could decrease the number of MP’s from 600 to 60 & the rest could be employed rooting out illegal workers.
If they have a legitimate job offer and are sponsored by the employer, no problem, but there's already an immigration channel/path set up for such cases.
Additionally, there's probably a legal requirement for councils to address homelessness and these illegal immigrants would be the easiest to deal with, and doing so hits targets/ticks boxes.
On the issue if ID cards, no it won't help if (IF) someone is working cash-in-hand below the radar, and the CPS is already overwhelmed with a backlog of cases, so even if it is introduced in theory, in practice it would probably take many years for such cases to reach the review and assessment stage.
If someone can't get work, given that they've already committed an offence by entering the country, it wouldn't be that surprising if a fair percentage of these people turn to (more) crime for support if they can't work (but are free to wander around the community to commit that crime). Guaranteed that such data won't be available though.
And the one-in-one out policy has already been identified as flawed, so that's another waste of taxpayers' money; add in the fact that France doesn't seem too keen to keep such people within it's own national boundaries and it's clear that the solution needs to be 100% home-grown and home-driven.
As for reallocation of resources, the NHS has got to find 1 billion (1 BILLION!!!) pounds to pay for the redundancy of a handful of managers and administrators. Instead of paying them off, open up an avenue for these people to move into a department that helps address illegal immigration and there's an instant win-win for the government (but not the State).
We all know why you don't want the digital ID cards because it would catch you out wouldn't it!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Nov 2025, 08:28
by Mike Oxsaw
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025, 07:43
Mike
Isnt the concern people coming in and getting benefits & housing rather than them coming in and working?
Apart from acknowledging that anyone travelling from France (ie a safe country) isn’t a refugee you don’t think making refugee status a temporary thing isn’t an improvement?
Or that introducing a Digital ID & prosecuting anyone employing someone without one also would help
More resources are obviously needed
Perhaps in the modern era of communications we could decrease the number of MP’s from 600 to 60 & the rest could be employed rooting out illegal workers.
If they have a legitimate job offer and are sponsored by the employer, no problem, but there's already an immigration channel/path set up for such cases.
Additionally, there's probably a legal requirement for councils to address homelessness and these illegal immigrants would be the easiest to deal with, and doing so hits targets/ticks boxes.
On the issue if ID cards, no it won't help if (IF) someone is working cash-in-hand below the radar, and the CPS is already overwhelmed with a backlog of cases, so even if it is introduced in theory, in practice it would probably take many years for such cases to reach the review and assessment stage.
If someone can't get work, given that they've already committed an offence by entering the country, it wouldn't be that surprising if a fair percentage of these people turn to (more) crime for support if they can't work (but are free to wander around the community to commit that crime). Guaranteed that such data won't be available though.
And the one-in-one out policy has already been identified as flawed, so that's another waste of taxpayers' money; add in the fact that France doesn't seem too keen to keep such people within it's own national boundaries and it's clear that the solution needs to be 100% home-grown and home-driven.
As for reallocation of resources, the NHS has got to find 1 billion (1 BILLION!!!) pounds to pay for the redundancy of a handful of managers and administrators. Instead of paying them off, open up an avenue for these people to move into a department that helps address illegal immigration and there's an instant win-win for the government (but not the State).
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Nov 2025, 08:24
by XKhammer
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑16 Nov 2025, 07:43
Mike
Isnt the concern people coming in and getting benefits & housing rather than them coming in and working?
Apart from acknowledging that anyone travelling from France (ie a safe country) isn’t a refugee you don’t think making refugee status a temporary thing isn’t an improvement?
Or that introducing a Digital ID & prosecuting anyone employing someone without one also would help
More resources are obviously needed
Perhaps in the modern era of communications we could decrease the number of MP’s from 600 to 60 & the rest could be employed rooting out illegal workers.
Dream on if think the MP's will vote themselves out of a well paid corrupt job and actually do a proper job like rooting out illegals,but 100% agree with using digital ID and seizing the assets of any companies etc who hire illegals
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 16 Nov 2025, 07:43
by Fauxstralian
Mike
Isnt the concern people coming in and getting benefits & housing rather than them coming in and working?
Apart from acknowledging that anyone travelling from France (ie a safe country) isn’t a refugee you don’t think making refugee status a temporary thing isn’t an improvement?
Or that introducing a Digital ID & prosecuting anyone employing someone without one also would help
More resources are obviously needed
Perhaps in the modern era of communications we could decrease the number of MP’s from 600 to 60 & the rest could be employed rooting out illegal workers.
