West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread

[muskie]

Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.

Watch this space.

I think we're fucked.

[BoleynGone]

Typical of you to have a go at the kids.
The game was a draw 2-2.
We didn't lose the game but if you want that to fit your pathectic agenda go ahead.
The kids put in a performance against a good National League team. As good as the first team against City.They had 2 players go off injured at crucial times and had to bring on 2 even younger players.
What a cսnt you are.
Some have barely played for the U21's this season and you choose to have a go at them.
What a complete and utter wanker you are.

I'll spell this out for once again.
WE SCORE AT AN AVERAGE OF 1 GOAL A GAME AND CONCEDE 1 GOAL A GAME THAT IS 1-1

For you to understnad this it's quite simple.
Villa are 4th because over the course of the season the have acheived the 4th best amount of points on the league.
West Ham are 18th because over the course of the season we have achieved the 18th most points.
By your logic the season should end now and we finish 9th.
What an idiot.
 

[BoleynGone]

No you complete moron.
Take away our 3-1 success against Sunderland and where does that leave us ?
You can't just take away a heavy defeat to fit your agenda,stupid.
 

[Manuel]

I have a feeling Tottenham and Forest will somehow be ok and Leeds will get seriously dragged into it. I think it will ultimately be between Leeds and us and it could well come down to the final game of the season.

It still irks me that Nuno blew the away game at Leeds with his stupid formation and tactics. That defeat could well prove decisive.

For that to happen we will need the Bees to get at least a point there on Saturday.

[Come On You Irons]

I have a feeling Tottenham and Forest will somehow be ok and Leeds will get seriously dragged into it. I think it will ultimately be between Leeds and us and it could well come down to the final game of the season.

It still irks me that Nuno blew the away game at Leeds with his stupid formation and tactics. That defeat could well prove decisive.

[fraser]

Oh and the 1-1 over 8 games doesn't yield only 8 points we could lose 7-0 in one and win the rest 1-0 what absolute shit mental gymnastics to turn our 1 5 points a game into 1 point a game... Take away the Liverpool game then we've scored 5 and let in 2 in 5 games so according to your logic we win the rest of our games based on that. 

[fraser]

No it's not if read what I wrote.
We score 1 goal conceded 1
that's 1-1
I'm being realistic in that I don't think our form is that great.
It's better than it was but it's not relagation saving form.Form stops at the last game. The next game is important.Form changes otherwise the team winning their first games would continue exactly the same.
I'm saying that if we keep up not going for wins we'll end up getting mainly draws. 
When we have attacked more we win or get a good lead. When we go and sit back,like v Chelsea and Bournemouth we end up losing or losing a 2 gaol lead.
Don't know why it's so hard to understand.

We're 11th over those last 6 games above our rivals.. But to you being above them and gaining more points isn't good enough? 

Bournemouth still haven't lost this year in 10 league games so there were 9 other teams that just aren't good enough and against Chelsea we ran out of steam but went 2 up and should have been more.. 1.5 points a game is 57 points over the course of a season it's plenty good enough to avoid relegation if we maintain that.. 2 wins, 3 draws and a loss in the next six will probably keep us up and we will still have 3 games left.. Stop fucking whining.. Or maybe you would prefer kids in the team who weren't good enough to beat Borehamwood... 

[BoleynGone]

No it's not if read what I wrote.
We score 1 goal conceded 1
that's 1-1
I'm being realistic in that I don't think our form is that great.
It's better than it was but it's not relagation saving form.Form stops at the last game. The next game is important.Form changes otherwise the team winning their first games would continue exactly the same.
I'm saying that if we keep up not going for wins we'll end up getting mainly draws. 
When we have attacked more we win or get a good lead. When we go and sit back,like v Chelsea and Bournemouth we end up losing or losing a 2 gaol lead.
Don't know why it's so hard to understand.

[Manuel]

Yeah I'm not convinced they've turned a corner either as they finished 4th in the league stage of that while stinking out the PL. 

But I also think them beating Forest heavily would be the best result for us 

1-0 will do me.

1-0 won't do for me we need to get Forest's GD down to near us or below us.

In an ideal world yes, but believe it's currently only a 2 goal swing. Also, going on percentages, I doubt we will end up on the same points at the end.

[Far Cough UKunt]

Yeah I'm not convinced they've turned a corner either as they finished 4th in the league stage of that while stinking out the PL. 

But I also think them beating Forest heavily would be the best result for us 

1-0 will do me.

1-0 won't do for me we need to get Forest's GD down to near us or below us.

[Manuel]

Yeah I'm not convinced they've turned a corner either as they finished 4th in the league stage of that while stinking out the PL. 

But I also think them beating Forest heavily would be the best result for us 

1-0 will do me.

[fraser]

Yeah I'm not convinced they've turned a corner either as they finished 4th in the league stage of that while stinking out the PL. 

But I also think them beating Forest heavily would be the best result for us, especially if we get something from Villa as it would mean us going into the break safe with one loss in ten and them in the bottom three having not won in eight... Despite BoleynGone's shit maths that's our form much better than theirs and them in a hole which will be hard to get out of. 

[honky cat]

I can't see spurs going down, but to say they've turned a corner after winning last night is a bit of a stretch. That tie was all over last week. 
I still think a draw with forest would be the best result for us, keep everyone in line and then hope we get a run of results after villa. Will we ever beat wolves?

[Westham67]

Spurs look like they have turned corner so Forest should get a hiding

[dealcanvey]

Current form would give us 42 points and safety. I do think that anything less than 40 though would not be enough. 

[fraser]

Since February we've won 2 drawn 3 lost 1 scored 7 conceded 7
Nuno's in heaven. That's our great form spell.
That makes a pretty near damn average of 1-1 a point a game.
That won't make us safe. 8 points,plus our goal difference will stay the same.
So yes tell Nuno we need to win games as he doesn't really get it.







 

 

 

That's 1.5 points a game and easily keeps us up I don't think you get it.

Considering our rivals are averaging less than a point in fact spurs are averaging less than a point over their last 60 games

In fact how thick are you over the last 6 games that's 9 points but over the next 8 games it will be 8 points... 

[dealcanvey]

Since February we've won 2 drawn 3 lost 1 scored 7 conceded 7
Nuno's in heaven. That's our great form spell.
That makes a pretty near damn average of 1-1 a point a game.
That won't make us safe. 8 points,plus our goal difference will stay the same.
So yes tell Nuno we need to win games as he doesn't really get it.



 

You do realise that’s 9 points from 6 games? That’s 1.5 points a game. You’re miles off but if it helps you spread some negativity then why not go all out. 

[BoleynGone]

Since February we've won 2 drawn 3 lost 1 scored 7 conceded 7
Nuno's in heaven. That's our great form spell.
That makes a pretty near damn average of 1-1 a point a game.
That won't make us safe. 8 points,plus our goal difference will stay the same.
So yes tell Nuno we need to win games as he doesn't really get it.

 

[Mad Ferret]

Sp*rs are out of it for me. Too good to go down, no Europe anymore, and easy fixtures.

We need to focus on Forest and Leeds.

Hopefully Forest progress in Europe tonight.

[Tomshardware]

I can't see spurs not beating Forest, they do seemed to have turned a corner.  

[BoleynGone]

Tom
Agreed about Sunderland. When I was doing the WORLDFOOTBALL.NET fixture calculator predictor thing I was quite suprised at how vunerable they become. I feel though that the fixtures around the teams in the bottom half mean they will just be safe but if you look at my final table it's very close in the end between the bottom 8. 
I still think Leeds will fold a bit, they've had there good spell.

https://www.worldfootball.net/competiti ... alculator/
 

[Nutsin]

I don't think Sunderland are safe,  yes they probably only need 1 more win but their form is bottom 3 and they don't have an easy run in.

Fucking hell Tom you stoned?

[Vexed]

Despite the upturn of form since the new year and closing the gap significantly I still feel we need to start winning games and probably back to back ones to boot.

The likes of Leeds can probably survive on a point a game but we need wins at this crucial stage when there is little or no margin for error.and we are fast running out of road.

It's hard to predict how opposition teams will perform at this stage and we cant be certain that some sides with nothing to play for wont already on the beach when we or indeed our relegation rivals face them.

We simply have to do our upmost  to win our games as there is nothing more demoralising than sitting back defending only to concede late on and finish up with nothing for our efforts.

Obviously playing against City or Arsenal a point is a bonus but as for the rest we should be on the front foot.

If we go down I want us to of gone down fighting.

Start winning you say? That's a good idea. You should send the club an email or something.

We don't need to start doing anything, we're in the best form of the four teams, we just need to continue. Points per game over the last 5 (10):
West Ham: 1.2 (1.5)
Forest : 0.6 (1.1)
Leeds : 0.6 (1.0) 
Spurs : 0.2 (0.3)

On paper taking into account who we're playing, where we're playing them and their form home or away over the last ten games we are judged to have the hardest game average difficulty out of 100:
West Ham: 44.3
Leeds :  44.0
Forest : 42.9
Spurs : 41.0

But there's not much in it. I think we have plenty of reasons to be optimistic. But tell Nuno about that winning more games idea, it might just work. 

[eusebiovic]

I'm quietly optimistic without taking anything for granted. I can sense a run of wins ahead of us...2 or 3 at least.

In the run up to Christmas I was hoping they would able to pick something up but the truth was they were so shockingly bad that I wasn't expecting anything against Forest, Fulham and Wolves. So it proved...which made it even worse.

Now they have a foot in the door...they have given themselves a chance so let's hope we're the customary team that fires up the turbo and manages to pull clear.

[Gary Strodders shank]

Despite the upturn of form since the new year and closing the gap significantly I still feel we need to start winning games and probably back to back ones to boot.

The likes of Leeds can probably survive on a point a game but we need wins at this crucial stage when there is little or no margin for error.and we are fast running out of road.

It's hard to predict how opposition teams will perform at this stage and we cant be certain that some sides with nothing to play for wont already on the beach when we or indeed our relegation rivals face them.

We simply have to do our upmost  to win our games as there is nothing more demoralising than sitting back defending only to concede late on and finish up with nothing for our efforts.

Obviously playing against City or Arsenal a point is a bonus but as for the rest we should be on the front foot.

If we go down I want us to of gone down fighting.

[Massive Attack]

What they can be to us though should they likely lose at Newcastle, is go for it against both Forest and Spurs games as they can't have the mentality of they are definitely safe yet, just as they did against Leeds recently keeping them in it.