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There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

Fireworks with the Trump and Zelensky meeting. All televised!

Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 20:17

only1billybonds wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 15:42 Violated.

All perfectly normal if a drunken brawlbhas taken place according to someone on the woke thread.

Only it wasn't a brawl, the mp continued to batter a bloke who wouldnt/ couldnt defend himself.

Assuming the MP is of previous good character with no convictions, etc, then five years ago I would have said OK, suspended sentence and community service, alcohol rehabilitation thingy, sounds reasonable. But since then we've seen someone go to prison for shouting at a police dog and others imprisoned for twitter posts. Just doesn't seem right.

I see Starmer blatantly sat there and lied to the world about freedom of speech in the UK.

Does he think that we all live under a rock ffs.

Meanwhile kids continue to be under attack and the good people are thrown in Jail for trying to expose the culprits and save the children from further harm.

what an absolute intolerable weasel this cսnt is.
Since when do you put your kids n harms way and then protect the very people attacking them?

The man is pure evil. How does anyone who is not a kiddy fiddler still support this cսnt! 

 

Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 20:17

only1billybonds wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 15:42 Violated.

All perfectly normal if a drunken brawlbhas taken place according to someone on the woke thread.

Only it wasn't a brawl, the mp continued to batter a bloke who wouldnt/ couldnt defend himself.

Assuming the MP is of previous good character with no convictions, etc, then five years ago I would have said OK, suspended sentence and community service, alcohol rehabilitation thingy, sounds reasonable. But since then we've seen someone go to prison for shouting at a police dog and others imprisoned for twitter posts. Just doesn't seem right.

only1billybonds wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 15:42 Violated.

All perfectly normal if a drunken brawlbhas taken place according to someone on the woke thread.

Only it wasn't a brawl, the mp continued to batter a bloke who wouldnt/ couldnt defend himself.

zebthecat wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 16:25

Actually the sentence is suspended pending appeal.
Lose that appeal, which he will given that video, and off to prison he goes.
It won't stop his election recall either as he has still been convicted.

  

violator wrote: ↑27 Feb 2025, 13:06 i see Keir has pulled some strings and got Amesbury off the hook and out of going to prison
 

Violated.

All perfectly normal if a drunken brawlbhas taken place according to someone on the woke thread.

Only it wasn't a brawl, the mp continued to batter a bloke who wouldnt/ couldnt defend himself.

i see Keir has pulled some strings and got Amesbury off the hook and out of going to prison

One for Billy boy and northbank Frank:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62zzxeeveeo

over 100,000 people claimed asylum last year. Close on 300,000 people in a 3 year period.

Tomorrow we get to see the Epstein list according to Bondi the Attorney General. 

Trump is considering a golden card pathway to US citizenship, you have to buy it for a cool $5 million per card but it will give you a green card and a right to citizenship if you behave it will bring in some much needed money. Every 250,000 people sign up will generate a trillion dollars for the treasury. 

DOGE digging up all sorts of waste in Gov’t spending and of course corruption. Shit on some dirty Dems beginning to surface.

Trumps New tax bill is progressing well. No tax on social security, tips or overtime.

All this winning, it’s too much! 

MAGA!

More promises made being kept. 
 

I see H&P is, as usual, resorting to faux injured feelings and long-winded deflection. The fact that indigenous parents have children has no bearing on calculating the true cost/benefit of a migrant.
 
Can't the mods ban his obvious alt username as well?

northbankfrank wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 16:33

Cony Tottee" wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 14:34 'However those migrant low skilled workers tend to be the ones that are orderlies, nurses, nursing assistans and porters in our hospitals'

Agreed but isn't this a circular argument?  The only reason we need more of the jobs listed is because we have over 10M people in this country who weren't born here, plus their dependants.  Had we had a sensible immigration policy over the last 20 years then we wouldn't need to import even more low paid workers to care for the people who have arrived in that time.

 

 

Simple conclusions for simple people.

People aged 65 and over account for over 40% of hospital admissions. They occupy around two-thirds of hospital inpatient beds.

2021 census shows just over 11.1 million people (18.6% of the UK population) are over 65.  Of those, 10.4 million (17.4%) are white. 

Hence the orderlies, nurses, nursing assistants and porters in our hospitals are primarily looking after our ageing white population, not the immigrants over the past 20 years that people on this site despise.

UK get the bess fird world doctors

Franks nailed it on the head here.

Britain like other western countries, is faced with the problem of an increasingly aging population percentage wise and all that extra pressure it puts on an already failing health service.

Those selfish bastards. They could've at least chipped in a bit, I don't know, paid in monthly, could call it something like National insurance contributions, or maybe something else a bit more catchy?

Obviously though, the answer to solve all this is to have practically zero control of our borders, thus adding to erm, the problem.

It's obvious when you think about it.

*Raises glass to Frank*

Why is the colour of people being brought up? Thought the conversation was about migrants, regardless of what they look like or where the're from?

Cony Tottee" wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 14:34 'However those migrant low skilled workers tend to be the ones that are orderlies, nurses, nursing assistans and porters in our hospitals'

Agreed but isn't this a circular argument?  The only reason we need more of the jobs listed is because we have over 10M people in this country who weren't born here, plus their dependants.  Had we had a sensible immigration policy over the last 20 years then we wouldn't need to import even more low paid workers to care for the people who have arrived in that time.

  

Yep there you go....!!!

WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 14:58 Economically inactive is a bit harsh.

They seem to spend a fucking fortune in Sports Direct.

Economically inactive is a bit harsh.

They seem to spend a fucking fortune in Sports Direct.

Cony Tottee" wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 14:34 'However those migrant low skilled workers tend to be the ones that are orderlies, nurses, nursing assistans and porters in our hospitals'

Agreed but isn't this a circular argument?  The only reason we need more of the jobs listed is because we have over 10M people in this country who weren't born here, plus their dependants.  Had we had a sensible immigration policy over the last 20 years then we wouldn't need to import even more low paid workers to care for the people who have arrived in that time.

Cony Tottee" wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 14:34 'However those migrant low skilled workers tend to be the ones that are orderlies, nurses, nursing assistans and porters in our hospitals'

Agreed but isn't this a circular argument?  The only reason we need more of the jobs listed is because we have over 10M people in this country who weren't born here, plus their dependants.  Had we had a sensible immigration policy over the last 20 years then we wouldn't need to import even more low paid workers to care for the people who have arrived in that time.

'However those migrant low skilled workers tend to be the ones that are orderlies, nurses, nursing assistans and porters in our hospitals'

Agreed but isn't this a circular argument?  The only reason we need more of the jobs listed is because we have over 10M people in this country who weren't born here, plus their dependants.  Had we had a sensible immigration policy over the last 20 years then we wouldn't need to import even more low paid workers to care for the people who have arrived in that time.

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 14:02

goose wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:57

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:52

And how does that cost differ from the Low Skilled UK nationals children's health care and education exactly?

Carry on name calling when completely missing the point.. top work!

Again its clear from people's posts that its not the cost to the UK thats the issue its that they are immigrants.

How is it clear Billy? Nobody has said anything that isn’t factual about immigration and immigrants.

There are already low skilled workers in the UK, why would you choose to import more?

I was referring to Surfaces angry response but if the cap fits!!

Yep I agree and those low paid low skilled workers whether migrants or UK nationals are a drain.  However those migrant low skilled workers tend to be the ones that are orderlies, nurses, nursing assistans and porters in our hospitals because the UK low skilled dont want to do those jobs so we have to fill those employment gaps.

 

goose wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:57

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 13:52

SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑26 Feb 2025, 12:22

It's not their education expense that's the issue, it's the education of their children, their children's healthcare and their own healthcare, you utter moron.

And how does that cost differ from the Low Skilled UK nationals children's health care and education exactly?

Carry on name calling when completely missing the point.. top work!

Again its clear from people's posts that its not the cost to the UK thats the issue its that they are immigrants.

How is it clear Billy? Nobody has said anything that isn’t factual about immigration and immigrants.

There are already low skilled workers in the UK, why would you choose to import more?