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SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 16:49 It's at times like this that I'm reminded of the Young Turks and just how analogous they were to what we had to put up with Charlton squatting at the old gaff

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 16:37

WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 16:26 When you think about it, the Suez crisis was pretty much exactly like when Highfield Road became Englands first all-seater stadium.

Any other major world events with such close parallels to the developments of English football grounds?

True Exeter.

On reflection the 'Arab Spring' was a lot like Manchester United fans anti-Glazer demonstrations.

Oh friend, friend, friend, Oh Friend!! 

WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 16:26 When you think about it, the Suez crisis was pretty much exactly like when Highfield Road became Englands first all-seater stadium.

Any other major world events with such close parallels to the developments of English football grounds?

WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 16:26 When you think about it, the Suez crisis was pretty much exactly like when Highfield Road became Englands first all-seater stadium.

Any other major world events with such close parallels to the developments of English football grounds?

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 16:32

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 16:03

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:51

 

So what you are saying is there is absolutely no parallel no matter the insignificance at all on any level between Palestinians being forced to leave their home and West Ham fans being forced to move from Upton Park because lets face it we did not have a choice - you know what that means it wasn't our decision the Club Board decided. Even for the purposes of explaining to an idiot (thats you btw) None at all yeah!

Oh and even on a hypothetical basis (you do know what that means right, it means like a an imaginary situation, not a real thing) for the purpose of explaining to a simpleton like yourself lets "pretend" West Ham fans did protest vehemently about the move and were dead against it, that wouldn't work as an analogy because the Isreali army haven't bombed Green Street yeah! 

Thanks for clarifying Goose - I bow to your immense understanding of the English language!

I look forward to the next analogy being used (without checking with you first) on WHO by some unsuspecting fool like me (but not necessarily me it could be someone else - just to make that clear so you don't get confused) that is highlighting a serious issue but because you don't agree that the analogy is 100% exactly the same as the situation it is being used to compare to, you decide to derail their argument because you look like a fucking idiot when its explained to you!

Or maybe it might be you that uses an analogy - but that's not likely you'll only fuck it up! "Der yeah like Palestinians being forceably removed from their homeland in Gaza is like "Asians" being forced out of Uganda" - Oh no hold on their Goosey President Amin did not bomb their homeland he just gave them 90 days to get out - and I know this because I used to work with a guy from India whose family were expelled at the time. So that analogy doesn't work!

Good Luck!

Praise the Lord I think Billy is finally catching on.
Yes there absolutely no parallel between west ham moving stadiums and what is going on in Gaza.

it's hilarious that you cannot comprehend that, while at the same time calling other people stupid.

 

Oh dear poor Goosey - still doesn't get it - yes you really are as stupid as I thought!

So now you think Palestinians being forcefully removed is not like Asians being forced out of Uganda!? Rightio...

End of discussion as you are clearly extremely dense like a black hole - oh wait that doesn't work because a black hole has a density of 4 x 1014 g/cm3 and Goosey is only 985 kg/cm!! Damn how do I get the message across now that Goose has redefined analogies!

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 16:03

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:51

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:12

Nope.

the definition means there’s similarities & parallels between the real thing and the analogy you’re attempting to use.

it doesn’t work because there are none. That is why other posters told you that your analogy doesn’t work. you can keep shouting and getting angry, but we both know that west ham weren't forced to move stadiums.

 

So what you are saying is there is absolutely no parallel no matter the insignificance at all on any level between Palestinians being forced to leave their home and West Ham fans being forced to move from Upton Park because lets face it we did not have a choice - you know what that means it wasn't our decision the Club Board decided. Even for the purposes of explaining to an idiot (thats you btw) None at all yeah!

Oh and even on a hypothetical basis (you do know what that means right, it means like a an imaginary situation, not a real thing) for the purpose of explaining to a simpleton like yourself lets "pretend" West Ham fans did protest vehemently about the move and were dead against it, that wouldn't work as an analogy because the Isreali army haven't bombed Green Street yeah! 

Thanks for clarifying Goose - I bow to your immense understanding of the English language!

I look forward to the next analogy being used (without checking with you first) on WHO by some unsuspecting fool like me (but not necessarily me it could be someone else - just to make that clear so you don't get confused) that is highlighting a serious issue but because you don't agree that the analogy is 100% exactly the same as the situation it is being used to compare to, you decide to derail their argument because you look like a fucking idiot when its explained to you!

Or maybe it might be you that uses an analogy - but that's not likely you'll only fuck it up! "Der yeah like Palestinians being forceably removed from their homeland in Gaza is like "Asians" being forced out of Uganda" - Oh no hold on their Goosey President Amin did not bomb their homeland he just gave them 90 days to get out - and I know this because I used to work with a guy from India whose family were expelled at the time. So that analogy doesn't work!

Good Luck!

Praise the Lord I think Billy is finally catching on.
Yes there absolutely no parallel between west ham moving stadiums and what is going on in Gaza.

it's hilarious that you cannot comprehend that, while at the same time calling other people stupid.

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:51

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:12

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 14:29

Yeah I agree why would anyone be talking about West Hams move to the new stadium - so now based on your definition analogies need to be current and in the news and exactly the same as the situation you are comparing them too, do you have any more criteria that need to be met in order to validate an analogy before its use? I'll definitely be coming back to you next time!

You seem determined to be proved right about something to prove an analogy incorrect when the point is the Trump plan is bonkers and will never happen and why should the Palestinians move out of their home - my point to you was you don't really understand analogies which is still clearly the case - no matter what you say, you don't understand the use of explaining a scenario by using a simpler analogy to make it simple for the hard of thinking - unfortunately you are clearly thicker than even I thought maybe I need to draw you a picture - do you have your crayons with you or have you eaten them all?

Nope.

the definition means there’s similarities & parallels between the real thing and the analogy you’re attempting to use.

it doesn’t work because there are none. That is why other posters told you that your analogy doesn’t work. you can keep shouting and getting angry, but we both know that west ham weren't forced to move stadiums.

 

So what you are saying is there is absolutely no parallel no matter the insignificance at all on any level between Palestinians being forced to leave their home and West Ham fans being forced to move from Upton Park because lets face it we did not have a choice - you know what that means it wasn't our decision the Club Board decided. Even for the purposes of explaining to an idiot (thats you btw) None at all yeah!

Oh and even on a hypothetical basis (you do know what that means right, it means like a an imaginary situation, not a real thing) for the purpose of explaining to a simpleton like yourself lets "pretend" West Ham fans did protest vehemently about the move and were dead against it, that wouldn't work as an analogy because the Isreali army haven't bombed Green Street yeah! 

Thanks for clarifying Goose - I bow to your immense understanding of the English language!

I look forward to the next analogy being used (without checking with you first) on WHO by some unsuspecting fool like me (but not necessarily me it could be someone else - just to make that clear so you don't get confused) that is highlighting a serious issue but because you don't agree that the analogy is 100% exactly the same as the situation it is being used to compare to, you decide to derail their argument because you look like a fucking idiot when its explained to you!

Or maybe it might be you that uses an analogy - but that's not likely you'll only fuck it up! "Der yeah like Palestinians being forceably removed from their homeland in Gaza is like "Asians" being forced out of Uganda" - Oh no hold on their Goosey President Amin did not bomb their homeland he just gave them 90 days to get out - and I know this because I used to work with a guy from India whose family were expelled at the time. So that analogy doesn't work!

Good Luck!

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:51

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:12

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 14:29

Yeah I agree why would anyone be talking about West Hams move to the new stadium - so now based on your definition analogies need to be current and in the news and exactly the same as the situation you are comparing them too, do you have any more criteria that need to be met in order to validate an analogy before its use? I'll definitely be coming back to you next time!

You seem determined to be proved right about something to prove an analogy incorrect when the point is the Trump plan is bonkers and will never happen and why should the Palestinians move out of their home - my point to you was you don't really understand analogies which is still clearly the case - no matter what you say, you don't understand the use of explaining a scenario by using a simpler analogy to make it simple for the hard of thinking - unfortunately you are clearly thicker than even I thought maybe I need to draw you a picture - do you have your crayons with you or have you eaten them all?

Nope.

the definition means there’s similarities & parallels between the real thing and the analogy you’re attempting to use.

it doesn’t work because there are none. That is why other posters told you that your analogy doesn’t work. you can keep shouting and getting angry, but we both know that west ham weren't forced to move stadiums.

 

So what you are saying is there is absolutely no parallel no matter the insignificance at all on any level between Palestinians being forced to leave their home and West Ham fans being forced to move from Upton Park because lets face it we did not have a choice - you know what that means it wasn't our decision the Club Board decided. Even for the purposes of explaining to an idiot (thats you btw) None at all yeah!

Oh and even on a hypothetical basis (you do know what that means right, it means like a an imaginary situation, not a real thing) for the purpose of explaining to a simpleton like yourself lets "pretend" West Ham fans did protest vehemently about the move and were dead against it, that wouldn't work as an analogy because the Isreali army haven't bombed Green Street yeah! 

Thanks for clarifying Goose - I bow to your immense understanding of the English language!

I look forward to the next analogy being used (without checking with you first) on WHO by some unsuspecting fool like me (but not necessarily me it could be someone else - just to make that clear so you don't get confused) that is highlighting a serious issue but because you don't agree that the analogy is 100% exactly the same as the situation it is being used to compare to, you decide to derail their argument because you look like a fucking idiot when its explained to you!

Or maybe it might be you that uses an analogy - but that's not likely you'll only fuck it up! "Der yeah like Palestinians being forceably removed from their homeland in Gaza is like "Asians" being forced out of Uganda" - Oh no hold on their Goosey President Amin did not bomb their homeland he just gave them 90 days to get out - and I know this because I used to work with a guy from India whose family were expelled at the time. So that analogy doesn't work!

Good Luck!

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:12

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 14:29

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 13:07

You could easily pull apart the scope of the poll and the source............ but its really not worth it.

Its pretty simple - If so many people were forced then where were the protests? where was the outrage? the boycott? none of it happened because most were happy for the club to move forward.

and all of this because you cannot admit that the analogy you posted up was a poor one. you carry on twisting yourself in knots instead of just admitting the analogy doesn't hold. Or you can carry on throwing at insults at anyone who disagrees with you. Take your pick.

i'm fairly confident that when i turn on the news tonight, or read the news online, nobody will be comparing Trumps plan for Gaza to West Ham moving to the olympic stadium.

Yeah I agree why would anyone be talking about West Hams move to the new stadium - so now based on your definition analogies need to be current and in the news and exactly the same as the situation you are comparing them too, do you have any more criteria that need to be met in order to validate an analogy before its use? I'll definitely be coming back to you next time!

You seem determined to be proved right about something to prove an analogy incorrect when the point is the Trump plan is bonkers and will never happen and why should the Palestinians move out of their home - my point to you was you don't really understand analogies which is still clearly the case - no matter what you say, you don't understand the use of explaining a scenario by using a simpler analogy to make it simple for the hard of thinking - unfortunately you are clearly thicker than even I thought maybe I need to draw you a picture - do you have your crayons with you or have you eaten them all?

Nope.

the definition means there’s similarities & parallels between the real thing and the analogy you’re attempting to use.

it doesn’t work because there are none. That is why other posters told you that your analogy doesn’t work. you can keep shouting and getting angry, but we both know that west ham weren't forced to move stadiums.

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:12

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 14:29

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 13:07

You could easily pull apart the scope of the poll and the source............ but its really not worth it.

Its pretty simple - If so many people were forced then where were the protests? where was the outrage? the boycott? none of it happened because most were happy for the club to move forward.

and all of this because you cannot admit that the analogy you posted up was a poor one. you carry on twisting yourself in knots instead of just admitting the analogy doesn't hold. Or you can carry on throwing at insults at anyone who disagrees with you. Take your pick.

i'm fairly confident that when i turn on the news tonight, or read the news online, nobody will be comparing Trumps plan for Gaza to West Ham moving to the olympic stadium.

Yeah I agree why would anyone be talking about West Hams move to the new stadium - so now based on your definition analogies need to be current and in the news and exactly the same as the situation you are comparing them too, do you have any more criteria that need to be met in order to validate an analogy before its use? I'll definitely be coming back to you next time!

You seem determined to be proved right about something to prove an analogy incorrect when the point is the Trump plan is bonkers and will never happen and why should the Palestinians move out of their home - my point to you was you don't really understand analogies which is still clearly the case - no matter what you say, you don't understand the use of explaining a scenario by using a simpler analogy to make it simple for the hard of thinking - unfortunately you are clearly thicker than even I thought maybe I need to draw you a picture - do you have your crayons with you or have you eaten them all?

Nope.

the definition means there’s similarities & parallels between the real thing and the analogy you’re attempting to use.

it doesn’t work because there are none. That is why other posters told you that your analogy doesn’t work. you can keep shouting and getting angry, but we both know that west ham weren't forced to move stadiums.

Hammer I am" wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 15:05

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 13:32 Good to see the UK thriving under the new government.
The BoE slashed its UK economy growth forecast to 0.75% in 2025, down from a previous forecast of 1.5%. Inflation will rise to 3.7% later this year, driven up by rises in gas prices.


 

only fair to note then that Trumps trade war threats have pushed est US growth down from 2.7 to 1.9% not sure there's any economic winners anywhere in western world at moment, barring maybe Scandi countries

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 14:29

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 13:07

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 12:25

 

Those that supported the move did not actively pursue a move, that was the Club not the supporters - you're rewriting both what you said and history too! That poll was done once the decision had already been made the decision wasn't based on the Poll. Even Sullivan himself said that half of the supporters probably don't want to move. The poll was always going to be worded to bend the result as all polls issued by the Club.Nearly nine out of 10 match-going West Ham United supporters oppose the club’s proposed move to the Olympic Stadium according to a supporters’ group. WHU’S VIEW? polled 2,431 fans before the club’s April home games against Birmingham City, Brighton and Hove Albion, and Hull City.The poll asked: “Based on all available information do you agree with West Ham United’s proposed move to the Olympic Stadium?” 13.4% said ‘Yes’, while 86.6% said ‘No’. The results have been sent to the London Legacy Development Corporation, Mayor’s Office, FA, DCMS, and West Ham.

You could easily pull apart the scope of the poll and the source............ but its really not worth it.

Its pretty simple - If so many people were forced then where were the protests? where was the outrage? the boycott? none of it happened because most were happy for the club to move forward.

and all of this because you cannot admit that the analogy you posted up was a poor one. you carry on twisting yourself in knots instead of just admitting the analogy doesn't hold. Or you can carry on throwing at insults at anyone who disagrees with you. Take your pick.

i'm fairly confident that when i turn on the news tonight, or read the news online, nobody will be comparing Trumps plan for Gaza to West Ham moving to the olympic stadium.

Yeah I agree why would anyone be talking about West Hams move to the new stadium - so now based on your definition analogies need to be current and in the news and exactly the same as the situation you are comparing them too, do you have any more criteria that need to be met in order to validate an analogy before its use? I'll definitely be coming back to you next time!

You seem determined to be proved right about something to prove an analogy incorrect when the point is the Trump plan is bonkers and will never happen and why should the Palestinians move out of their home - my point to you was you don't really understand analogies which is still clearly the case - no matter what you say, you don't understand the use of explaining a scenario by using a simpler analogy to make it simple for the hard of thinking - unfortunately you are clearly thicker than even I thought maybe I need to draw you a picture - do you have your crayons with you or have you eaten them all?

BRANDED wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 13:25 Good to see a two state solution

Israel and the USA

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 13:32 Good to see the UK thriving under the new government.
The BoE slashed its UK economy growth forecast to 0.75% in 2025, down from a previous forecast of 1.5%. Inflation will rise to 3.7% later this year, driven up by rises in gas prices.

 

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 13:07

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 12:25

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 11:13

Talk about re-writing history.
There were no protests about moving, nobody was forced to buy a season ticket at the new stadium. The club (as a whole inc the fans) chose to move. They actually did a survey and people wanted to move.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/22525290

"West Ham's relocation from Upton Park to the Olympic Stadium in Stratford has been backed by 85% of fans in a poll of supporters.Nearly 12,000 Hammers fans took part in the survey conducted by independent pollsters SMG YouGov.

nobody was forced.

 

Those that supported the move did not actively pursue a move, that was the Club not the supporters - you're rewriting both what you said and history too! That poll was done once the decision had already been made the decision wasn't based on the Poll. Even Sullivan himself said that half of the supporters probably don't want to move. The poll was always going to be worded to bend the result as all polls issued by the Club.Nearly nine out of 10 match-going West Ham United supporters oppose the club’s proposed move to the Olympic Stadium according to a supporters’ group. WHU’S VIEW? polled 2,431 fans before the club’s April home games against Birmingham City, Brighton and Hove Albion, and Hull City.The poll asked: “Based on all available information do you agree with West Ham United’s proposed move to the Olympic Stadium?” 13.4% said ‘Yes’, while 86.6% said ‘No’. The results have been sent to the London Legacy Development Corporation, Mayor’s Office, FA, DCMS, and West Ham.

You could easily pull apart the scope of the poll and the source............ but its really not worth it.

Its pretty simple - If so many people were forced then where were the protests? where was the outrage? the boycott? none of it happened because most were happy for the club to move forward.

and all of this because you cannot admit that the analogy you posted up was a poor one. you carry on twisting yourself in knots instead of just admitting the analogy doesn't hold. Or you can carry on throwing at insults at anyone who disagrees with you. Take your pick.

i'm fairly confident that when i turn on the news tonight, or read the news online, nobody will be comparing Trumps plan for Gaza to West Ham moving to the olympic stadium.

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 12:25

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 11:13

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 11:02

Nobody was forced to move - jeez how can you say that. Oh yes I forgot for those that didn't want to move you can still go down to Upton Park to watch us at the Boleyn! When you say "We" you mean Gold, Sullivan and Brady - no supporters actively sort the move to the Bowl we wanted to stay where we were, some were resigned and clearly you were looking forward to it as I'm sure some others were liking the idea of a shiny new stadium.

Oh so you wanted the move yeah... great good for you! I know a lot of people who were dead against it. I think Soldo said he'd never go to another home match and I know others who have said the same. You know real fans of the the club and its history! Others though dead against it but still attend because we love West Ham wherever they play but it doesn't mean we were happy about it!

Poor analogy - clutching at straws yeah carry on mate thats the only phrase you've proved you do understand!!! 

Talk about re-writing history.
There were no protests about moving, nobody was forced to buy a season ticket at the new stadium. The club (as a whole inc the fans) chose to move. They actually did a survey and people wanted to move.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/22525290

"West Ham's relocation from Upton Park to the Olympic Stadium in Stratford has been backed by 85% of fans in a poll of supporters.Nearly 12,000 Hammers fans took part in the survey conducted by independent pollsters SMG YouGov.

nobody was forced.

 

Those that supported the move did not actively pursue a move, that was the Club not the supporters - you're rewriting both what you said and history too! That poll was done once the decision had already been made the decision wasn't based on the Poll. Even Sullivan himself said that half of the supporters probably don't want to move. The poll was always going to be worded to bend the result as all polls issued by the Club.Nearly nine out of 10 match-going West Ham United supporters oppose the club’s proposed move to the Olympic Stadium according to a supporters’ group. WHU’S VIEW? polled 2,431 fans before the club’s April home games against Birmingham City, Brighton and Hove Albion, and Hull City.The poll asked: “Based on all available information do you agree with West Ham United’s proposed move to the Olympic Stadium?” 13.4% said ‘Yes’, while 86.6% said ‘No’. The results have been sent to the London Legacy Development Corporation, Mayor’s Office, FA, DCMS, and West Ham.

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 11:13

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 11:02

goose wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 09:34

nobody was forced to move. we actively sought out the move and wanted it to happen.
remember all those protests during the last season at upton park? no me neither.

the only parallel in your 'analogy' is moving location. which makes it such a poor analogy. carry on clutching at those straws though.

Nobody was forced to move - jeez how can you say that. Oh yes I forgot for those that didn't want to move you can still go down to Upton Park to watch us at the Boleyn! When you say "We" you mean Gold, Sullivan and Brady - no supporters actively sort the move to the Bowl we wanted to stay where we were, some were resigned and clearly you were looking forward to it as I'm sure some others were liking the idea of a shiny new stadium.

Oh so you wanted the move yeah... great good for you! I know a lot of people who were dead against it. I think Soldo said he'd never go to another home match and I know others who have said the same. You know real fans of the the club and its history! Others though dead against it but still attend because we love West Ham wherever they play but it doesn't mean we were happy about it!

Poor analogy - clutching at straws yeah carry on mate thats the only phrase you've proved you do understand!!! 

Talk about re-writing history.
There were no protests about moving, nobody was forced to buy a season ticket at the new stadium. The club (as a whole inc the fans) chose to move. They actually did a survey and people wanted to move.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/22525290

"West Ham's relocation from Upton Park to the Olympic Stadium in Stratford has been backed by 85% of fans in a poll of supporters.Nearly 12,000 Hammers fans took part in the survey conducted by independent pollsters SMG YouGov.

nobody was forced.

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 00:38

It’s not a theory it’s a fact. There is proof  of censorship  over Hunter Biden’s laptop, and Covid on social media. Politico have this week been proven to be funded by USAID and since the clamp down haven’t been able to pay their staff.