The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

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With the drift of MPs from the conservatives to Reform we can see that many of those individuals were from the nasty wing of their party. In essence these leavers are helping sanitise Badenoch’s Tory remainers whilst at the same time ensuring that Reform retains its basic nastiness level.

There is now a problem brewing within Reform whereby candidates who stood for them in the last election, and run lots of close calls, are being pushed aside by Farage so that twerps like Rosindell stand. Romford constituency is a case in point where the conservatives are enraged about Rosindell’s defection and the Reformers want to retain their candidate who they canvassed for and nearly won with last time out.

What this undoubtedly shows is that Farage is no different to any other politician in the way he treats people within his party. And incidentally looking at the calibre of these defectors it’s as if Reform were a PL team it is taking the worst, not the best, players from a relegated team.

[Far Cough UKunt]

If Reform is going to turn into Tory Lite, what's the fucking point?

[Takashi Miike]

Reform now has Boris Johnson’s… - chancellor (Zahawi) - communities sec (Jenrick) - culture sec (Dorries) - attorney general (Braverman) - political sec (Kruger) - skills minister (Jenkyns) - Northern powerhouse minister (Berry) - health minister (Caulfield) - parliamentary private sec (Nici) - assistant whip (Holloway) - Scottish minister (Offord)
I thought the point of voting Reform was because the two main parties fucked up and we need to try something new?

 

 

correct, a collective of cunts. led by a tory loving snake oil salesman called nigel. politics, and the state of the self serving pigs in suits, is at an all time low
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[only1billybonds]

ED.

Yea,its a shame the 'big hitters' on the center right couldn't settle their differences and work together to make changes that really matter.
Again,have to agree with you re Rupert Lowe.
In an ideal world, he'd run the show,he has the right blend of common sense and ruthlesness to really make a difference.

[Eerie Decent]

Agreed Bill. If I had my way, I'd have Advance UK in, but it's not going to happen. I'm not expecting miracles from Reform, but at the very least some common sense ideas to running the country. Supporting businesses, working people, clearing out the hotels (£53 BILLION a year on security alone FFS) and scrapping Net Zero.

That would be a start.

[only1billybonds]

Its been said before but its worth saying again. 
The BLOB will see to it that whatever policies Reform try to implement, the civil service will find a way of stalling/ignoring them. Any real change will only happen if a sledgehammer approach is taken and a massive clearout takes place.

[Mike Oxsaw]

It’s a fine line Reform need to walk here. They’ve very little experience of running a government so will need to bring in people with experience and knowledge. However, bring in too many and risk looking like the Conservative Party V2.

I agree.

I've said many times that I feel it's an election too soon for them to take power. I still feel this even if they bring in people with experience of governing (albeit very badly) the country.

They still need to be getting their undercurrent of direction out to the people/voters and acting on any feedback; they need to be seen as the party that listens because all (ALL) previous governments have demonstrated that they're weapons-grade past-masters at ignoring what the public want and giving what they need the public to want (to keep themselves in power).

[goose]

It’s a fine line Reform need to walk here. They’ve very little experience of running a government so will need to bring in people with experience and knowledge. However, bring in too many and risk looking like the Conservative Party V2.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Reform now has Boris Johnson’s… - chancellor (Zahawi) - communities sec (Jenrick) - culture sec (Dorries) - attorney general (Braverman) - political sec (Kruger) - skills minister (Jenkyns) - Northern powerhouse minister (Berry) - health minister (Caulfield) - parliamentary private sec (Nici) - assistant whip (Holloway) - Scottish minister (Offord)
I thought the point of voting Reform was because the two main parties fucked up and we need to try something new?

Depends on whether or not these imports/political immigrants can work within the Reform framework and (political) aims.

I don't thing the general public actually has access to such framework or policies/aims yet, just media speculation on them; speculation from the media that is still spitting feathers about the Brexit outcome.

You can almost taste the fear the traditional party voters have for Reform though, the irony being that it is entirely their fuckeries that brought Reform (or UKIP as it once was) into being in the first place.

[One Sunny Day]

Reform now has Boris Johnson’s… - chancellor (Zahawi) - communities sec (Jenrick) - culture sec (Dorries) - attorney general (Braverman) - political sec (Kruger) - skills minister (Jenkyns) - Northern powerhouse minister (Berry) - health minister (Caulfield) - parliamentary private sec (Nici) - assistant whip (Holloway) - Scottish minister (Offord)
I thought the point of voting Reform was because the two main parties fucked up and we need to try something new?

[Mike Oxsaw]

Fucking hell it stinks of cat piss in here.


 

Yeah. It will be all those insecure people desperate to prove to a bunch of other people they don't actually know they're not wrong - about anything.

[Nutsin]

Fucking hell it stinks of cat piss in here.

 

[Mike Oxsaw]

Farage is a Nazi & Tice lives under Sharia law by choice 
As poor as Starmer has been being not a Nazi puts him ahead 
Streeting I understand lives in England so I put him ahead of Tice
As for Truss I think any government minister who has died recently or sustained a brain injury has her covered
 

..." Tice lives under Sharia law by choice"...

What does it matter which law you live under, so long as you respect it and don't (plan to) break it?


Now.The interpretation and implementation of that law at any given time by any dominant subset of the society that has (made) those laws is a different thing.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

Seven kids?
Her minge probably resembles a trawlerman’s welly, so it’s a no from me.

[Takashi Miike]

after seven kids, you'd have to be hung like a shire horse to touch the sides.

that and the desperate dan lantern jaw, it's a big NO for me.

[F 129 Row66]

Serious political question re Reform's mayoral candidate for London.. Leila Cunningham, Would you?

[Massive Attack]

Salt of the earth and one of us, is old 2 Jags. How is Pauline's Barnet these days..

[THUNDERCLINT]

I liked Prescott... proper politician.

A lot of them were back then, likeable or not I could name many politicians pre 2000s with three words to describe them all, try doing that now with anyone outside the main party leaders 

Weak, woke, wankers.

There you go, just done 95% of the commons.

[Hammer I am]

I liked Prescott... proper politician.

A lot of them were back then, likeable or not I could name many politicians pre 2000s with three words to describe them all, try doing that now with anyone outside the main party leaders 

[OK_Guy]

I liked Prescott... proper politician.

[THUNDERCLINT]

=12.35px"Take John Prescott, John like Nigel was charismatic and people generally liked him so he got away with lamping a member of the public."

That member of the public deserved to get lamped. 

 

 

He did but that's neither here nor there, holding the position he did at the time he should have eaten a copious amount of shit for it.

[Massive Attack]

=12.35px"Take John Prescott, John like Nigel was charismatic and people generally liked him so he got away with lamping a member of the public."

That member of the public deserved to get lamped. 

Just for that mullet alone!

[Nurse Ratched]

=12.35px"Take John Prescott, John like Nigel was charismatic and people generally liked him so he got away with lamping a member of the public."

That member of the public deserved to get lamped. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

I am slightly bemused about the acceptance of Nigel as an 18yo (and probably older… what if anything changed his mind?)
I can imagine if Starmer was accused of the same it wouldn’t be accepted so calmly
Reminds me a bit of Trump supporters
As Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose a vote
Doing it in Minnesota now for real

 

 

It's not very complicated at all so I understand why you don't get it.

Some people have a skill or a persoal characteristic which makes them useful or liked and admired which means indiscretions are forgiven.

Othe people are just cunts and get treated accordingly.

Take John Prescott, John like Nigel was charismatic and people generally liked him so he got away with lamping a member of the public.

Mike Amesbury, like Starmer, is a rotten festering pus filled cսnt so when he lamped a member of the public he got porridge.

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

 

Crowborough has a Tory MP - Nus Ghani.

 

 

This is correct.

It's actually the Green Party's Deputy Leader Rachel Millward who objects to migrants being housed in her area.