Nuno Out

[northbankfrank]

2,500 posts by the end of the season?

[goose]

they're not gonna sack him.
i doubt they will really back him in january, some shit will be brought in on the cheap and surprise surpise they will be shit.

this has been going on for some time now and its down to the ownership. you can see the steady decline from the tail end of Moyes, into Lopetegui, then Potter and now Nuno. If nothing changes we will be in the same position next year (if we somehow stay up).

[Sir Alf]

Who will be manager number 6 in 18 months? And will he be making changes to the starting 11  with the squad we have to change outcomes or is it mostly subs and timing of subs that fans think Nuno should be sacked for?

Or is it the low block tactics? Or do we think we could play “front foot” football with overloads and bombing forward without conceding boatloads? 

I think he messed up early in the Brenford and Leeds games but imo the squad constraints have limited us more than anything gettimg results. We have lost to Liverpool, Villa and Arsenal since he brought in Magassa and Potts and started giving Wilson minutes.  He repaired the set piece issues to a large extent. Compared to the previous 3 managers ( low bar admittedly ) he has made progress.  It comes down to results against the middle and lower teams which we are about to see.  I might be wrong ( often am ) but I dont see who Sullivan will get in that will be any better for the predicament we are in andcSullivan created?

[Massive Attack]

There could even be an argument for sacking him straight after the City game if they decide to really turn it on tearing us a new one. The situation could be untenable which would then leave us a full week before taking on the next 2 fixtures at Home.  

The problem we've now got is the gap that's appearing between us and Leeds and should they also likely win at Home on the same day, it's going to look dire. That would potentially be 6 points clear with a goal difference already widening as well. 

[El Scorchio]

Leeds have Palace next (Saturday ) after they play on Thursday with Palace lsoing 2 players to Afcon.
Nuno is to blame for all this,he's had time to see who is good at the club but hasn't played them. 
Instead his love in with Paqueta isn't working,his love in with terrible subs and tactics will send us down.


 

No he isn't- Sullivan is. 

[El Scorchio]

Putting it bluntly now, he's got 5 matches to save his job. And the last 2 fixtures are against both his former employers with Forest ironically being the last of them.

City
Fulham
Brighton 
Wolves
Forest

Get these points sooner rather than later as it won't get easier. 7 points with 2 wins at an absolute bare minimum.

 

 

He's not getting fired even if we are certs to go down. I don't think there's anyone who is an improvement that can or more importantly WILL realistically come in at this stage.

Bloke needs help from the owner. I'm not surprised he's reticent to make subs and when they come they are the way they are, because what we have to choose from off the bench is absolutely fucking dire. And just my opinion but before they scored the third, I felt we were looking the stronger and more likely team. The trouble is ALL our subs, whatever choice we make, weaken the team with the exception of Wilson, if he's on the bench and not already on the pitch. Almost whatever choice we make doesn't allow us a change in tactics other than to add another defender or central midfielders even if an attacker needs to come off. Most other teams have no drop off or an actual improvement/flexibility from the bench because they have more than eight or nine bona fide premier league quality players in their squads.

[BoleynGone]

Leeds have Palace next (Saturday ) after they play on Thursday with Palace lsoing 2 players to Afcon.
Nuno is to blame for all this,he's had time to see who is good at the club but hasn't played them. 
Instead his love in with Paqueta isn't working,his love in with terrible subs and tactics will send us down.

 

[Far Cough UKunt]

I'm starting to get the hump with Nuno now, his fucking subs are what Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles would make if they were in charge.

[Massive Attack]

Southbank made a good point earlier regarding the transfer window soon approaching. Because of Nuno's lack of urgency getting points on the board and approach to games, it will now effect what we do in the Jan window as the better players will not be interested in joining. So he's going to struggle to convince good enough player's to join with us right in the shit in the bottom 3. It would take some serious dough to convince half decent players signing in our current predicament with Man City next. 

Yep - if we’re in touch with the sides who are 17th and 16th etc, then we’re in the mix and players will want to join in January.

But if we’re six points or more below the 17th placed side, we’re in serious shit and it will limit our options. Decent potential signings won’t join a side that’s adrift, and even possible loans will be wary (if their side seek obligations etc.).

We need points. Fast. Next up is Man City away..!

I said all along that the January transfer window will be crucial to this season and our chances for survival.

I don't think so. I think that what we have will mostly be relied upon to dig us out. I reckon we'll struggle to get anyone decent in the window now.

[Massive Attack]

Putting it bluntly now, he's got 5 matches to save his job. And the last 2 fixtures are against both his former employers with Forest ironically being the last of them.

City
Fulham
Brighton 
Wolves
Forest

Get these points sooner rather than later as it won't get easier. 7 points with 2 wins at an absolute bare minimum.

[Come On You Irons]

Southbank made a good point earlier regarding the transfer window soon approaching. Because of Nuno's lack of urgency getting points on the board and approach to games, it will now effect what we do in the Jan window as the better players will not be interested in joining. So he's going to struggle to convince good enough player's to join with us right in the shit in the bottom 3. It would take some serious dough to convince half decent players signing in our current predicament with Man City next. 

Yep - if we’re in touch with the sides who are 17th and 16th etc, then we’re in the mix and players will want to join in January.

But if we’re six points or more below the 17th placed side, we’re in serious shit and it will limit our options. Decent potential signings won’t join a side that’s adrift, and even possible loans will be wary (if their side seek obligations etc.).

We need points. Fast. Next up is Man City away..!

I said all along that the January transfer window will be crucial to this season and our chances for survival.

[southbankbornnbred]

Southbank made a good point earlier regarding the transfer window soon approaching. Because of Nuno's lack of urgency getting points on the board and approach to games, it will now effect what we do in the Jan window as the better players will not be interested in joining. So he's going to struggle to convince good enough player's to join with us right in the shit in the bottom 3. It would take some serious dough to convince half decent players signing in our current predicament with Man City next. 

Yep - if we’re in touch with the sides who are 17th and 16th etc, then we’re in the mix and players will want to join in January.

But if we’re six points or more below the 17th placed side, we’re in serious shit and it will limit our options. Decent potential signings won’t join a side that’s adrift, and even possible loans will be wary (if their side seek obligations etc.).

We need points. Fast. Next up is Man City away..!

[Mad Ferret]

Get rid and get Xabi Alonso or Thomas Frank.

[Come On You Irons]

18% win ratio. Now officially our worst manager ever and worse than Grant.

The bloke should be sacked.

[Massive Attack]

Southbank made a good point earlier regarding the transfer window soon approaching. Because of Nuno's lack of urgency getting points on the board and approach to games, it will now effect what we do in the Jan window as the better players will not be interested in joining. So he's going to struggle to convince good enough player's to join with us right in the shit in the bottom 3. It would take some serious dough to convince half decent players signing in our current predicament with Man City next. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

Did you 2 go to the game? Of course not. This isn’t on Nuno, the second goal is down to Paqueta and the 3rd we backed off but it was a class finish. We just need a focal point in attack.

Spurs did well

Why the fuck do you keep asking people if they went to the game and mentioning you did in every post like it gives your opinion more validity, especially when you normally don't go and tell others that do that your opinion is better then theirs when you're not there... Can you see the hypocrisy... You dopey thick cսnt 

Because the driedel spinning mincer thinks it fools people into thinking he's really one of us.

[Massive Attack]

If i was in his position and we do get relegated, i wouldnt be beating myself up over it.
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Then that would say everything if it didn't bother him and not beat himself over getting us relegated. He should feel equally to blame should that happen, just as it did when Grant took us down. 2 wins (1 convincing) in 11 is a shocking return considering how early in the season it's still been and the run of winnable fixtures he's had consisting of. Even Liverpool and Man Utd are nowhere like the Teams they once were.

[southbankbornnbred]

Ultimately, we’re just not a good side or squad. And that’s down to the owners, late-era Moyes, Lopetegui, Potter and now (coaching-wise) Nuno.

We’ve just been a poorly run club for too long and it’s catching up with us.

We fight on, of course. But, ultimately, if this side and ownership are relegated I don’t think I’ll be that surprised or pissed off. With the exception of Bowen and the kids who came through the ranks, I can’t say I feel any connection with this squad. Most of them are poor (yet very rich) mercenaries and it has been a while since we had a manager I liked.

Maybe a season or two in the Championship clears the dead wood and is the giant kick up the arsehole that this club clearly needs.

[honky cat]

Hes doing ok, i dont want to change the manager. I think he has got the new summer signings performing.well.

i think he cares and not just here for money, but at the same time he must think to himself that he can only do so much with what he has available, none of it was his choosing. If i was in his position and we do get relegated, i wouldnt be beating myself up over it.
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[fraser]

 

I think he cares a hell of a lot more about the money he's tried to rinse off us by pushing for a longer contract and making the Club beg for his services. Since then I think he's been coasting with little urgency to turn things around. The proof? The alarm bells that rang off when he dicked about with wacky selections and tactics during very winnable games against the likes of the 2 Teams currently facing one another. Others are entitled to think he's all that fussed but I remain unconvinced. 

I disagree, but he definitely deserves criticism but not for today other than the bizarre late subs. But for the 4 points dropped away and the potential 2 at Old Trafford.. Which I keep reading are good points, which they are in isolation but not when they become a trend and not when we can't win at home. But today we were OK to good against a very good team. 

I remember hearing that - a lot - during the season when Roeder relegated us. “We were OK to good against a good side …just unlucky…again.”

Ultimately, it’s results that count. Villa played away in Europe on Thursday and were 1-0 down after 30 seconds today. There’s no way they should walk off with three points from that position. But we let them.

Yeah maybe, but they've won every game after their European ones... I thought we were OK today and maybe with a bit of confidence brought forward from the games we should have won and been braver in we would have been today, but yeah that's down to him.. 

[southbankbornnbred]

I don't mind you Massive son, you talk a lot of sense but you only have to have seen how angry he was last week to see he cares, you're talking bollocks in this case. 

 

I think he cares a hell of a lot more about the money he's tried to rinse off us by pushing for a longer contract and making the Club beg for his services. Since then I think he's been coasting with little urgency to turn things around. The proof? The alarm bells that rang off when he dicked about with wacky selections and tactics during very winnable games against the likes of the 2 Teams currently facing one another. Others are entitled to think he's all that fussed but I remain unconvinced. 

I disagree, but he definitely deserves criticism but not for today other than the bizarre late subs. But for the 4 points dropped away and the potential 2 at Old Trafford.. Which I keep reading are good points, which they are in isolation but not when they become a trend and not when we can't win at home. But today we were OK to good against a very good team. 

I remember hearing that - a lot - during the season when Roeder relegated us. “We were OK to good against a good side …just unlucky…again.”

Ultimately, it’s results that count. Villa played away in Europe on Thursday and were 1-0 down after 30 seconds today. There’s no way they should walk off with three points from that position. But we let them.

[southbankbornnbred]

Realistically, we’re not going to sack Nuno this season.

Once appointed, he was always going to get January’s transfer window to try to cut some deals and unpick the shit he inherited from arguably our worst ever manager (contender with Grant and Roeder).

Nuno hasn’t done well. I’ve never been a fan of his. But the squad he inherited was relegation fodder. He’s improved them slightly and, rightly, picked some of the kids. To ditch him before the summer would be nuts - any new manager would have all the teething issues he’s faced and no time to plan a transfer window.

I’m just not sure how much room for manoeuvre we have. Some of these massively underperforming players (Paqueta, Kilman, Fullkrug (when fit) etc - it’s a long list) have to start putting in far better performances. Too many have been very poor for a long time.

[Massive Attack]

His treatment and handling of our main decent Striker is a piss take since arriving. Fancy chucking him on as an after thought near the end of the game with 9 minutes left chasing the game. He didn't even want to play him at all in the first 3 games in charge against Everton, Arsenal and Brentford. Clown management of him alone.

[fraser]

I was highly suspicious at the time of him coming in whether he was really motivated by the job or a lot more interested in the mega payday he'd get regardless of how he got on. I don't think he'd be all that fussed if he was sacked tomorrow just in time before Christmas. Postecoglu at Forest all over again.

I don't mind you Massive son, you talk a lot of sense but you only have to have seen how angry he was last week to see he cares, you're talking bollocks in this case. 

 

I think he cares a hell of a lot more about the money he's tried to rinse off us by pushing for a longer contract and making the Club beg for his services. Since then I think he's been coasting with little urgency to turn things around. The proof? The alarm bells that rang off when he dicked about with wacky selections and tactics during very winnable games against the likes of the 2 Teams currently facing one another. Others are entitled to think he's all that fussed but I remain unconvinced. 

I disagree, but he definitely deserves criticism but not for today other than the bizarre late subs. But for the 4 points dropped away and the potential 2 at Old Trafford.. Which I keep reading are good points, which they are in isolation but not when they become a trend and not when we can't win at home. But today we were OK to good against a very good team. 

[southbankbornnbred]

We play Man City away next - where we will get rolled over.

After that, we’ve got Fulham and then Brighton at home before the transfer window opens. It’s getting to the stage where we might need to win both of those home games. What are our chances?

If we’re cut adrift at the start of January, the quality of player who will want to join - even on loan - will be lower.

 

[Massive Attack]

I was highly suspicious at the time of him coming in whether he was really motivated by the job or a lot more interested in the mega payday he'd get regardless of how he got on. I don't think he'd be all that fussed if he was sacked tomorrow just in time before Christmas. Postecoglu at Forest all over again.

I don't mind you Massive son, you talk a lot of sense but you only have to have seen how angry he was last week to see he cares, you're talking bollocks in this case. 

 

 

I think he cares a hell of a lot more about the money he's tried to rinse off us by pushing for a longer contract and making the Club beg for his services. Since then I think he's been coasting with little urgency to turn things around. The proof? The alarm bells that rang off when he dicked about with wacky selections and tactics during very winnable games against the likes of the 2 Teams currently facing one another. Others are entitled to think he's all that fussed but I remain unconvinced.