NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[zebthecat]

Watching last night game. Miami issue ain’t going forward. It was the secondary. Some of us could have run Pittsburgh points in. But it’s that time of the season. If you ain’t got any skin in the game. You are sure as shit. Ain’t putting the rest of your body on the line.!

GO G MEN.

It has been like this for a while.
When Storm Duck (bless him) is a massive miss when injured then your team is in trouble.

[RBshorty]

Watching last night game. Miami issue ain’t going forward. It was the secondary. Some of us could have run Pittsburgh points in. But it’s that time of the season. If you ain’t got any skin in the game. You are sure as shit. Ain’t putting the rest of your body on the line.!

GO G MEN.

[zebthecat]

The really annoying thing about Tua is that he can be good.
He just has a habit of throwing the ball straight to defensive backs for inexplicable reasons and then faliing to bits afterwards. This happens far too often,

[southbankbornnbred]

You could be talking about Kilman, the fucking donkey. 

Ag ag ag!

[Far Cough UKunt]

You could be talking about Kilman, the fucking donkey. 

[southbankbornnbred]

him (TUA), and handing such a poor player the contract he was given is yet more bewildering mismanagement/potential corruption. $40m per year guaranteed for an absolute fucking carthorse 

He is terrible. Long may he reign in Miami!

[southbankbornnbred]

Also, on the point about betting, while it's definitely a possibility you can't rule out in the modern world, there would have to have been heavy collusion by a lot of senior staff - making it less likely in those particular circumstances.

For that to have been a betting ruse, the HC, OC and QB would most likely all have to be in on it. Or one of them would be asking why the feck they're not playing quicker.

[Takashi Miike]

him (TUA), and handing such a poor player the contract he was given is yet more bewildering mismanagement/potential corruption. $40m per year guaranteed for an absolute fucking carthorse 

[southbankbornnbred]

Not ideal, but hardly "unacceptable". The Fish were well beaten by that point. Maybe they realised that by slowing down their play, they could be more effective and learn how to move the ball in future. Perhaps slowing the Steelers down made them less effective, too. Playing fast is no guarantee of completing passes - especially with that QB!

If they had slowed their game down and been less effective, or just as ineffective, then I'd get the criticism.

They played a normal-ish game in the first half - and were stuffed. Looks to me like the coach told the team to take a breath before each play and actually think about what they're doing. They certainly played better slower.

I think it's just the general lack of urgency, and not giving a shit that the blokes talking about. You could throw the same label at successive West Ham managers that let the opposition have the ball. When there's betting involved, and there's been proven cases recently in sports of spot fixing, they'll always be people questioning passages of play when it doesn't look right. That Mcdaniels cսnt must be shagging the owner, why else is he still employed?

Sure - but they're also just not a very good team. I'm not sure that Tu(N)a playing a hurry-up offense is going to help them much. He'd panic and throw picks. It's what the Fish do.

[Takashi Miike]

Not ideal, but hardly "unacceptable". The Fish were well beaten by that point. Maybe they realised that by slowing down their play, they could be more effective and learn how to move the ball in future. Perhaps slowing the Steelers down made them less effective, too. Playing fast is no guarantee of completing passes - especially with that QB!

If they had slowed their game down and been less effective, or just as ineffective, then I'd get the criticism.

They played a normal-ish game in the first half - and were stuffed. Looks to me like the coach told the team to take a breath before each play and actually think about what they're doing. They certainly played better slower.

I think it's just the general lack of urgency, and not giving a shit that the blokes talking about. You could throw the same label at successive West Ham managers that let the opposition have the ball. When there's betting involved, and there's been proven cases recently in sports of spot fixing, they'll always be people questioning passages of play when it doesn't look right. That Mcdaniels cսnt must be shagging the owner, why else is he still employed?

[southbankbornnbred]

Not ideal, but hardly "unacceptable". The Fish were well beaten by that point. Maybe they realised that by slowing down their play, they could be more effective and learn how to move the ball in future. Perhaps slowing the Steelers down made them less effective, too. Playing fast is no guarantee of completing passes - especially with that QB!

If they had slowed their game down and been less effective, or just as ineffective, then I'd get the criticism.

They played a normal-ish game in the first half - and were stuffed. Looks to me like the coach told the team to take a breath before each play and actually think about what they're doing. They certainly played better slower.

[Takashi Miike]

[southbankbornnbred]

Fernando Mendoza picks up the Heisman. And the Talkin Heads are already predicting The Jets are trading up for him next Spring. Looks like Big Blue getting a Few Good Picks.?

GO G MEN

The Jets' draft options might have just got smaller. Lots of rumours now that Dante Moore, Oregon's excellent QB who looked likely to go as the #2 QB in next year's draft (behind Medoza) may stay in college next season. He's young, and has only had one season as a starter. So it makes sense. But the kid looks good - a Jayden Daniels/Steve McNair type playcaller.

If Moore declares for the coming draft, the Jets should think about NOT spending all their draft stock on Mendoza (who does look very good) - and maybe spending less to get the #2 or #3 pick (which we might end up with anyway).

But the biggest Q of all is whether the Jets will have a QB coach and OC worth joining. We have ruined too many good prospects by not investing in decent coaches and support.

[Takashi Miike]

[RBshorty]

Fernando Mendoza picks up the Heisman. And the Talkin Heads are already predicting The Jets are trading up for him next Spring. Looks like Big Blue getting a Few Good Picks.?

GO G MEN

[southbankbornnbred]

Jets sacked DC Steve Wilks this morning, after that abysmal effort yesterday.

Wilks had to go. He is a terrible DC and his unit was getting a lot worse, not better, as the season went on. He would probably point to losing Williams and Sauce - probably our two best defensive players - on trade deadline day, and he'd have a good point. But he was struggling long before that.

Which brings us to Aaron Glenn. I really want to like the bloke. Jets playing star, knows the club and knows its fans. But it is not working out for him right now. His team has shown no improvement - on any side of the ball - at all this season. His playbooks are poor, his team is visibly poorly coached.

Glenn has sacked Wilks because he thinks it might save his own job. And maybe it will - he's a rookie HC, after all. But, in my view, he has to show "something" over the final three weeks of the season, so that he can point to how things might improve. Right now, he's got nothing in the "pros" column, other than his history as a Jet.

I've got to question the front office firing anyone when they were trying give away the family silver before the trade deadline. I'm not saying the coaches have done a good job, but what can you do when the suits would rather gamble on finding no guarantee future stars when you already had a few in the locker room. the owner, gm, every fucking suit needs to go

I agree about the owner and the general shitshow. Mougey and Glenn have not covered themselves in glory this season. In fact, we're worse off now than 12 months ago - at least Saleh had a clue about one side of the ball. But that brings me to Wilks. He was god awful, TM. Absolutely no idea what he was doing - and that's when he had Williams and Sauce: two excellent defensive players. Trading both just made Wilks' exit inevitable.

Agree with you entirely about draft picks being unproven talent - especially at a franchise that can't coach them properly. We are in the same deep shit we were in this time last year. If anything, we're worse. It's unlikely that anything will change while Johnson remains as owner.

[Far Cough UKunt]

The Vikings mini revival continues with a 34-26 win against the Cow Ladies

[Takashi Miike]

Jets sacked DC Steve Wilks this morning, after that abysmal effort yesterday.

Wilks had to go. He is a terrible DC and his unit was getting a lot worse, not better, as the season went on. He would probably point to losing Williams and Sauce - probably our two best defensive players - on trade deadline day, and he'd have a good point. But he was struggling long before that.

Which brings us to Aaron Glenn. I really want to like the bloke. Jets playing star, knows the club and knows its fans. But it is not working out for him right now. His team has shown no improvement - on any side of the ball - at all this season. His playbooks are poor, his team is visibly poorly coached.

Glenn has sacked Wilks because he thinks it might save his own job. And maybe it will - he's a rookie HC, after all. But, in my view, he has to show "something" over the final three weeks of the season, so that he can point to how things might improve. Right now, he's got nothing in the "pros" column, other than his history as a Jet.

I've got to question the front office firing anyone when they were trying give away the family silver before the trade deadline. I'm not saying the coaches have done a good job, but what can you do when the suits would rather gamble on finding no guarantee future stars when you already had a few in the locker room. the owner, gm, every fucking suit needs to go

[southbankbornnbred]

Jets sacked DC Steve Wilks this morning, after that abysmal effort yesterday.

Wilks had to go. He is a terrible DC and his unit was getting a lot worse, not better, as the season went on. He would probably point to losing Williams and Sauce - probably our two best defensive players - on trade deadline day, and he'd have a good point. But he was struggling long before that.

Which brings us to Aaron Glenn. I really want to like the bloke. Jets playing star, knows the club and knows its fans. But it is not working out for him right now. His team has shown no improvement - on any side of the ball - at all this season. His playbooks are poor, his team is visibly poorly coached.

Glenn has sacked Wilks because he thinks it might save his own job. And maybe it will - he's a rookie HC, after all. But, in my view, he has to show "something" over the final three weeks of the season, so that he can point to how things might improve. Right now, he's got nothing in the "pros" column, other than his history as a Jet.

[southbankbornnbred]

There’s also talk of a big Jets trade for Joe Burrow from the Bungles.

It looks like 2026 will be another Jets QB year. But they need the right coaching staff for whoever comes in.

[southbankbornnbred]

With the Chief’s not getting in their way. It’s make or break for the Bills this year.? As for the Jets. Best team in Jersey. And more than happy to hand over a boatload of them Draft picks to their grateful City rival. For that 1st overall pick.? 

GO G MEN.


 

If the Giants hold the #1 pick in next year’s draft, it’ll get interesting. You won’t take a QB, unless you absolutely decide that Mendoza is a nailed on generational talent (rather than just a v.good QB). And then the bidding starts.

In theory, the Jets can “spend” the most in terms of draft picks. But if I were Mendoza, Moore or Simpson (the three big QBs next year), I’d want to be sure that the Jets have a high-class QB coach to help me develop. They’ll have seen how the Jets failed to help Sanchez, Smith, Darnold and Wilson.

Could see Mendoza doing an Elway (with the Colts) and refusing to join the Jets - for his own sake!

Jets need to be in a position to help a QB. Not sure Mougey, Glenn and London are that.

If the Raiders hold the #1 pick, they’ll take Mendoza. So we can “just” trade up for Moore or Simpson.

[southbankbornnbred]

With the Chief’s not getting in their way. It’s make or break for the Bills this year.? As for the Jets. Best team in Jersey. And more than happy to hand over a boatload of them Draft picks to their grateful City rival. For that 1st overall pick.? 

GO G MEN.

 

If the Giants hold the #1 pick in next year’s draft, it’ll get interesting. You won’t take a QB, unless you absolutely decide that Mendoza is a nailed on generational talent (rather than just a v.good QB). And then the bidding starts.

In theory, the Jets can “spend” the most in terms of draft picks. But if I were Mendoza, Moore or Simpson (the three big QBs next year), I’d want to be sure that the Jets have a high-class QB coach to help me develop. They’ll have seen how the Jets failed to help Sanchez, Smith, Darnold and Wilson.

Could see Mendoza doing an Elway (with the Colts) and refusing to join the Jets - for his own sake!

Jets need to be in a position to help a QB. Not sure Mougey, Glenn and London are that.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

My weekend has been 'one of those'.
Fuck me.. Pats imploded to top it off .

[RBshorty]

With the Chief’s not getting in their way. It’s make or break for the Bills this year.? As for the Jets. Best team in Jersey. And more than happy to hand over a boatload of them Draft picks to their grateful City rival. For that 1st overall pick.? 

GO G MEN.
 

[southbankbornnbred]

After giving up another 48 points in yet another humiliating stuffing today, I’m leaning towards axing Glenn (HC) and Wilks (DC) and replacing the HC with a grizzled, grey haired offensive mind like Mike McCarthy in the off-season.

The Jets need some (winning) experience at decision-making level. There is just no knowledge of what a winning franchise looks like inside the current Jets. Woody is an utterly clueless owner, Mougey is a rookie GM, and Glenn a rookie HC. The DC, Wilks, should never have got his job: he’s a joke.

They need some grey hairs inside the coaching room, but on heads that have won things - been there, done that.

Plus, next season we will once again have to spend big (in the draft) on a young QB. Glenn, Mougey and their team have no idea what an NFL QB looks like. The current QB coach in New York (Charles London) had never coached a quarterback until 2022. He’s woeful.

McCarthy has worked with, and developed, an amazing array of QB talent: Rodgers, Favre, Gannon etc. He even got a tune out of Dak Prescott in Dallas. He gives a chance at picking a good QB who he can then develop.

Having watched Glenn this season, I’m really not sure I’d trust him and Mougey (the architect of giving away Williams and Sauce) with oversight of drafting a QB. Especially as they may have to come up the draft board to do it. They’ve already overspent on $40m for a two-year deal for Justin Fields - who is utterly dire.

Unless he shows something in the last couple of games, I think Glenn should be one and done in Gotham. It has been a terrible, chaotic season. And we are no better off for it in any area of the team.