New UK rules for Expats who are Dual Citizens

[Sydney_Iron]

This is fucking madness

Thought i would post as a few expats on here, expect in the same boat as me!

The UK Government is introducing rules saying anyone Born in the UK who now lives overseas and has taken dual citizenship and passport of that country, can ONLY travel to the UK if they have a British passport! 

British and Irish dual citizens bear costly brunt of UK passport changes - ABC News

My UK passport expired in 2009 and as i had an Australian passport as well couldn't see the point in paying for 2, living this side of the world the Australian makes things easier, going to NZ and other regional countries visa free etc, but now if i want to come to the UK i need get a British passport again but as it expired so long ago the steps i need to take are fucking insane.

Be easier to go to France and get a Dinghy across the channel, may even get free hotel accommodation as well 

[fraser]

I decided the possession of a British passport was more advantageous given my life
I played by the rules and have no regrets
Having and paying for two passports is not needed
Obviously having a British passport in Europe is less advantageous now given the Brexit imbeciles 

I don’t really describe myself as English or Australian
As I grew up in Australia my first sporting exposure was to WA & Australian cricket so am hardly going to switch to the Kiwi controlled bacon & egg tie wearing chinless cunts & the Barmy Army dullards

Yep cause the average Aussie cricket fan is an intellectual not a beer soaked pissed redneck bogan wearing either Jack Daniels, Ford or Holden attire while wearing an empty KFC bucket as a hat. 
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[Fauxstralian]

I decided the possession of a British passport was more advantageous given my life
I played by the rules and have no regrets
Having and paying for two passports is not needed
Obviously having a British passport in Europe is less advantageous now given the Brexit imbeciles 

I don’t really describe myself as English or Australian
As I grew up in Australia my first sporting exposure was to WA & Australian cricket so am hardly going to switch to the Kiwi controlled bacon & egg tie wearing chinless cunts & the Barmy Army dullards

[fraser]

I'm reading about long delays of around 4 hours and potential mass-ag over the summer with this new entry/exit system for non-EU/EEA citizens travelling to Schengen countries. Meant to be in full-effect by April 9.

Anyone on here been caught up in this nonsense yet?

Was also reading about this, even the airlines etc are kicking off about it! you have to answer question, many of which are confusing, provide proof or declare things like where you are staying, have enough money etc, then once done, you then procced to immigration control for a officer to then check the info!!!!!

This part is actually straightforward Sydders, I've seen vids online of the kiosks, it asks you do you have somewhere to stay, do you have enough funds to support your trip, do you have health insurance, do you have a return ticket - you just press yes to all of them and on you go, and of course scan your PP, have your photo taken and fingerprints of your 4 fingers on your right hand. The main purpose of it is to get your biometrics. It's good for 3 years.

Have to do this in May at City Airport hopefully queues won't be too bad then. 

[fraser]

When I was eligible for an Australian passport to go alongside my British one I was told that it meant I shouldn’t renew my British one when that expired
As I was planning to move to London & travel in Europe I decided to just retain that passport 
Friends then told me they ticked the box and renewed the British anyway
I did hear of cases of people who did that were refused re entry into Australia as their passport was technically invalid
Now we have these cases where people need to keep paying for both having let one lapse
Personally I am happy to be in London and travel regularly to Australia. Probably more so when I retire
Am off to Perth next month btw

So for brevity... You decided being British was for you not Aussie..  

[Far Cough UKunt]

Just get yerself a dinghy and steam into Dover, bob's your uncle.

[Manuel]

I'm reading about long delays of around 4 hours and potential mass-ag over the summer with this new entry/exit system for non-EU/EEA citizens travelling to Schengen countries. Meant to be in full-effect by April 9.

Anyone on here been caught up in this nonsense yet?

Was also reading about this, even the airlines etc are kicking off about it! you have to answer question, many of which are confusing, provide proof or declare things like where you are staying, have enough money etc, then once done, you then procced to immigration control for a officer to then check the info!!!!!

This part is actually straightforward Sydders, I've seen vids online of the kiosks, it asks you do you have somewhere to stay, do you have enough funds to support your trip, do you have health insurance, do you have a return ticket - you just press yes to all of them and on you go, and of course scan your PP, have your photo taken and fingerprints of your 4 fingers on your right hand. The main purpose of it is to get your biometrics. It's good for 3 years.

[Sydney_Iron]

I'm reading about long delays of around 4 hours and potential mass-ag over the summer with this new entry/exit system for non-EU/EEA citizens travelling to Schengen countries. Meant to be in full-effect by April 9.

Anyone on here been caught up in this nonsense yet?

Was also reading about this, even the airlines etc are kicking off about it! you have to answer question, many of which are confusing, provide proof or declare things like where you are staying, have enough money etc, then once done, you then procced to immigration control for a officer to then check the info!!!!!

Its only partly implemented from October last year  but in April it will be 100%, so affects non EU citizens, could be carnage by the sounds of things! Hopefully they see sense and water it down or find another way rather than at the airport or train station, you do it within 72 hours online etc as places like NZ do. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/ne ... 17911.html

Europe’s airports and airlines have joined forces to demand that the EU suspend the planned full implementation of the entry-exit system (EES) or risk waiting times for British passengers of four hours or more in summer.

The much-delayed EU digital borders scheme requires “third-country nationals”, including UK passport holders, to provide fingerprints and facial biometrics the first time they cross a Schengen area border.

For subsequent entries and exits, one biometric is sufficient.

The EES began to be rolled out last October. The 29 Schengen member states have progressive targets for the proportion of non-EU citizens screened at the frontiers they operate.

[Sydney_Iron]

Sydney would know surely as he would have done it recently, Sven wouldn't cause he's 100% English  

 

 

My Australian passport shows my place of birth as Ealing, as i had to send my birth certificate, so im in the system as UK born, 

Crazy thing is my expired UK passport has my place of birth as London! yeah yeah, Ealing is a London borough but that hasn't stopped the UK passport office wanting my birth certificate (which says Acton in the borough of Ealing) but had my British passport have said Ealing (or Aussie had London), then i wouldn't need to send my birth certificate. apparently, something to do with documents not matching, Go figure

Still waiting for a replacement birth Cert to arrive got a certified copy but they wont accept that, so the same office i have to apply for passport, send me my replacement certificate, i then send it back to them with application.

And crossing fingers common sense prevails

Quite a few horror story's, more woman than men, who got married, divorced etc so name changes etc etc or kids who arrived on parents passport which operantly a lot did in the 50,s and 60,s and passport office wanting info about the long lost passports of long dead parents, would imagine the passport/document dept of births, deaths and marriages will be swamped.

[Mike Oxsaw]

This has all the hallmarks of the authorities wishing to be seen to be "doing something" to get a handle on immigration rates & numbers.

As usual, they've targeted the soft, easy options that will do nothing to restrict the undesirables streaming into the west - those responsible for committing crime(s) once they're in the system and have free access to society and it's vulnerable.

I assume the same authorities are looking to combat criminal activities at the fundamental level rather than just tick a few lefty/liberal "look at me" boxes.

[Fauxstralian]

When I was eligible for an Australian passport to go alongside my British one I was told that it meant I shouldn’t renew my British one when that expired
As I was planning to move to London & travel in Europe I decided to just retain that passport 
Friends then told me they ticked the box and renewed the British anyway
I did hear of cases of people who did that were refused re entry into Australia as their passport was technically invalid
Now we have these cases where people need to keep paying for both having let one lapse
Personally I am happy to be in London and travel regularly to Australia. Probably more so when I retire
Am off to Perth next month btw

[Manuel]

I'm reading about long delays of around 4 hours and potential mass-ag over the summer with this new entry/exit system for non-EU/EEA citizens travelling to Schengen countries. Meant to be in full-effect by April 9.

Anyone on here been caught up in this nonsense yet?

[fraser]

When applying for Aussie passport you have to declare where you're born and which other nationalities you have, also any passport number from UK plus Australian citizenship etc, so as all electronic I suppose it must flag straight away that you're British. 

Sydney would know surely as he would have done it recently, Sven wouldn't cause he's 100% English  

[Manuel]

This is getting big in the news as it starts on 25 Feb, after Sydney brought it to WHO a month ago!
What I don't get is how do they know your a British citizen? Why can't you just meet requirements to travel into UK on your other nationality and forget about the British part? 


 

Because it states in your passport that you were born in the UK, apparently.

[Mex Martillo]

This is getting big in the news as it starts on 25 Feb, after Sydney brought it to WHO a month ago!
What I don't get is how do they know your a British citizen? Why can't you just meet requirements to travel into UK on your other nationality and forget about the British part? 

I was reading some people after 50 years in Australia are having trouble to prove they are British to get a British passport and feel they cannot make a last trip to the UK to see family before health makes travel difficult. Why not just get a visa or whatever and get on with it?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... itizenship

[Far Cough UKunt]

There weren't too many Summarlions when I lived there.

[Cabbige Savage]

Jasnik, what state do you live in? I was in the frozen north Minnesota.

with the Summarlions?

[Jasnik]

CT

[Far Cough UKunt]

Jasnik, what state do you live in? I was in the frozen north Minnesota.

[Jasnik]

correct the US don't allow dual citizenship and you renounce it in the ceremony.
But the uk don't do anything when you do, unlike India who make you give theirs up.  




 

Yep, that's what they told me when I got my green card. I never did get round to applying for citizenship, almost did when 9/11 happened but I just never got round to doing it as I was busy as fuck at work.

So simple anything to do with the US they only see you as American. UK you really can't give up your citizenship so when in England  your a uk citerzen. Hence why.they say having British passports to come into the country. If you turn up without they would then try to check you out if you are British. St other documents etc then let you in, just you might be stuck at the airport for a while. Also if you can bet a ETA or whatever it is called I bet they would let  you in. So it really depends.on how easy you want to make it for yourself.

[fraser]

I was eligible to add an Australian passport to my British one when I lived there from 6 to 20 something 
Was told if I applied for one I had to tick a box saying I wouldn’t renew my British one when it came up for renewal 
Obeyed that and then was told by friends that they ticked the box and then renewed the British. 
Heard anecdotally that some who did that were then refused entry to Australia having used the UK one to travel from Australia 
I now have a British passport & get a tourist visa to visit Australia… going in March (thanks for asking)
Lost my Australian residency during covid as it required me to travel there once every 3 years

So you keep accusing me of being deported but you don't even have residency, while I'm an Australian citizen.. It's the same as your constant homophobic posts... So you're a closet gay who isn't allowed to live in Oz... This has amused me...

[Far Cough UKunt]

Sven, is your tourist visa, plastic?

[Fauxstralian]

I was eligible to add an Australian passport to my British one when I lived there from 6 to 20 something 
Was told if I applied for one I had to tick a box saying I wouldn’t renew my British one when it came up for renewal 
Obeyed that and then was told by friends that they ticked the box and then renewed the British. 
Heard anecdotally that some who did that were then refused entry to Australia having used the UK one to travel from Australia 
I now have a British passport & get a tourist visa to visit Australia… going in March (thanks for asking)
Lost my Australian residency during covid as it required me to travel there once every 3 years

[Far Cough UKunt]

correct the US don't allow dual citizenship and you renounce it in the ceremony.
But the uk don't do anything when you do, unlike India who make you give theirs up.  



 

Yep, that's what they told me when I got my green card. I never did get round to applying for citizenship, almost did when 9/11 happened but I just never got round to doing it as I was busy as fuck at work.

[goose]

I live in the US as a dual citizen. I do have two passports and no issue with that, but does this mwan that i could not visit the UK as a US citizen on my US passport. What would happen if i tried it then? would i be denied entry?

My brother lives in the US, he has US, UK and Italian passport and has had them at least 20 years no problems.

[BerlingtonBertie]

Shithole and gone to the dogs.